i feel corruption should be attacked from both ends. On the one side we should punish the corrupt and Jan Lok Pal Bill is a step in that direction.
On the other hand, we must reward whistleblowers. Whistleblowers who go to Lok pal with substantial evidence of corruption (whether by a politician or a bureaucrat or a judge) should be enetitled to claim a percentage of the penalty levied on the corrupt person by the Lok Pal alongwith a reward of 10% of the money / property confiscated. Alternately, the whistleblower can ask that the money be donated to his desginated charity. That will act as an incentive for people to take advantage of the institution of Lok Pal to the fullest.
The approach should be of carrot and stick rather than just the threat of punishment. Somehow, unscrupulous people have a habit of bypassing the law (either by subverting it or by outsourcing the dirty work) because punishment depends on evidence. Unless you give incentive to people to collect evidence (other than just public service) Lok Pal Bill may yet prove to be a case of "good law, bad implementation".
Re: Attack corruption from both ends.
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 14, 2011 01:09 PM
Well Said. Also a whistle blower's protection act is badly required.
Re: Re: Attack corruption from both ends.
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 14, 2011 02:38 PM
I agree. The Whistleblower Protection Bill under consideration by the government is fraught with lot of loopholes. It's more for protecting the corrupt from the whistleblower than the other way round. How many agitations this country needs to force the government to govern?
we have to bring transparancy and give training to govt employee. just like we do private company. why employee and manager of TATA are honest and work hard and doing any job. Its work environment. same we have to create for govt and neta's office too. make their transaction open. Most importantly dont let govt and neta have all the control of money. most of money we should give directly to company like TATA, Reliance. Murthy to run projects for development. dont let govt has any control. once the control goes away. govt will have no power to loot money.
Re: Lokpal bill alone cant help.
by Amit on Apr 14, 2011 11:59 AM
tata or privaTE co's they have internal comtrol and any corruption means the azz*hole gets kicked out ...but in govt they get promoted and case is not even allowed to be filed so need for lokpal .
no training will stop corruption only strong punishment and seizure of property can.
From the rampant manner in which the DMK- Congress alliance in TN has misused the Power to bribe the people of TN to purchase their votes from the 2G Scam loot, has once gain made it a crying need of the hour to bring about changes in the Electoral Representation of the People's Act 1952 along with Lokpal Bill to curb the use of Money power to win elections by hook or crook.
Also, Congress leaders like, Sonia (Mr. Chidambram) owe an explanation to the people how on earth they have aligned with Coruupt and scam riddled DMK both at the centre and state and wooing the TN electorate with Bait of Money and are sitting Lokpal to Draft Anti- Corruption Bill.
Even the CEC has admitted that DMK was the pricipal violator of the Election code of Conduct by wantonly distributing the Money in crores to the electorate and had to undergo sleepless nights to keep a close check on the DMK members and party activists during the run up to the elections. Congress was looking the otherway when its alliance partner DMK was embroiled in all these unsavoury acts.
So, when the politicians from Congress,BJP and other parties showed no courage and conviction to pass the Lokpal Act for the last 42 years, what on earth gives them and other misguided social activists the moral right to criticise and find fault with Civil Society and shri. Anna for having shown the gumption to harness the support of soverign people to get the much needed bill drafted.They must instead co-operate with Anna.
Re: Electoral Reforms Highly Due
by Rahul Miano on Apr 14, 2011 12:30 PM
As the Campaign for strong anti corruption act is getting stronger and groundswell support with each passing day, the office bearers and polticians of some parties with vested interest are getting jiterry and are trying their level best to divide, demoralise and sow seeds of confusion among the people and civil society to defeat a noble cause with their loose motivated statements and observation in Print and TV media,aided by some paid journos and misguided social activist.
These vested and misguided sections of the scoiety should know that this is well thought people's movement guided by Anna Hazre and Civil Society against corruption and sacm in Public sphere of activities, where public money is swindled by Public figures thru corruption and scams is no more acceptable to the people. This people's movement to cleanse public affairs will not falter nor will loose steam.
Corruption will be prevented only if Indians break free like USSR. USSR republics are relatively free from corruption and prospering rapidly (doingbusiness . org ranks)
Georgia - 12, Estonia - 17, Lithuania - 23 Latvia - 24, Kyrgyzstan - 44, Armenia - 48, Azerbaijan - 54, Kazakhstan - 59, Belarus - 68, Moldova - 90, Russia - 123, . . INDIA - 134 . Tajikistan - 139, Ukraine - 145, Uzbekistan - 150.
Seeking a Lokpal legislation is a treatment for the symptoms of corruption.
The real disease of corruption emanates from the Electoral System we have adopted.
Corruption in our system arises at the Central, State, City and District level essentially because the Executive Head is critically dependent on crucial support of elected members at various levels to protect his or her position as also get legislation thru.
This critical support is something for which the support providers extract maximum mileage by way of indiscriminate corruption and criminalisation. This critical support also ensures for the support providers the comfort of never being caught by the law enforcers - because if anything is done which goes against their interests then they have the liberty to withdraw support and ensure the downfall of the executive.
This is the crucial area needing reform which has spawned huge corruption in our system.
Where there is power and money - criminals, mafias, bettors, bookies - all, try level-best to fix the process to their favour by hook and crook. That hurts not only development, but also national security. It is heartening that 64 years of freedom of India is less likely to be endangered by powers inimical to India, if we make sincere efforts in instilling honesty,talent and competence into our political system. Another important thing, parties should stop dividing Indians on religious,caste,region,language,sex issues in order to carve out vote banks through reservations because, that challages India's integrity and security. Lage raho in the right direction.
China prospered without India's dummy democracy/caste system. Indians are brainwashed to believe that (voting in elections == democracy) and a solution to all problems.
Re: if the congress wants clean leaders
by victor on Apr 14, 2011 09:50 AM
u r right. They simply have to be honest. I cannot understand as to why they find it difficult.
Re: if the congress wants clean leaders
by Balan Iyer on Apr 14, 2011 10:18 AM
They do not want!Remember passing of Prevention Of Corruption(Amend ment) Bill,2008,which calls for taking Permission of Government before attaching the Properties of any elected MP or MLA or Sr Bureau crats.All the elected Politicians of different hues and colours supp orted it and the Media,the worst culprit,did not make any noise.
in absence of judicial reforms nothing is going to workout. if prosecution is going to take decades, the corrupt and the rowdies who remain accused can still contest the elections as their crime will remain unproven. so what reforms r we talking about.
