I have seen Saleint Features of JAN LOKPAL BILL as salient points they are GOOD
But to convert those Salient points as LAWS ,,they do not map 100 percent without modifications
That is why sri LK Advani told JAN LOKPAL bill is good but has Flaws
so did other people too ,,Iam not suppoter of BJP or anyone but can judge things and read the subject ( I have a MTECH degree and read a lot on the web and Indian constitution as well)
so Dear friends to make LAWS and make it Constutional takes a lots of effort
DR JP narayan ( he is a good man - not connected with any agenda or any political party ) and a lone MLA (NOT even MP) ,,he has worked with a group of people from all across India in 3 round Table conferences and has come up with three drafts and the final draft posted on the LOKSATTA PARTY website wwwdotloksattadotorg
I urge Team Anna to goto this website and read the drafts and information
Debate and think carefully yes we want to make jan lokpal bill ,,but at the same time ,,we have to make it as per constitution and within the framework
so please read the drafts
In the end whether it is TEAM ANNA or lOKSATTA OR OTRHER NGOs ,,people of india we all want a flawless workable LOKPAL bill
so please Team Anna access LOKSATTA WEBSITE and see all the information wwwdotloksattadotorg the website has photos of Round table conference and also lists all the names of the poeple in the round table conferences as well
Re: re:Tean anna plz visit LOKSATTA website as well
by SoBloodyWhat on Aug 27, 2011 02:03 PM
If Advani says the bill is flawed it must be flawed because he is from BJP a party that anna supports -- so I think anna should hold talks with BJP first.
GLOBAL ECONOMY is not fully recovered it has to recover at some point of Time It will not stay as it is
DEAR INDIANS read carefully
ISRO if it gets GSLV rocket right ,,yes dear Indians if it gets right ,,ISRO alone will trigger recruitment in Thousands for its space programms (yes many engineers)
If NUCLEAR POWER SECTOR takes off - it itself will need so many electrical engineers ,,civil ,,mechanical etc
now think of other sectors like Real estate etc
so If CORRUPTION goes ,,so many ills will disappear (May be reservations issue will not be so emotional as before like in 1970s or 1980s ) as Industry will simply ask for skilled or good educated engineers
even inspite of sri Ann Hazre ,,anyone like Dr JP narayan or even some IIT students fast people will support
Only speaker has to be a bit clear and speak in Hindi ,,and all languges very clearly thats all
IT is FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION that stronlgy unites all Indians
India against Corruption websites (main one ) is more than 10 years old (started before CWG ,,2g spectrum scams etc) so they are not new ones
LOKSATTA party since it started was talking about the LOKPAL bill(since 12 -13 years ) DR JP NARAYAN aleady spoke at GOOGLE conf IIms ,,IITS ,,MUMBAI UNIV ,,madras colleges etc so there is a awakeining all across India
Re: Fight against CORRUPTION unites india
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:55 AM
Dr JP Nrayan is invited by Google employees IIts at Madras IIMS at Calcutta ,,Bangalore NRIs in USA etc
he spoke at so many forums and educated so many people about need of Lokayukta and Lokpal bill
even MUMBAI univ where he spoke about 2-3 years ago ,,many have packed the hall to listen
so yes there is a massive awakening and understanding
some media or anchors cannot bend it at the most they may have some guests who have their opinion
First of all Arunadthi Roy speaks to Moaists who indulge in Violence and sympathetic to them
but she issues statements against anna when anna is non violent and fasting
so defintely the flaws are exposed before people of India
some Barkha dutt cannot mask in her studio with some pre invited guests
Re: Fight against CORRUPTION unites india
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:56 AM
Dr JP Nrayan is invited by Google employees IIts at Madras IIMS at Calcutta ,,Bangalore NRIs in USA etc
he spoke at so many forums and educated so many people about need of Lokayukta and Lokpal bill
even MUMBAI univ where he spoke about 2-3 years ago ,,many have packed the hall to listen
so yes there is a massive awakening and understanding
some media or anchors cannot bend it at the most they may have some guests who have their opinion
First of all Arunadthi Roy speaks to Moaists who indulge in Violence and sympathetic to them
but she issues statements against anna when anna is non violent and fasting
so defintely the flaws are exposed before people of India
some Barkha dutt cannot mask in her studio with some pre invited guests
Re: Anna has snatched all masks of cong 's leaders
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:34 AM
so it is CONG vs BJP political scoring match
anna is a tool in this ?
========= if it is better TEAM ANNA keep focused and Iam sure Corruption movement is sustainable as people do not want Corruption at all and are effected very much by it
I feel very bad if some hidden political agendas behind
we PEOPLE OF INDIA ARE SPENDING TIME (FULL TIME) ON THIS ISSUE AND WOULD LIKE CORRUPTION GO (FROM TOP TO BOTTOM)
Re: Re: Anna has snatched all masks of cong 's leaders
by NC on Aug 27, 2011 11:38 AM
there has been some serious problems with the constitution since inception but what has been successfully established by politician is that it is written by one great dalit and now if anybody opposes its fault its anti dalits which is evident from the attempt of cong in case of anna's movement when they say its against constitution if its against then constitution needs some serious rectifications. See nobody say that the protest of maya and dalits against film aarakshan is unconstitutional when one body censor clears it. infact consttn is a tools to save politicians skin and make amendements as per their needs
Re: Re: Re: Anna has snatched all masks of cong 's leaders
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:45 AM
Ok I understand
let us not bring AARAKSHAN into this (yes we will come to that later )
But just focus on JAN LOKPAL Bill alone
who said JANLOKPAL bill is talking about castes or reservations at all ?
It is not - It is against CORRUPTION CORRUPTION is hurting all Indians
so let us be focused and let us confuse Indians too much
let us First get JAN LOKPAL bill be passed (modified whatever )
then made as a law
-============ Then let us debate other issues we have platform Arrkshan is a movie (it is not a debate )
so we can debate that we have many people who will help us in the debate Nandan narayana murthy Tata JP NARAYAN ( as moderators ) not some barkha dutt in TV studio ,,but in a civic hall
we can have all Dalits ,,everyone in the debate participating ,,we can have some politicians too
Re: Re: Re: Anna has snatched all masks of cong 's leaders
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:49 AM
we are 1 trillion plus economy if we renove corruption we will be soon 2 or 3 trillion economy
fOR ECONOMY of that size there may be so many jobs created that ,,may be reservations itself will become redundant (and gone) as Industry will simply ask for Skills (Experience and Education) to fill these jobs
There is very simple solution for breakings Annas fast, Anna should put condition that he will break his fast but at same time all MPs should immly start their fast till the Lokpal takes place in proper manner.
Re: Re: Anna's Fast
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:22 AM
By keeping the focus and goals intact ,,and most importantly your postures the Fight against Corruption remains open and people will keep supporting
Important to not let Negative thoughts Important to keep positive and stay Focused
even if it is not straght away ,,the outcome ,,the sheer support of people of India and galvanisation shows that people are behind this fight
so it will not stop ,,it will continue as all cross sections of India want Corruption go at the top so that discipline sets in at the middle and bottom layers
There are many many Indians who will not hesitate to lead the FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION
Re: Re: Re: Anna's Fast
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:24 AM
Last but the least do not pay attention to Indian media and the shows
just be Focused and be dignified and clear in mind and thought
Let all people on stage desert you(if they have other motives) But people of India will not desert you - anyone standing tall and even left as a single person
Re: Re: Anna's Fast
by NC on Aug 27, 2011 11:24 AM
politicians behavious shld be excellently expose by ms bedi keep it up and do exposing these corrupts.
Re: Re: Re: Anna's Fast
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:27 AM
most NRIS ,,IT professionals ,,may middle class ,,young students ,,even farmers ,,rickshaw pullers ,,auto drivers etc in all parts of India now have a fair understanding of FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION
some Aruna Roy or Arundathi roy or Barkha dutt in NDTV studio new delhi will not be able to change it OK
I can feel the movement on Twitter ,,face book ,,web mobile phone it is alive and well and it will never die until there is a outcome
at the most even if they disrupt anna fast ,,still this will not die down some OTHER indian will come out in a short time Iam 100 percent sure Iam in Australia syd ,,and from here I can feel it every bit of it
it is genuine 100 percent across all religions and regiions and cross sections
Re: Re: Re: Anna's Fast
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:30 AM
I have great respect for smt Kiran Bedi ,,but Iam not sure if imitating politicians still going to help
Most movies (Rajneeti ,,so many films ) alreadu do so people of India do know the stuff
It is the focus on LOKPAL that is important I do not know what agenda the political parties have
But one thing is for sure all people of India would like to see CORRUPTION GO
These corrupt people still have kept their cronies in Team Anna and one by one they will start coming out. Each and every develment is being reported to Corrupt Govt and shortly we will see more faces who have put up masks. Please Indians, only trust two real patriots of TEAM ANNA- Kejriwal ji and K Bedi ji. Don't believe blindly on others . This movement will be weakened and broken by these traitors in Team Anna. Of course, the final word to be believed is only Anna ji. Support Big Cause and Beware of many traitors in Team Anna.
Re: Corrupt Parliamentarians will continue to dupe Indians
by BharatNirman on Aug 27, 2011 11:00 AM
Are we ready to get one more DHOKA from Govt today. They will never pass the resolution in favour of Janlokpal.
Re: Re: Corrupt Parliamentarians will continue to dupe Indians
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:06 AM
I think there is a change and some attitude from GOVT
I think GOVT does realise the merits
It is Give and Take Janlokpal bill will take shape as sri Advani and some other MPS have pointed its salient features are good ,,but as laws still flaws have to be tightened
refer to wwwdotloksattadotorg where dr JP narayan HAS spent three round table conferences for hours with all ex supreme court judges ,,high court judges and civil scoiety
You can down load the PDF and read it for yourself
be optimistic ,,and stay united at the same time practical we can get the JAN LOKPAL bill approved with some changes and modifications and it will help CURB CORRUPTION
Remember our goal is CURB Corruption and JAN LOKPAL HAS TO be a weapon
Re: One More Paid Article
by rama anne on Aug 27, 2011 11:13 AM
As mr Murthy (infosys) has rightly pointed out western media is always a bit foxy in the sense
they continue to highlight soft issues against India (caste ) sometimes
some times POVERTY (rich vs poor divide)
also NDTV refer to some people on the show Darryl amppere has remarked why is India spending so much on defense and space etc ?
so yes ,, a meek Inda very welcome a rising India (not liked by them ) so we must realize the context and the best way is
we Indians must stay united and have strong GOVT with good policies and Corruption free
so my take is
BEST FORM OF OFFENSE IS BEST FORM OF DEFENSE IN INDIAS CASE IT IS MORE APPLICABLE
So what does this idiot want. A medal. Arre Gadhe go out and talk directly to the people. Why hide behind your 205 MP's and the protection of the speaker. Don't you have any guts. First of all this idiot never even comes in parliament where he is protected by his psychophantic congress MP's and the speaker. So, he will never face any tough questions which he will have to answer. Even here this idiot rarely comes. And today is a day where he should have the guts to go face the people of India. On this day the idiot deems he must come to parliament and acts like its a big deal. Arre Gadhe you should be in parliament every day during session. You are supposed to be an important leader of your party. Instead you avoid even parliament which will protect you. And on these important events which our country is witnessing you don't have the guts to go face the people. What kind of a leader are you. A poor excuse of a poor excuse of a leader.