So US is successfully drag India into a unwanted conflict... By making China engage along side Indian borders in the Himalayas, the US of A is going to ease the military pressure on their allies i.e, Japan, SKorea and Vietnam. This will also help Pakistan to work closely with China against India. Perhas the Russians also must be smiling and winking at China.
India has dragged yet another unwanted military problem on its own by siding with USA. The current congress and MMS govt is responsible for this. Definitely Indian look east policy has failed miserably.
One should learn from MMS govt to earn more enemies.
Re: US gameplan in the region is working!
by Ramesh on Nov 02, 2010 06:38 PM
Renuk,
Think you are reversing the argument here. It is the Chinese who shall find their gameplan thawrted and their computations going awry. It is China which made prespostrous claim on the whole sea defying international law. It is Chinese who occupied Tibet and now have thursted into POK. It is Chinese who grabbed Aksai China and Sinkiang.
The concerted response of democracies in the Asian region to uphold international law and disable Chinese might from according their mumbo-jumbo historical interpretations forceful legitimacy in the age-old colonial style of expansion.
Chinese will undoubtedly seek to expand the intensity as well as zone of conflict to see whether the new found unity shall hold. They may not have factored consensus within our polity for an Indian inclusion to security architecture to safeguard international law.
This has upset their calculations and now they seek to deter India. They do not realise that such threats shall be channelised by India to create opportunities for Indian development efforts towards economic emancipation of the masses and thereby secure India.
The concern for us ought to be how to make Indian gameplan to deter all threats via economic development would work.
Re: Re: US gameplan in the region is working!
by Renuk on Nov 03, 2010 03:23 PM
You got it wrong Ramesh....
The USA has successfully drawn Chinese attention away from its ALLIES in the Pacific, read as , Japan, SKorea and Taiwan. Now thry have a bigger arms market in India along with Japan, SKorea and Taiwan.
Ultimate looser will be India itself getting surrounded by enemies only.... Pls remember that every neighbour of India is its enemy in one or the other way, except for Bhutan. But wait and watch, China will one day claim Bhutan as well...
No other aspiring global power has as many enemies as their neighbours as India does... This is a political fact and not a healthy sign for India to grow in the future.
USA will enjoy the economic fruits of their partnership with India. Also the USA will counter balance India using China and China using India. The US will also sell their war machines in the process... Make no mistake about this...
Re: Re: Re: US gameplan in the region is working!
by Renuk on Nov 03, 2010 03:25 PM
Last paragraps to be read as ....
USA will enjoy the economic fruits of their partnership with India. Also the USA will counter balance India using Pakistan and China using India. The US will also sell their war machines in the process... Make no mistake about this...
Re: US gameplan in the region is working!
by Das on Nov 02, 2010 06:56 PM
Indian historically and in the recent past have approched Chinia with goodwill. OTH, China has replied by kickin India too mnay times, starting with Tibet occupation which should be an independent state like Nepal, then taking over part of Kashmir later further territory. In addition, it has armed Pakistan not just with convetional weapons with n-bombs. How can any India trust China?
At last India is mightily setting an ring of steel around the dragons neck and the dragon seems to hate the noose..hehehehe!!
India has to keep its Nukes around the forward bases with China as well as make an joint treaty with all nations threatened by China viz:Japan,Taiwan,Mongolia,Vietnam,Russia and make it clear that any attack on anyone of them will be answered by all these other nations ..this will make the dragon see fire and will also get his senses back..
High time China break up into 20 small nations for the peace and security of the world..USSR got broken so will China..2020 is the best time for revolution to break up this nation held by brute force and Gun..
... were a warning to India not to fish in disputed waters while China is busy dealing with issues in the South and East China seas, military analysts said : The South China Morning Post ------------------
Chinese analysts have bluntly warned India asking it to backtrack from commitment made along with US, Japan and other nations to keep sea lanes open.
The threat atleast serves the purpose of bringing in open the issue faced by India to Indians. Hopefully there will be less of corruption, and less of exploitation, instead there would be greater thurst on economic development and realistic measures to eliminate poverty in a cooperative mode with developed democracies.
China at present can only sabre rattle, it can not upset Indian interest without grave consequences to itself. Beijing would only be risking an economic meltdown if such transgressions continues.
Re: Beijing is risking an economic meltdown
by Ramesh on Nov 02, 2010 07:45 PM
In the South and East China Sea India is contributing to uphold International law. This stand in no way compromises our Non-alignment policy.
Non-alignment does not imply neutrality, it does imply conforming to international law and not be influenced by bilateral treaties to violate any provision of international law.
Chinese interests are better served by conforming to the letter and spirit of the law.
Re: Re: Beijing is risking an economic meltdown
by Ramesh on Nov 02, 2010 07:58 PM
Indian Non-alignment policy has been misunderstood by Chinese analysts.
First, it is an outcome of very deep consensus within the spectrum of Indian polity. And all foreign and security policy formulation are made by respecting this consensual mode.
The intra-national consensus once obtained becomes the basis for forging an international consensus consistent with international law or to reshape the law itself.
The need to ensure conformance to international law permits security architecture with all those who share similar concern as the valid basis for implementing the law.
If Chinese strategists expect to throw Indian policy making apparatus into disarray by creating contradictions within our internal polity it is not going to happen. If they think that non-alignment is inconsistent with security architecture they would be misinterpreting to their own detriment.
A behaviour conformance to International law shall elicit cooperative response from India towards China as well.
There are two ways of looking at this latest round of military show-off by the Chinkies. The first assessment is near-predictable and will most likely be parrotted by India's barely educated anti-Indian sections of the media, of "Chinese warnings" (to India, of course) and "threatening postures", coupled with self-flagellating, sanctimonious homilies - to India alone - to back down, cow down and appease the "superpower" dragon at all costs, including junking national honour and self-esteem. We can expect a stream of gibberish on this score.
The second and logical conclusion is there if only we wish to see and recognise it: the Chinkies are clearly a rattled lot. Gleaming Shanghai highways, bullet trains and swanky showcase cities built by slave labour and even a seemingly successful Olympic showbaaji is simply not going to hand China the leadership of the world. And India's quiet but timely strengthening its northeastern border, plus its belated, though, but nonetheless welcome Asian statesmanship) has the dragon rattled. You don't need huge military exercises if you're really confident. China isnt - and more importantly, it can't - period. Behind all that feigned contempt and show of superiority, the mandarin mask has begun slipping. Jaganniwas Iyer
Re: Firmness compels respect, not pusillanimity!
by shaker on Nov 02, 2010 05:26 PM
Excellent, "India's barely educated anti-Indian sections of the media" very apt.
Re: Firmness compels respect, not pusillanimity!
by eagle_sid@rediffmail.com on Nov 02, 2010 05:54 PM
only India has nothing to show for that counts for trust and responsible leadership either in neighborhood or in South East Asia. Like it or not Chinese have built or building platforms and avenues in these regions that will work in their interests in the long term.
