Bharat Mata is not a symbol of secularism. In fact, it is against one minoirity religion. Gandhi would not have put the photo of Bharat mata. Is this the reason why no Muslim and Christs joined this ant-corruption movement?
If Hazare is honest, why he feels shy/fear to support Modi Ji and Nitish ji?
Is the actual interest of these people a publicity and becoming Presidents and VCs? Time only tell...
Re: @charlie
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 02:07 PM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @charlie by charlie brown (View MyPage) on Apr 11, 2011 02:05 PM classic example is graham staines. In a remote district in orissa, the lepers were existing as a banned community by ur religious people. An australian, Graham staines and his family served them with true missionary zeal. But, due to some fanatics, he and his 2 sons got killed. During such missionary activities, people should hv got attracted towards the services rendered by these selfless people, which they failed to see in their respective religion and only then they should hv converted. This is same everywhere
Re: Re: Re: @charlie
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 02:22 PM
what i want to prove is, convertion for money could not have happened. Therefore your claims becomes void-abinitio. Assuming if that has happened, there is always reconversion to one's original faith. It that is happening today? No. therefore it is spiritual thirst that leads to conversion and definitely it is not money or anything else
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @charlie
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 02:30 PM
Pls read my answer carefully. I said ur claim is void ab initio. which means that ever since conversion took place, it was'nt due to money. It is only becoz their spiritual thirst was quenched.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @charlie
by Marathi Indian on Apr 11, 2011 02:33 PM
Agree people whoconverted their spiritualthirst arecristian. I am asking "who are all converted till today for money or food are notcristians?
Re: Re: @charlie
by Bharath on Apr 11, 2011 02:18 PM
It was a fight between two community.. Not two religious. Church has the unmatched capacity to turn all events in its favour.... as they did it in iraq ..
I challenge. Let these Hazare, Ramdev etc. stand in elections snd see how many votes they can get? I am sure they lose deposits. There are two reasons for this.
a) In a democracy 90% public who makes politicians are equally corrupt.
b) These people are just academicians who does not know the tactics involved in ruling the corrupt public. To rule corrupt and rough mass, only another rough leader is required. To cut a diamond, you need another diamond. Just a soft stone is not sufficient!!
Re: It is a waste publicity stunt.
by yadlapalli rao on Apr 11, 2011 01:53 PM
We can Find NArendra Modi in it . To get diamond property He should be dare enough to Loose the PM or CM position
Re: It is a waste publicity stunt.
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 01:51 PM
u have forgotten swami agnivesh, who once stood in the election and was a serving Minister.
People elected him becoz, he was secular in his deeds
Re: Re: Re: It is a waste publicity stunt.
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 02:27 PM
he was a MLA in haryana who served as a State Minister for Education from 1979 to 1982
Government should give free news paper to each home... gov. can easily adopt this since not much money required...
And there should be law for reading news paper daily especially Woman... This is the best way to learn things and within 2 years there will not be corruption, rapee etc..
Re: @charlie
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 01:46 PM
i do agree with u. But when people volunteer for conversion, where is the question of forcible conversion?
Re: Re: Re: Re: @charlie
by Marathi Indian on Apr 11, 2011 01:51 PM
Let them pray. He will be happy that differenreligion peoplealso praying him not forsomerice or money.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @charlie
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 01:56 PM
Urs is a fake accusation. 1st learn that being a christian / muslim does'nt mean that he is an anti-national. No one converts for money. If the spirtual thirst is quenched elsewhere only then conversion happens. If for Money and food conversion happens, it amounts to forcible conversion. But forcible conversion is nothing but "no conversion" becoz reconversion to their original faith is always possible.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @charlie
by charlie brown on Apr 11, 2011 02:05 PM
classic example is graham staines. In a remote district in orissa, the lepers were existing as a banned community by ur religious people. An australian, Graham staines and his family served them with true missionary zeal. But, due to some fanatics, he and his 2 sons got killed. During such missionary activities, people should hv got attracted towards the services rendered by these selfless people, which they failed to see in their respective religion and only then they should hv converted. This is same everywhere
I totally support Anna crusade against corruption but i would like to ask his supporters who joined him at jantar mantar is corruption only in politics i remember noticing there that the Delhi Vyapar sangh extending support but everybody knows that traders are one of the biggest generators of black money by selling without bill. Alongwith fighting corruption in politics we should also fight corruption in our daily life every small and big shopkeeper wants to cheat on sales tax. Every doctor in India will not give u serial numbered reciept another major block in generation of black money in India. people buying property undervalue the property in the sale deed to cheat on taxes.all salary people give inflated house rent recipts to cheat on tax. I noticed many people saying that they should get their rights as they are paying taxes what is this logic does that mean that people not paying tax which is the mojority of the poor people do not have any rights
Re: Re: NIETHER ANNA ,AGNIVESH OR BABA RAMDEV WON;IT IS AAM ADMIs
by sixsigma on Apr 11, 2011 01:56 PM
no kapil bhai, looks like he is a Sonia relative
