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On human rights, US shouldn't lecture us: China


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tenzink tserign
USA IS BETTER THEN CHINA FOR INDIA AND WORLD...
by tenzink tserign on Apr 12, 2011 10:42 PM

looking past history of china and its foreign policy has always troubled many nations including India.Chinese communist ideology backed with the lust to become world power will cost india heavily.this might also come at cost of losing many states and foreign influence.USA is still our partner and is more reliable then chinese for the development of India. China has a worst human rights and it cant even telecast a mere report on protest of chinese mine workers.no question about tibet and tibet is a beautiful jail surrounded by the CCTV CAMERAS EVERYWHERE,no report of protest in front of Tiannamen square in beijing. SEE ABOVE PICTURES, CHINESE PROTESTORS STANDING IN FRONT OF WHITE HOUSE AND PROTESTING THE US GOVT. IN ITS SOIL.YOU CAN MAKE A CLEAR DIFFERENCE FROM THIS PICTURE ABOUT RIGHTS AND FREEDOM.

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E darwin
kris-Re: India must aim
by E darwin on Apr 12, 2011 07:15 AM

china has been roped in by trade by videshi which is bigger than from india-ASEAN,
chances are china has no way to get out of that hold.
infact, videshis want to route chinese products through them by retail, etc. in desh.

Example, a laptop with videshi OS and parts from china sold in India.

who says angrez/videshi power has reduced, they are right there in action. spying the NET, communication,transports, soliciting ideas, putting them to their use. All in name of ending terror.

Example-
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BBC’s World Challenge: Nominations open for projects or small businesses at grassroots level
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many countries from that region doing it.

let the poachers hunt for money and then go there to hunt the poachers and save the wildlife, sounds like a game.
Poacher are those whose natural means of survival are eroded (dependence, population rise) and have stopped living natural tribal life.

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Kris Kane
India must aim
by Kris Kane on Apr 12, 2011 07:00 AM  | Hide replies

To beat China, US and entire middle east by the strength of her own civilization.

We must defeat the west and east combined on all fronts - culturally, military and economic - by an amalgamation of Spirituality and Science.


This can not be accomplished by copying or blindly imitating the west..

This is only possible when we have the highest Human Development Index in the entire world.

HDI is not measured just by each individual and family having food, clothing, shelter.. it must be redefined to incorporate the spiritual component into it.

But to do that, we have to assess reality as it is - we must get rid of PC and szckularism - that encourages people to lie, be dishonest and morally weak.

One that mandates the concept of an unfair society where there are two sets of rules - one for hzcindus and another for the govt, preferred religious "minorities".

First reassess your opponents CORRECTLY and learn what their strengths and weaknesses are..

India is blessed with the greatest spiritualists (adi shankzara, sai baba, et al) and greatest rationalist (gotama buddzha) of this era..

Learn from them and incorporate a new spiritual dimension to public policy and governance..

The quality of Indian citizens would be transformed significantly.

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E darwin
Re: India must aim
by E darwin on Apr 12, 2011 07:10 AM
china has been roped in by trade by videshi which is bigger than india,
chance are china has no way to get out of that hold.
infact videshis want to route chinese products through them by retail, etc.
Example, a laptop with videshi OS and parts from china sold in India.

who says angrez/videshi power has reduced, they are right there in action. spying the NET, soliciting ideas, putting them to their use.
example-
"
BBC’s World Challenge: Nominations open for projects or small businesses at grassroots level
"
many countries from that region doing it.

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E darwin
let us play this game, if Jesus is Hindu then Ganesh is Xtian
by E darwin on Apr 12, 2011 06:34 AM  | Hide replies

wibas wibas,
Why not put up Ganesh and bhagwat Gita in church. None of the missionaries give Gita instead of bible or put ganesha in church or give ganesha instead of cross.

We cannot double play different games in different countries. Jolie and Pitt pick mosleem countries for charities because children they adopt and chrisitnize are mostly from Mosleem background of africa who used to be shamans before.

they slaves that were bought to usa and Americas were xtianized were all mosleem and they were shamans before that.

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Facts and grandest truths of the world
by wibas wibas

1. There is no word for religion in Bhagavad Gita.
2. Gautama Buddha has preached what he self-realized, but he never wanted a different religion.
3. Jesus Christ doesn't belong to any religion, he is very much yogi in Hindu religion and yet son of god for christian.
4. Two years before leaving his body (Mahasamidhi), Shridi Saibaba cried over his devotees to tell him whether he was Hindu or Muslim.
5. Ramakrishna Paramahansa declared - hindus call it Jal, while muslims call it Pani.

What separates the rest of us from Shridi Saibaba,Jesus,Ramakrishna,GuruNanak,Buddha and great teachers of world is ignorance (aGynan), and so we see difference in religions, difference in religious theories, differences in spirtuality and all..
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E darwin
Re: let us play this game, if Jesus is Hindu then Ganesh is Xtian
by E darwin on Apr 12, 2011 06:44 AM
Middle-eastern religion is deeply intolerant at core and tactics, though not in interactions.
there are more chance of Jesus and mecca and jJewish signs in Hodoo houses. but not vice-versa in that big proportions.

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E darwin
Re: let us play this game, if Jesus is Hindu then Ganesh is Xtian
by E darwin on Apr 12, 2011 06:38 AM
are asians outside of middle-east so naive.

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Kris Kane
Politics of world powers
by Kris Kane on Apr 12, 2011 03:42 AM  | Hide replies

Just like the morally corrupt, greedy antinationals use the bogey of "szxickularism" to beat up Indian nationalists... we got US trying to beat up China using the bogey of "human rights".

This is nothing but typical EUROCENTRIC judeo-chzxtian judgemental mentality - one that loudly mocks and judges harshly every single non-white, non-judeoczxhristian cultures around the world... yet, scoffs when fingers are pointed at them.

Note that not even friendly countries like Japan are spared till they totally and wholeheartedly embrace czxhristianity.. the judgement and nagging will continue by the self obsessed, white nations..

China is judged harshly for human rights.. same/worse acts done in US-ally Bolivia, easily overlooked.

Japan is judged morally for "whale hunting".. on a side note, a similar practice done by norwegians and Swedish fishermen is overlooked by the same white nations.

India (mostly due to homegrown antinationalist jaychand-ish propaganda by NDTV & co) on ill treatment of minorities and gujarat riots.. also on untouchability, sati, caste system, yada yada..

Myanmar for lack of democracy and subordination to china.. yet same situation is virulently encouraged in pzkistan because its a pro-US puppet regime.

Laos and vietnam for their poverty... yet, same/worse poverty and hunger in latin america is just overlooked because they r chzristian countries.

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E darwin
Re: Politics of world powers
by E darwin on Apr 12, 2011 06:38 AM
are asians outside of middle-east so naive.

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Rk Sharma
Indians should learn to accept realty
by Rk Sharma on Apr 12, 2011 03:19 AM  | Hide replies

My friends, nobody tells truth about US, it is open and sweet jail, Indians don't tell truth when come to India. what is freedom in this country, these are polite on face but when they will backstab you nobody knows, so much of discrimination happens, in India even a common labor has mind to apply to judge the context, here it is all robotic, nobody has brain to understand things with his/her own mind. I use to hate Indians for some things like jealousy, not helping each other in jobs, etc when i came intially to USA but with years i learned what americans are in reality. I remember a wise Indian told me wait and than form opinion when i said to him, wow white girls are so polite, they talk so sweetly, don't ask those degrees well settlement etc which i see in india, After years i realized that the wise old man was right, it is all rules and rules and rules and living with robots, These people whole life search for love, means difficult to explain what this country is all about, India is far better inspite of problems. I use to hear from South Indians well in USA we are respected, my foot, all are slaves in companies, yes i agree it is difficult to work under Indian who is slave of American boss, but it is not easy with Americans either.

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sanjay
Re: Indians should learn to accept realty
by sanjay on Apr 12, 2011 12:02 PM
My friend the same things happen in India also , when you work in Pvt Companies the most important thing to survive is your,language regionalism,religion,casteism, nepotism , even if you are less than average you can survive on these aspects, then what merotocracy you are talking about, one thing I observed in your writing is that it seems that you are averse to rules, America is created by Discpline and rules and no like Indians who break even the laws of the land and so all illegal activities to earn life through short-cuts, morever you are getting confused with Freedom with Lethargic life style and prefer the later.

And finally , even in India we find sadistic , prejudiced people as Bosses .

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DarthVader
Re: Indians should learn to accept realty
by DarthVader on Apr 12, 2011 06:53 AM
No one is forcing you to stay in the US of A. If it so bad as you feel it is, you are free to leave any time you want. And that by the way is also freedom!!!

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Kris Kane
Re: Re: Indians should learn to accept realty
by Kris Kane on Apr 12, 2011 07:03 AM
typical Americn r e d neck argument here.. give the man some room to express his thoughts and take criticism positively.. dont just S H U T him up by saying "go back to India because you dared criticize USA".. what r you ? some K K K white trash from alabama ? or worse.. a convzerted xztian slve of his ?

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Loan Shark
Re: Re: Re: Indians should learn to accept realty
by Loan Shark on Apr 12, 2011 06:06 PM
criticizing USA to the core is freedom and continuing to stay in USA despite all its problems when you have a choice to return to India is pure hypocrisy


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Loan Shark
Re: Re: Indians should learn to accept realty
by Loan Shark on Apr 12, 2011 06:08 PM
the truth is that many people will be willing to stand on their head for a month outside the US consulate and try every possible gimmick to secure an entry into the US

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Rk Sharma
Indians should learn to accept realty
by Rk Sharma on Apr 12, 2011 03:19 AM  | Hide replies

My friends, nobody tells truth about US, it is open and sweet jail, Indians don't tell truth when come to India. what is freedom in this country, these are polite on face but when they will backstab you nobody knows, so much of discrimination happens, in India even a common labor has mind to apply to judge the context, here it is all robotic, nobody has brain to understand things with his/her own mind. I use to hate Indians for some things like jealousy, not helping each other in jobs, etc when i came intially to USA but with years i learned what americans are in reality. I remember a wise Indian told me wait and than form opinion when i said to him, wow white girls are so polite, they talk so sweetly, don't ask those degrees well settlement etc which i see in india, After years i realized that the wise old man was right, it is all rules and rules and rules and living with robots, These people whole life search for love, means difficult to explain what this country is all about, India is far better inspite of problems. I use to hear from South Indians well in USA we are respected, my foot, all are slaves in companies, yes i agree it is difficult to work under Indian who is slave of American boss, but it is not easy with Americans either.

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Rk Sharma
Re: Indians should learn to accept realty
by Rk Sharma on Apr 12, 2011 03:23 AM
If Anna somehow gets this Lokpal bill passed, i feel in 5 years time, india will have some system and if that system delivers little bit, people will be happy. Somehow if India politicians get simple things like, keep good air, maintain greenery, control population, healthcare, police should stay within means, and system should have alteast some accountability instead of full compromise on every and everything on earth, even 10% improvement will be good.

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prabhat mohanty
Re: Re: Indians should learn to accept realty
by prabhat mohanty on Apr 12, 2011 07:07 AM
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We have IPC. It has not prevented the crime.

We have laws, judiciary and Jail. Yet they are no deterrant to crimes.

So more than bills and laws, we need societal and attitudinal change.

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