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ganesh pillai
Appoint ISI chief as ATS Chief
by ganesh pillai on Mar 25, 2010 03:12 PM  | Hide replies

Pakistan's ISI is the most suitable organization in the whole world to tackle terrorism. They know the A to Z about it and can deal very effective with them.



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Madhwacharya
Re: Appoint ISI chief as ATS Chief
by Madhwacharya on Mar 25, 2010 03:14 PM
ok ..so .. next what

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Gandhian Secular
@ng
by Gandhian Secular on Mar 25, 2010 02:55 PM  | Hide replies


first tell me whether you are communal or Secular ???

If you are communal then you have no right to reason with Honourable Jiahadis like Hamid

understood

and if you are Secular like me, then you have to accept what he is saying without any hitch

Now join me & say

JAY HO
JAY HO
JAY HO



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pravin patel
Re: @ng
by pravin patel on Mar 25, 2010 03:06 PM
now new ats chief will work for honerable jihadis & terrorists, new ats chief understand clearly that how it costly to go agaisnts terrorists.

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ng
Re: @ng
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 03:09 PM
@Gandhian Secular - sir, I am like you. Matter of fact, I take inspiration from your writing style.

I am very impressed with Gandhi's secular philosophy and its tremendous benefit to the country.

And you're right, I have NO right to reason with shaikhhamid.

I now join your movement :)

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ng
Re: Re: @ng
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 03:12 PM
Oh, and let me add, if Gandhi had been alive today, he would nominated Soniaji as his successor.

After all, she practices Gandhi's secularism x 100 times.

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Gandhian Secular
Re: Re: @ng
by Gandhian Secular on Mar 25, 2010 03:16 PM
Thats like a good (secular ) boy

Now say sorry to Honourable Sheikh Hamid

Honourable AbuAsim Azami

& Honourable Soniaji...

for hurting their sentiments by uncessary reasoning with this innocent peaceful secular..

He was jut trying to say that Honourable Afzal Guruis not getting justice in this country due to his secular identity
& person like NM (i hate to tke his name) getting sct free just because he is getting elected by huge Maority????

What kind of Justice is it ??


JAY HO

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ng
Re: Re: Re: @ng
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 03:26 PM
Sir, we will have to include super secular Teesta Setalwad in the apology as well.

She was communal before and then, turned into a secular.

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shaikhhamid
@NG
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:52 PM  | Hide replies

Modiji has NOT been charged. Every judicial process that he has gone through, he came out of glowing. He's clean - as certified by the judicial system.


if he is not charged then why is he appearing before various investigating agencies ???

and how come he is coming out clean ???

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punchdrunklove
Re: @NG
by punchdrunklove on Mar 25, 2010 03:02 PM
cause that is the fact, after investigation he found no evidence. Afterall he did not go and burn the Godhra Train!!

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ng
Re: @NG
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:59 PM
@shaikhhamid -

do you understand the difference between investigation and charging?

Let me explain - if there is a theft and police comes and asks YOU questions, they are investigating - it doesn't mean that you're being accused or a suspect or being charged.

On the other hand, if you're arrested and taken to the police station as a suspect and a charge sheet filed against you in a court by the police, then you are charged.

Modiji is appearing before investigation agencies because he was the CM of Gujarat when the trains carrying innocent civilians were burned and in retaliation, there was rioting.

He is coming out clean because to date, not a single 'Charge' has been laid on him by any judicial agency.

Having explained how judiciary works, let me come back to a more fundamental point - YOU are sympathizing with Afzal Guru? Why? Do you think he attacked because he was frustrated with the system? Or were there other motives?

And most importantly - what is YOUR true motive in defending Afzal?

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punchdrunklove
Re: Re: @NG
by punchdrunklove on Mar 25, 2010 03:03 PM
Just hang afzal,kasab and burn those dead terrorist bodies in morgue...silence this people once and for all!!

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ng
Re: Re: @NG
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 03:05 PM
@shaikhhamid - It seems to me that your mind is pre-determined. When people support Modiji, you automatically assume that they (and Modiji) are biased against a particular community.

You keep raising these questions to others - ever raise a question to yourself as to why the riots started in the first place?

Unless you throw out your bias, you will not find a good answer my friend.

You seem like a nice person, but misinformed and so, I took the time to respond to you.

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shaikhhamid
Re: Re: @NG
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 03:10 PM
ng
i never sympathised with guru....let they hang him....

in past also i have demanded his hanging....

and i am not defending him in any way....

i was just asking why ppl want to go out of the way in demanding his hanging....

when he is in Q of mercy pelea ??? why not wait for the law to take its own time then ???

thats it

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punchdrunklove
Re: Re: Re: @NG
by punchdrunklove on Mar 25, 2010 03:29 PM
how long afzal should be in a Q?

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shaikhhamid
Re: Re: Re: Re: @NG
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 03:49 PM
punch
what abt 1984 riots ????
how many got punished ???

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Mak C
Re: Help me choose a
by Mak C on Mar 25, 2010 02:50 PM
Male or female???

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Madhwacharya
Re: Re: Help me choose a
by Madhwacharya on Mar 25, 2010 02:51 PM
does not matter .. We are married

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swetambar
@Shaik Hamid
by swetambar on Mar 25, 2010 02:46 PM  | Hide replies

It is pity that you have swalllowed your own words and not able to answer the questions. Look at the facts, if a person is guided by just sympathy based on religion or caste without a firm information, this would happen

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shaikhhamid
Re: @Shaik Hamid
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:54 PM
swet
boss i have ot swallowed my own words....:)

all i want to know is why u show two different views on one judicial system ???

why cant ppl say abt guru that let the law(mercy petition) takes its own course ????

though he has been sentense by SC....he has got the option of going to the president....and he is using the same

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shaikhhamid
why is that
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:09 PM  | Hide replies

when it comes to modi u say.....wait let the law take its own course....

and when it comes to afzal guru....u just forgot his 'waiting list' number and demand hanging ????

u can justify this with kasab....but why with guru ???? i believe he is one amongst us...frustrated with politicians and our political system...?????

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Gandhian Secular
Re: why is that
by Gandhian Secular on Mar 25, 2010 02:36 PM

Hallo My dear Jihadi brother Hamid

I am well impressed by the education you got in your holy Madressa.

Honourable Mahatmaji wouldhave been pleased by your power of reasoning.

Realy really you belong to exclusive class of Honourable Jihadi Abu Asim Azami

JAY HO

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Mak C
Re: Re: why is that
by Mak C on Mar 25, 2010 02:42 PM
Learn to say 'Hey Raam'! Probably you may be blessed with some of the Gandhian qualities. How dare to steal his identity after murdering him?

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Gandhian Secular
Re: Re: Re: why is that
by Gandhian Secular on Mar 25, 2010 02:48 PM


No No my dear Jihadi brother Mac....I belong to you....our party ...pur thouhts ...our ideology belong to you

we want to keep you happy & pleased & that is our moto.

So Please Please dont get angry..... we will increase Annual Funds of your Madressa

JAY HO

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ng
Re: Re: Re: Re: why is that
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:51 PM
Good one :)

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Mak C
Re: Re: Re: Re: why is that
by Mak C on Mar 25, 2010 02:56 PM
Dunno what you are ranting about...How long have you been having these symptoms? Anywayz its curable...the cure is directly proportional to your distance from Nagpur ;)

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arunkumar ms
Re: why is that
by arunkumar ms on Mar 25, 2010 02:22 PM
Fantastic

Comparing Afzal Guru with Modi,



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shaikhhamid
Re: Re: why is that
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:26 PM
am
i am not comparing guru with modi here.....:)

all i want to say is why two different attitudes towards the judicial system of our country ????

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shaikhhamid
Re: Re: Re: why is that
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:31 PM
am

i want to ask u why dont u say the same thing(let the mercy pelia takes it own time) when it comes to guru ????

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Mak C
Re: Re: why is that
by Mak C on Mar 25, 2010 02:38 PM
True...no comparison...how many has Afzal Guru killed as compared to Modi? How smart is Afzal Guru to be behind bars as compared to Modi? Afzal Guru is a novice and truly nothing in comparison ;)

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ng
Re: why is that
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:14 PM
Can you rephrase that? Are you actually saying that Kasab and Afzal are frustrated by politicians and killing innocents?

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shaikhhamid
Re: Re: why is that
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:18 PM
kasab is totally different...he is from pak and he shd be hanged immediately....instead of giving 'fair trial' to ppl like kasab...our judiciary shd think abt those who r lying in various jailsall over india and waiting for their 'trial' to come up....they have spent more time in jails 'as undertrials' than the actual punishment...

guru is an indian and an educated person....may be he frustrated by our politicians and the system....as we feel same

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ng
Re: Re: Re: why is that
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:21 PM
@shaikhhamid - Agree about your first para.

But why spare Afzal? Didn't he carry out an attack? Wasn't it under instructions from Pak?

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shaikhhamid
Re: Re: Re: Re: why is that
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:25 PM
ng
i am not against his hanging....

all i want to say is when it comes to ppl like modi few guys take shelter in our judicial system....

and when its abt guru...the same lot want to go 'out of the way' and demand his hanging....

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The Patriot
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why is that
by The Patriot on Mar 25, 2010 02:32 PM
*hang and not hand

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ng
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why is that
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:34 PM
@shaikhhamid -

Here's the difference.

Modiji has NOT been charged. Every judicial process that he has gone through, he came out of glowing. He's clean - as certified by the judicial system.

Afzal - court has ordered him to be hanged. And so, not hanging him is just appeasement - isn't it.

If you and Congress doesn't believe in Indian Judicial System, then we have a very different story.

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The Patriot
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why is that
by The Patriot on Mar 25, 2010 02:32 PM
talk abt congress first....they have a bigger and a more rotten bag of sh1t lying in their backyard!!! the 1969 godhra riots under congress was more hopeless than the 2002 one!!! hand every congress and after their muck is cleaned up, lets come to BJP!!!

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Gandhian Secular
How dare you Mr Raghuvanshi.........
by Gandhian Secular on Mar 25, 2010 01:56 PM  | Hide replies



..........to reveal the details of persons detained, even though knowing that, they belong to innocent peaceful secular minority community.

You have not just hurt the sentiments of 20 crores Seculars but, of our goddess honourable Soniaji as well as her kind heated royal servant.

We will not tolerate such kind of Nonsense.

If those persons would have belong to communals then your step would have been most welcomed by us.

JAY HO

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shaikhhamid
Re: How dare you Mr Raghuvanshi.........
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:06 PM
GS
but why did u donated ur cloths as soon as u landed in india ????

:)

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ng
Re: Re: How dare you Mr Raghuvanshi.........
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:08 PM
Hamidbhai - you are mistaking him for the real Gandhi. He follows Gandhiji's "secular" philosophy, not clothing style :)

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shaikhhamid
Re: Re: Re: How dare you Mr Raghuvanshi.........
by shaikhhamid on Mar 25, 2010 02:10 PM
ng
ohhh sorry....my mistake....:)

hehehehe.....

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ng
Re: How dare you Mr Raghuvanshi.........
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:00 PM
'heated' royal servant?

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Mohinibartake
Absolute chaos!!
by Mohinibartake on Mar 25, 2010 01:41 PM  | Hide replies

Iam aghast at the direction our country is going...totally succumbing to vote bank politics, turning soft to terrorists and anti-national supporters.

The media, bollywood and the UPA all working very hard to safeguard the minorities interest.


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cool dude
Re: Absolute chaos!!
by cool dude on Mar 25, 2010 02:09 PM
mohini.. u was good in tejab.. u nothing but seems bjp follower.. why u foolowing party..instead of that follow person.. regarding.. minorties and all.. how many % they have.. and govt. not form on 10 or 20%.. got it u dumb

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ng
Re: Re: Absolute chaos!!
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:15 PM
@cool dude - Is that the best you got?

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Kabeera Speaking
Re: Absolute chaos!!
by Kabeera Speaking on Mar 25, 2010 02:00 PM
Mohini

Just below you are teaching to follow peace with zeal and here you are promoting hatred. And you this will bring peace.

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ng
Re: Re: Absolute chaos!!
by ng on Mar 25, 2010 02:01 PM
What part of what she said is 'promoting hatred' - perhaps you will be kind enough to point out?

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Mohinibartake
Re: Re: Absolute chaos!!
by Mohinibartake on Mar 25, 2010 02:39 PM
how about asking your jihadi brethren & religious leaders to preach love, peace and tolerance first...so that some peace is achieved in this tormented,insecure environment created by the jihadi whatever!!
Remember we did not start the fire!! So look into your own faults before your look into others for a change.

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Kabeera Speaking
Re: Re: Re: Absolute chaos!!
by Kabeera Speaking on Mar 25, 2010 03:45 PM
How about asking your HinduMaoistTerrorist brethren to preach love and tolerance first. And also to religious baba's who are making money by fooling people and spreading hatred in satsangh to preace love and tolerance for a change. So look into your own faults before you look into others for a change.

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Stud
Maria to replace Raghuvanshi as Maha ATS chief
by Stud on Mar 25, 2010 01:40 PM  | Hide replies

It seems that CM Ashok Chavan is furious with raghuvanshi saying that Hindu groups might be behind Pune Blasts.

In normal times, the CM would encourage such talk, but today Maharashtra :

1. Is Broke : Public Debt of 186 Lac Crores.
2. Farmer Suicides are increasing.
3. Electricity : short supply of 4000 Mw, with 16 hours power cuts.
4. Industries are moving out.

He is just trapped, so the other day Congress begged the BJP not to attack the CM in the Assembly session.

This I believe is done to keep us H1ndus at bay.

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neelam
Re: Maria to replace Raghuvanshi as Maha ATS chief
by neelam on Mar 25, 2010 03:09 PM
Till raghuvanshi was behind hindu organization he was safe, problem came when he caught the real culprits and religionofpeace exposed again.
rest of the things about maha is ok.

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cool dude
Re: Maria to replace Raghuvanshi as Maha ATS chief
by cool dude on Mar 25, 2010 02:11 PM
why always hindu word comess dear.. r hindu living like slaves or not able to survive..

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U
What is his contribution to Save Mumbai during 26/11?
by U on Mar 25, 2010 01:29 PM

Has he done anything ve to Save NMumbai during 26/11? In fact, instead of late Hemant Karkare's son, Rakesh Maria's son managed to get admission for B. Com. thru' Govt. Quota. That's just ridiculous. Mr. Raghuvanshi was fit for the job. He filled the void before & after Mr. Hemant Karkare. This repalcement is NOT going to make things better as far as Security of India from Terrorism is concerned. Centre & State Govt. want officers who will please them & NOT DO THE PROPER DUTY.

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