Re: Indian Civilization
by E darwin on May 22, 2010 10:12 AM
his saying Judeo-Christian is very opportunistic
saying Judeo-Christian is very opportunistic when Jews and Muslim practice circumcision and halal.
Then, there is also a very separation INduction saying, 'people of book'. Are the rest are people of wood?
Also, the holocaust was done by people who did not eliminate Christians as first choice.
Some people have not learnt lessons from Europe when they sideline native faiths of South-Asia.
I hope the European Jews reconcile with Asia and not bring those hard prejudices of Europe.
Give back to Asia what South-Asia has given to Jews and Europe.
Let Indians figure out the relevance of Saraswati and ganga.
Certainly, Ganga has to be cleaned.
The religious-commercial places like Rishikesh need to be dismantled, cleaned and re-organized. Those places have become a wreck and environmental disaster.
Lot of people have found their way into India and digging with their own intentions quite different from what they say.
tragedy with India is that there are so many who claim themselves as friends to separate indians from indians (from Faith basis to who knows what) in many sorts of way.
Indians like it as long they consider themselves privileged or seem to see an distinct advantage for themselves. So we are in such bad state.
they not only separate indians from indians, but they also separate indians from our true friends ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Indian Civilization
by KK on May 22, 2010 12:46 PM
Charlie, NASA is not aware of Indian past history well which stretcher back to several millennia. Hence it cannot offer precise explamnation.
I hope this guy is not another fake like the fathers of the Harappan Horse Seal -- David Frawley and N S Rajaram -- whose only interest is false glorification of India's history...
While on the face of it, it doesn't look like, I have grown skeptical about these guys who ooze honey and milk when they talk about India in order to gain acceptance.
India has a fantastic past, rich in colour and deep in character. But beware of those who talk only of the good things.
Re: I hope
by arun tk on May 22, 2010 10:35 AM
Mr. Harish, It is true that all of Indian history did not have only milk and honey. Just like any other, our history is also mixed with sweet and bitter flows. However, it is sad when people like you only like to hear the bitter stories even when something good exists somewhere. Reminds me of the saying...ksheeramullorakidin chuvattilum chora thanne kothukinu kouthukam (Even under a cows udder oozing with sweet milk, a mosquito is interested in blood). Learn to acknowledge the good things in our history rather than desiring to project everything Indian as bad. Also try to update your knowledge on Indian history based on recent scientific investigations (archaeological and biological) that disprove your outdated Aryan invasion myth. The grand myth of Aryan invasion perpetuated by the British and leftists (like you?) has now been proved obsolete. It is a wonder how the pseudointellectuals still like to carry around the carcasses of a colonial period and denounce people (like Frawley and Rajaram) when they speak of an India with a glorious past. What a shame!
Re: Re: I hope
by Harish Menon on May 22, 2010 12:22 PM
Woah woah... before you embarked on your diatribe you should have made the effort to read what I had written... Does any of your point about my view (Aryan invasion, "Leftist" and "when people like you only like to hear the bitter stories") occur in my post? If anything, what I have said is this: "INDIA HAS A FANTASTIC PAST, RICH IN COLOUR AND DEEP IN CHARACTER. But beware of those who talk only of the good things." Of course it is your prerogative to let your imagination run wild.
What is it in people like you that even the suggestion of the possibility of the not-so-glorious in India's past brings out the schoolboyish bravado -- one that blinds you from a natural historical narrative?
As for Rajaram and Frawley... well, I do not particularly consider inventing horse-seal hoaxes a scientific method! :D :D :D :D :D
Re: Re: Re: I hope
by arun tk on May 23, 2010 12:58 AM
The mention of Frawley and Rajaram in your initial post itself brings to mind the Aryan invasion theory and related discussions! That also brings the 'leftists' in to picture because of their conspicuous alertness on criticizing the evidences these people brought out in support against the invasion theory. Do they not? What else then do you expect as a response to your comment/post "fake like the fathers of the Harappan Horse Seal -- David Frawley and N S Rajaram -- whose only interest is false glorification of India's history..."? So that means you were not even aware of what you were writing! Try to think twice before you spill out your beans. No one denies the fact that India had a not-so-glorious past along with a 'a fantastic past, rich in colour and deep in character'. So what is in people like you that even the suggestion of the possibility of the not-so-glorious in India's past brings out the schoolboyish bravado -- one that blinds you from a natural historical narrative??? Are you under the impression that the horse seal is the only projected scientific method that support the discussed history? Come on man, many years have passed by after that evidence issue. Try to learn the most recent studies (incl. biological/genetic evidence) and how scientific proofs are getting accumulated. This said, every one agrees that all of Indian history did not have only milk and honey. No one claims of an exclusive glory as you feared in your imaginat
Re: Re: Re: I hope
by Mahendra Patel on May 22, 2010 11:16 PM
This said, The generation which is going to come to INDIA will be MEEK and SOFT SPOKEN- Not for EGO ENHANCEMENT but as a ONE OF US, a as GARDENER to weed out weed flourished by our NEGLECT.
Why would they DO THAT, after testing all there is under Earth and Heaven, they realizer something wonderful had happened in INDIA and it is still Alive, so It will be for The work of HEARTFELT DESIRE to rekindle in INDIA and this is only place it will be rekindled, Why?
There are SEEDS SCATTERED IN INDIA WAITING TO BE SPROUTED AGAIN.
Re: Re: Re: I hope
by arun tk on May 23, 2010 01:02 AM
The mention of Frawley and Rajaram in your initial post itself brings to mind the Aryan invasion theory and related discussions! That also brings the 'leftists' in to picture because of their conspicuous alertness on criticizing the evidences these people brought out in support against the invasion theory. Do they not? What else then do you expect as a response to your comment/post "fake like the fathers of the Harappan Horse Seal -- David Frawley and N S Rajaram -- whose only interest is false glorification of India's history..."? So that means you were not even aware of what you were writing! Try to think twice before you spill out your beans. No one denies the fact that India had a not-so-glorious past along with a 'a fantastic past, rich in colour and deep in character'. So what is in people like you that even the suggestion of the possibility of the glorious India's past brings out the schoolboyish bravado -- one that blinds you from a natural historical narrative??? Are you under the impression that the horse seal is the only projected scientific method that support the discussed history? Come on man, many years have passed by after that evidence issue. Try to learn the most recent studies (incl. biological/genetic evidence) and how scientific proofs are getting accumulated. This said, every one agrees that all of Indian history did not have only milk and honey. No one claims of an exclusive glory as you feared in your imagination and fr
Re: I hope
by sri on May 22, 2010 10:50 PM
Frawley was not involved in any falsification. And the scholars likley close to your own heart (based on your previous comments) such as Farmer and witzel are not exactly unbiased or honest scholars!
We indian are hypocrites at one hand we worship Ganga and other river but on the other we contaminate it just like we worship woman as devi but at the same time do not hesitate to take dowry, rape and molest them
Re: We indian are hypocrites
by Sathish N on May 22, 2010 12:43 PM
yes, shame on people who do that. Hopefully, people start realising it and correct it.
This guy came from france and understand the value of our rich culture. However still we have bunch of moranos who already or prefer konversions and s1avery of Middle East people leaving there great culture behind.
Re: Wow what a great human
by DotMetrix on May 22, 2010 08:49 AM
There jeanse already becomes s1ave so they can not live like king. They always search outside master to guide them.
Michel has read the India in a good and right sense. It's positives, negatives, about his passion towards Indian Scripts and Mythology. Good coverage of topic. Thanks to all.
Re: the saying Judeo-Christian is very opportunistic
by E darwin on May 22, 2010 06:19 AM
Lot of people have found their way into India and digging with their own intentions quite different from what they say.
Re: Re: the saying Judeo-Christian is very opportunistic
by E darwin on May 22, 2010 06:38 AM
continued..
tragedy with India is that there are so many who claim themselves as friends to separate indians from indians (from Faith basis to who knows what) in many sorts of way.
Indians like it as long they consider themselves privileged or seem to see an distinct advantage for themselves. So we are in such bad state.
Re: Re: Re: the saying Judeo-Christian is very opportunistic
by E darwin on May 22, 2010 06:39 AM
they not only separate indians from indians, but they also separate indians from our true friends ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: the saying Judeo-Christian is very opportunistic
by hotz on May 22, 2010 07:32 AM
India exists today as divided as it is because of caste system.While caste order regarding profession is not being followed,exploitative groups still make use of caste names to oppress others,Caste system is most worst form of oppression of people who do hard labour that feeds and nourish this society.
It would be nice if this sacred region of the world can eliminate the inhuman caste system ,the most oppressive system ever devised by man in the world
Re: Re: Hope caste goes down!
by hotz on May 22, 2010 07:29 AM
Buddhist India did not have caste..Caste is not a indication of a civilized nation.It is oppression in the name of religion..Those who believe in race as a fact more than the fact that all are human beings are racists..Those who deplore hard work that feeds you are outright foolish
Re: Re: Re: Hope caste goes down!
by mandar Dhayagude on May 22, 2010 10:45 PM
Budhist in shrilanka have caste system. They have 18 castes, out of that 2 castes were considered untouchables until recently. Each caste is associated with a profession (As in case of India). Interestingly there is no caste system, (caste associated with a profession) among H1ndues in Bali.
Re: Re: Re: Hope caste goes down!
by E darwin on May 22, 2010 07:44 AM
Buddist are great in their own way. No doubt about it. Buddism does very well in India along side many different faith.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hope caste goes down!
by hotz on May 22, 2010 08:05 AM
No one is writing BS,I am simply saying all are equal and this caste system is very primitive and uncivilized .People today never follow the caste order when they choose their profession,Men who are to preach as per the vedas today become software engineer similarly many blocks who do not follow their caste order yet still use their caste name to discriminate and oppress the people who do hard labour for this nation like tilling the fields etc..This will be detrimental to India..I am just quoting buddhist india to dispel the myth that a casteless india is not possible..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hope caste goes down!
by E darwin on May 22, 2010 08:16 AM
yes, cateism is flaw as much is slavery. but you cannot say that being AFRICAN is a flaw.
you cannot say, being ksatriya(samurai or warrior) is a flaw.
But some ksatriya imposed royalty criteria on commons.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hope caste goes down!
by Rahul Sr on May 22, 2010 09:11 AM
Obviously your identity is a mask and fake behind which a few dozen well trained people hide and puke on public forums on the great propaganda "mission" like the Chinese hacker army.
Re: Re: Re: Hope caste goes down!
by E darwin on May 22, 2010 07:40 AM
Buddist are great in their own way. No doubt about it. Buddism does very well in India along side many different faith.
