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Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:28 AM classification of castes was done in terms of work people used to do during aryan times. over period of time brahmins in lust for control of mney and power started discriminating. they created absurd stories which are tarnishing the image of religion now. no wonder why people find us amusing    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:29 AM name atleast one famous aryan (except hitler of course)!!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: Be true by Jai Babu on Apr 05, 2011 11:28 AM Jon Krakauer : " I don't know what God is, or I don't know if God even exists, although I find people praying in times of great fear, or despair, or astonishment at a display of unexpected beauty. There are some 10,000 religious sects — each with its own cosmology, each with its own answer for the meaning of life and death. Most assert that the other 9,999 not only have it completely wrong but are instruments of evil, besides. None of the 10,000 has yet persuaded me to make the requisite leap of faith. In the absence of conviction, I've come to terms with the fact that uncertainty is an inescapable corollary of life. An abundance of mystery is simply part of the bargain — which doesn't strike me as something to lament." Dont be a slave to any ISMs and dogma. Free will & Free thought are our most precious possessions.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Be true by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:26 AM is communism against eslam or xtianity???    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Be true by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:29 AM its for all and against all religions    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Be true by Jai Babu on Apr 05, 2011 11:28 AM Jon Krakauer : " I don't know what God is, or I don't know if God even exists, although I find people praying in times of great fear, or despair, or astonishment at a display of unexpected beauty. There are some 10,000 religious sects — each with its own cosmology, each with its own answer for the meaning of life and death. Most assert that the other 9,999 not only have it completely wrong but are instruments of evil, besides. None of the 10,000 has yet persuaded me to make the requisite leap of faith. In the absence of conviction, I've come to terms with the fact that uncertainty is an inescapable corollary of life. An abundance of mystery is simply part of the bargain — which doesn't strike me as something to lament." Dont be a slave to any ISMs and dogma. Free will & Free thought are our most precious possessions.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Be true by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:31 AM Yes, communists do not believeIn anyReligiousDogmas. TheReligionists are in fact against theCommunists. That was one reason for the breakup of USSR with the active support of VaticanAndYankees. IndianCommunists support someReligionsGroups for narrow electoralGains. I was also a Communist but I am apolitical now.    Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:21 AM without fraudulentCONversion and wild promises, how else can a single man religion become billion plus!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:23 AM our gods are only for india and nepal.... when people all across the world have rejected our faith and accepted theirs then there will be some larger reason    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:26 AM mamu, we do not have the equivalent of MissionaryBeggars and SwordHoldingMullahs to convrt others. Despite nearly 900 years of rule by the IslamicInvaders and EuropeanChristianColonizers, nearly 85% of Indians are still following the nativeReligions. That itself is proof of the inherent strength of our culture and civilization.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Jai Babu on Apr 05, 2011 11:36 AM Any day, a multi-faith, multi-cultural liberal society is superior to any exclusivist religion which claims to have the only "TRUE" God and know the absolute Truth.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:24 AM virgns???? heaven???? conventSchools??? 4Wives in this life and 72 in afterlife???? gardenOfEden????    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:20 AM where do we stand on this... conversion is not a smal decision that can be made easily. that splits families but still people are converting in large numbers. we can affliate this and protect our hypocrisy by saying rice bags but we know the facts and at the rate which influential and common men are shedding away from the stories they find amusing. either they are thinking right or we are thinking wrong    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:23 AM I have not seen the kind of convrsion you are talking about; there may be a few convrsions here or there for some personal reasons like marriages, etc. And what exactly is the motive of those who make a career out of convrsion business? Are they out to do charity or do they have some ulterior motives?    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:25 AM conversion is see is a personal choice of truth. if you dont find truth in the religion that u folow, u just quit. ours has lots of stories. we must stop that    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:27 AM There is no "truth" in anyReligion. Stop bluffing. I do not believe in the dogmasOf anyReligion nor do I belive in anyGod.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:26 AM fables???? then what about religions??? r they history and science books????    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:23 AM the initialCONversions were all violent you fool!!!! there is NO CHOICE there!!!! that applies to both xtianityAndIslam, the only 2 religions which are hellBent on givingHeaven to its followers!!!! and of course, who doesnt love 4Wives in this life and aBrothel in afterlife!!!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:23 AM ha ha what bout the conversions now. just a fortnight ago a whole street near my area converted.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:24 AM there is never a shortage of fools!!!! aint it so????    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:26 AM i know but once again... shedding something is not a small thing dear... it needs lots of courage. when peopel are doing it then just see how bad our belief is. the problem is not with religion but the stories our ancestors cook up and we cook up in name of religion Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:17 AM Brahmins are the key problems. they created these stories for lust of power and took help of kshatriyas to keep generating money for them. even today if you meet any prist, all that he will have in mind will be money. there are very rare good brahmins left    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:19 AM there are no brahmins in other religions but still dalits are there!!! how come????    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by sai bhavani on Apr 06, 2011 09:52 AM WHEN SOME PERSON IS GOOD IN CHARACTER, TRYING TO DO SOME GOOD TO PEOPLE (GENERAL PUBLIC) NATURALLY ANYBODY CAN HELP AND MAKE THE PERSON KNOWN TO ALL GIVING TO HIS OPINION PRIORITY. FOR THAT NO NEED OF BRAHMIN OR OTHER COMMUNITY IS NECESSARY. JUST THINK LOYAL UNNECESSARILY DO NOT BLAME BRAHMINS OR ANYOTHER CASTE PEOPLE. THAT WILL CREAE SOME OTHER PROBLEM.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:18 AM loyalroyal, even JLNehru was a rottenKashmiriBrahmin. How come you believeIn the nonsesnes he has written??    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:19 AM Brhmns think of money only but the PriestlyClass of some otherReligions think of banging the rearEnd of youngBoys!!    Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: @loyalroyal - bharatEkKhoj by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:14 AM brother bak bak... learn to read or listen or hear with open mind. we and our ancestors have always had this disease to close ears and eyes when something against us is spoken.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal - bharatEkKhoj by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:16 AM r u referring to his endorsement of the aryanInvasionTheory???? or that dalits were there even before the advent ofIslam???    Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:08 AM communism    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:11 AM hahahahahahahahahaha........all the isms are more or less extinct now except a few countries!!!! even china has shunned its communist fiscal ideology and has adopted a capitalist one!!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:14 AM with a larger population then ours its it is the communism which is taking china to great heights.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:17 AM idiot, china has shunned communism long back!!!!! read more about deng xiaoping and his capitalist approaches!!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Jai Babu on Apr 05, 2011 11:12 AM Communism is an Orwellian nightmare characterized by a policy of control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth and manipulation of the past! Free thought and ideas are stifled while the arts, sciences, culture are all subject to censure. Sadly, Communism & Free thought are anathema to each other! George Orwell stated that rhetoric was a smokescreen intended to conceal the truth on the ground. He wrote that "political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." While 1984 may have modelled on the Soviet Union, it was also about the importance of truth and liberty and the barbarous influence of any regime that treats them as malleable and manipulable. China is one such country today.    Forward   |   Report abuse
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Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:15 AM llesssbian thoughts and mentality    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal by Jai Babu on Apr 05, 2011 11:20 AM BTW, Is1am also has many of the Orwellian characteristics that I have mentioned above. That is precisely there is slavish deference to some so called divine B00k written centuries ago with no relevance to life, science or technology as they exist today. Here A11ah is Big Brother!    Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:04 AM history made simple.... please checkout "bharat ek khoj" and see how castism and religion were created in india. i am reffering it because its easy to understand    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:05 AM there are about 150 sects (apart from theCastes) in eslam and about 380000 sects inChristianity!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:07 AM It doesnt matter, the presence of these sects isnt stopping people from large scale convertions    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:09 AM so, u r saying the castesAndSects in those religions is perfectly alright and inHinduism its wrong!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:04 AM youtube has lots of videos...it was broadcasted in doordarshan    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:06 AM May be you should go to the web of PostiveAtheism also to know about the desertReligions and how they were spread!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:09 AM i know history.. it might be a true religion so its growing. why then even rich and influential people change their faiths    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india?? by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:16 AM There are many reasons for convrsions. MJ convrtd at the fagend of his life as he was not satisfied with molesting all those youngboys on planet earth. ChanderMoahn and AnuradhaBali convrtd for gettingMarried and sent 3Ts thru SMS when they were no more interested in each other............deathBedConvrsions are another common factor all over the world....... Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:06 AM from when did nehru become the epitome of truth????    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:08 AM leave it... go to some good websites and look out for this information.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india???? by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:08 AM Nehru was a hypocrite who tried to please every and ended up displeasing every one. Ultimately he was royally screwed by the Chinkis for hisf00lishness.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india?? by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:11 AM he has talked trash!!!!! Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @loyalroyal - foreigners and unifying india?? by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:10 AM i saw the videos and they are true. its not nehru that u need to see but the content which is true. see vedic culture, see castes born etc Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: @ loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:06 AM Natives were already divided and always lived in small kingdoms.. kings like the great ashoka, akbar, marathas tried to bring all of them under one flag... finally officially it was britishers which defined permanent boundaries    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:12 AM They could not have "defined permanent boundaries" if there was no underlying unity among the natives. AdiShankara had established his FourMaths at four parts of India. Btw they played the dirtiest trick when they were leaving. CyrilRadcliff drew the boundaries sitting in Delhi fogetting the ground realities. It was theCrookedChristianColonizers who drew a permanent wedge between the HindusAndMuslims inIndia. They had co-existed together for nearly 600 years before the arrival of theEuropeanColonizers (though there were a few skirmishes in between).    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:08 AM diversity is what makes life interesting and not monotonous rambling of the sameAbrahamicShit!!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:12 AM conversion is not the other way around. if it was intresting it wud have been two way conversions. Look at the rate of conversions and look at the rate at which poeple are loosing faith. Many are taking up atheism and others are simply changing    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:14 AM we are not talking about atheism here butCONverting from one religion to another in search of the elusive TRUTH!!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: @ loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:01 AM Good to hear... but i dont think its right to still live in stone age. The issue is about fake godmen. conversion splits families but still people convert. Its not just for fun or money but because they find their religion false. It has been because of insane stories and fake godmen. i am not a convert so it doesnt matter to me. Neighther i support my own religion. its a personal choice.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by Santosh on Apr 05, 2011 11:04 AM >>>>>because they find their religion false>>>>>then whichReligion do you find "true"???    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:04 AM hahahahahahahahahaha.....what truth did theCONverts find in other religions which they didnt find in their religion??? virgns??? or convent schools????    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: @ loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:00 AM there's something called stockholm syndrome which loyalroyal is suffering from profusely!!!!! that syndrome is where the victims hail the kidnappersAndRapists for their grace and mercy by sparing them alive!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by loyalroyal on Apr 05, 2011 11:03 AM we too have a good history my boy... we can say that the western people civilized us. so be grateful    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: @ loyalroyal by bak bak on Apr 05, 2011 11:04 AM hahahahahahahahaha.....everyone was not an uncivilized brute like u!!!!!    Forward   |   Report abuse