1-slam and Taliban are one and thesame. Its hightime to get ridof both of them. Else this world would never be better place to live again ever. Muzlims all over the world should read Q-ran and understand how evil itis. Get rid of it. Else itwill gobble you up completely and your future generations will suffer the same fate what the afghanis, Iraquis and others are facing. They are suffering because of the mistake commited by their forefathers have done by accepting 1slam. Terrorism is just a tool which have engulfed you and it would teach a lessons to you. Just think how many precious lifes 1slam sponsored terrorism have been taking throughout ages and now in the name of terrorism. 1slam is a onegate religion which does not have exit, which is not flexible, which is evilistic, which is not open to liberal and inclusive societies. Understand this truth of this evil you have been blindfoldedly following. Get rid of this if you want to make this world a better place to live for your future generations. 1slam is deceptive!!
Re: The Truth.
by imroz sohail on Apr 26, 2010 03:54 PM
show a single verse of the quran which is against humanity...den talk...!!jus bcos a section does wrong u cant stereotype all muslims as evil...quran n islam does not support killing inocent ppl...dont talk rubbish,if u dont know wat the message of quran is..!!!
Re: Re: The Truth.
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 04:57 PM
All Qur’anic verses from Yousuf Ali’s translation)
•Quran: 9:23: "O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong".
•Quran: 3:28: “Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah”
•Quran: 9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and….”
•Quran: 8:12: “ …I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”
•Quran: 5:45: We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” (Does this verse sounds human?)
•Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a pr
Re: Re: Re: The Truth.
by aj on Apr 26, 2010 10:09 PM
thanks for enlightening me bro... can you further quote the context and not the brief verse would be interested in reading them as well. Peace out
Re: Re: Re: The Truth.
by nafis khan on Apr 27, 2010 01:13 PM
Mr Walli, you idiot, why are you reading only single line of some paragraphs of holy Quran and what you want to show. Go and read the entire Quran first and then you will come to know the meaning of each and every word of above sentences. This will be more helpful for you foolish people who don't know anything about religion and humanity. Today a very big population of the world follows Islam and proud to be muslim and once in future you will also get convinced Insha Allah. This is the power of Islam.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Truth.
by Walli Allah on Apr 28, 2010 09:41 AM
Look..my dear friend...there is no power in islam apart from violence and deception in the name of God. This is your deception and ignorance which makes you to abuse me with such unholy words. Your khoran is not a holy book but a rowdy book. The quotes are just in brief, but the list is endless.
Today if the world is following khoran in a major way the it is because they dont have any other option. Your mullas will not allow or tolerate any other optional religion to co exist. Do they dare...they dont because Islam does not stand for democracy and freedom of choice. People who quit islam will get killed. Many people live in fear and intimidation. I am convinced of the above and youwill also get convinced the same one day...Insha Allah.
Re: Re: Re: The Truth.
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 05:01 PM
Mr Sohail and others. Did you get the above. This is in breif. Go and read your book completely first and then understand it in conjuntion with history and understand the implications. What ever is happening in this world today is not happening with out the support of khuran and hadiths. More the 70% of problems in this world today is because of these and you.
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by aj on Apr 26, 2010 10:19 PM
put humans in a dark chamber for a lifetime and they would still find differences... if it was'nt difference in religion theyd explore caste & creed, if not then color of skin... its human nature... the world would still fight even if there was no islam my friend... well off late there is enough meat in the news to conveniently lay the blame on mu slims.. couple of questions for u: 1. na xal killings would that be a terrorist act? 2. dal it killings would that be a mu slim act? 3. L T T E killings would that be a mu slim act? 4. day in day day out b lasts in our neighbouring country pa kistan well this would be interesting how do we define this act? ........... point is its all bad.. would love a place on earth which lived in peace
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by Walli Allah on Apr 28, 2010 10:08 AM
They are also terrorist..but not islamic terrorist. They dont kill people in the name of GOD and convert them. They dont weil women and kill innocent animals. They are better than islamic terrorist since at least they are not deceptive in the name of GOD.
Re: The Truth.
by sazeeda Imran on Apr 26, 2010 02:11 PM
Hitler has killed six million jews...can anybody blame christianity for dat..??den wat abt IRA,ULFA killing innocents..the lifes thet claim are far above,.,,but media highlights wat they want to highlight n hides wat they want to hide... show a single verse of the quran which is against humanity...den talk...!!jus bcos a section does wrong u cant stereotype all muslims as evil...quran n islam does not support killing inocent ppl...dont talk rubbish,if u dont know wat the message of quran is..!!!
Re: Re: The Truth.
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 02:37 PM
Hitlar and others did not creap and survive on religion. So their religions cannot be blamed. Not even the Israilis. No one else commits mass murders in the name of religion. This is not the case of yours. There was a time muslims arround the world supported Osama bin laden and now suddenly he and his activities are anti islamic...these are the hights of hipocracy.
Re: Re: The Truth.
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 02:54 PM
Go and read the history and understand it properly. Go to places like Qutub minar etc and realise it. Read the Hadits and feel it. Then you will understand how your ancestors have treated women of other religins specially Hindus in India. You being a women should feel and understand the truth. Be truthful to yourself. YOu will realise it.
Re: Re: The Truth.
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 02:34 PM
Killing for what ever reason is not justifiable, be it innocent or otherwise. So dig into your rubbish first and then comment. You are not the only great who understood the message of quran. We have been seeing it for last so many centuries. That is the hidden message of quran. So look into your boooks first.
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by nafis khan on Apr 27, 2010 01:19 PM
Which few quotes you idiot. these few quotes are for you foolish people only. People who read entire book is actual reader and knowledgeful people.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Truth.
by aj on Apr 26, 2010 10:08 PM
thanks for enlightening me bro... can you further quote the context and not the brief verse would be interested in reading them as well. Peace out
Re: Re: The Truth.
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 11:55 AM
Yes....so are the poeple produced from Islamic Seminaries in India. How many a single Modi can do harm to. You know every one is not soo defensive less.
Your ancestors right from mohamad to your present leaders like are alos Talibanis !! I hope you are secular and human enough recognise this.
Re: The Truth.
by VEER on Apr 26, 2010 08:01 AM
This is the message I saw among many comments here on rediff by someone called "Walli Allah"....this seems to be truth acutally.
Re: The Truth.
by imroz sohail on Apr 26, 2010 06:48 PM
It is ridiculous to make such nonsennse comments on such a great religion.What do you know about the Islam Mr.Veer?You have no rights to make such comments on it and hurts millions of its followers all over the world.I guess you have not grown up yet.Think first what u r writing before posting such coments.Islam is such a wonderful religion that no other religion can even match to it.Come learn the teachings of Islam throught the Holy Quran and the Hadith.then only yopu wil come to know that Islam is that religion which preaches for the peace in the world and serves the humanity.
Re: The Truth.
by Moazzam Arfi on Apr 26, 2010 04:42 PM
It is ridiculous to make such nonsennse comments on such a great religion.What do you know about the Islam Mr.Veer?You have no rights to make such comments on it and hurts millions of its followers all over the world.I guess you have not grown up yet.Think first what u r writing before posting such coments.Islam is such a wonderful religion that no other religion can even match to it.Come learn the teachings of Islam throught the Holy Quran and the Hadith.then only yopu wil come to know that Islam is that religion which preaches for the peace in the world and serves the humanity.
Re: Re: The Truth.
by VEER on Apr 26, 2010 06:21 PM
As I told you above....I am not the one who has commented as stated. But for your kind information I would like to state that--- We dont need you to preach us. We have been practicing such peace, inclusiveness and secularity right from the ages. You need to growup and learn what is right and what is wrong. You need to growup in a right way. I again state that I have no enemity with your religion as you have with us and others which is evident from many of your beloved preachers looked upon by you with great respect worldwide. But still I would say that it is still All is well in India is because of us i.e the majority of Hindus who are secular and peaceful in true sense as per our religious texts. See your fellow thousand of muzlims from Kerala and other states and countries how good are they in spreading terror and killings. If your religion is soo good then this would have not happened. Now you would say that they are not real islamists. Well....every one of you would say such thing as I heard, read and saw you guys.
I dont hate you as you are my fellow human beings. But I feel pitty for you since you are the most vulnerable to brainwashing and intimidation.
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by nafis khan on Apr 27, 2010 01:22 PM
Which sanathan dharm. Nobody knows what is that even my neighbour don't know what is that. Can you tell me its meaning.
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by Walli Allah on Apr 28, 2010 10:01 AM
Sanatana Dharma, meaning “Eternal or Universal Righteousness” is the original name of what is now popularly called Hinduism. Sanatana Dharma comprises of spiritual laws which govern the human existence. Sanatana Dharma is to human life what natural laws are to the physical phenomena. Just as the phenomena of gravitation existed before it was discovered, the spiritual laws of life are eternal laws which existed before they were discovered by the ancient rishis (sages) for the present age during the Vedic period. Sanatana Dharma declares that something cannot come out of nothing and, therefore, the universe itself is the manifestation of the Divine being. This truth forms the invocation of the Isa Upanishad (a Hindu scripture):
That is full; this is full. The full comes out of the full. Taking the full from the full, the full itself remains.
This verse expresses the mystery of creation. This universe comes forth from the Divine, yet the universe takes nothing from the Divine and adds nothing to It. Divine remains ever the same. Since the universe has come forth from the Divine, all things and beings are sacred and must be treated so in human thought and action. The Divine sleeps in minerals, awakens in plants, walks in animals and thinks in humans.
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by Walli Allah on Apr 28, 2010 10:04 AM
If your neighbours are not aware of what Santhana Dharma is then they are living in ignorance like you. But it does not entitle you to disgrace Sanathana Dharma and convert people and making them the prisioner of islam.
Re: Re: Re: The Truth.
by Philomena Fernandes on Apr 28, 2010 01:34 PM
Mr. VEER : u think it is still “All is well in India is because of U i.e the majority of HINDUS who are secular and PEACEFUL”??? Right??? What about in Karnataka – who attacked our churches and prayer centers, attacking Christians during their times of worship? YOU HINDUS. Who destroyed the church buildings and properties? At least 11 churches were destroyed. And in Orissa - Hundreds of village churches have been burnt and razed to ground. Christian nuns have been gang-raped and burnt to death by you HINDUS. Priests have been killed and attacked with iron rods, clubs, swords, and country made guns. Tens of thousands of Christians have fled to the jungles to save their lives and are subsisting on roots and herbs. They forced Christians to bow before HINDU Gods and threaten them with death if they do not denounce Christianity and accept HINDUISM. Christians are targeted irrespective of age and gender. Even children were not spared from these barbaric acts. Christians were assaulted, humiliated, paraded half-naked, beaten up, their limbs mutilated, tortured, burnt alive, raped, and murdered by u HINDUS. Alleged VHP (Vishva Hindu Parishad) radicals are supposedly responsible for this utterly unbelievable carnage.
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by VEER on Apr 28, 2010 03:54 PM
Mr. Fernandes. I dont personally support violent activities against anything in this world. You should just things taking history and current event happening. My above comments were in light of those. As far as violence against christians is concerned majority of the hindu community dont support it. You know it. I myslef being a staunch Hindu I go to church and have loads of christian friends. I belive in Jesus along with all our devi and devatas and Paramatma. Jesus is the one who gave his life for sake of us. But you should condemn equally the activities conducted by the christian missionaries at other places. Though they are not violent enough, but that infringed hindu sentiments. I oppose any violence from both side including intimidation. You should understand the nature of majority of hindus and their religion. Tell me how many events in the history tell you about the violence against christians by hindus. In the above context I was just highlighting how innocent hindus have fallen pray to islamic terrorism in the past and now as well. There are islamic crimes against christians as well. You should know it. Violence against christians is not supported by majority of hindus.
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by Philomena Fernandes on May 02, 2010 06:05 PM
Mr. Veer.. nice to know u have Christian friends!! But from your 1st comment on Muslims I understood this much. You have no understanding of anything. Islam or any other religion does not need your advices. Precisely this is what your culture is about. Keep your brain in searching for a job or finding a gal for you
u think “ISLAM IS DEVEPTIVE!!! GET RID OF THIS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE FOR YOUR FUTURE GENERATION” .
Can u pls explain What ur religion teaches u to MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE?? consider the cow as ur God. Every cow, that is. I still find it confusing. Now, if we kill a cow, and eat it up, is that dead cow considered a god too? Like a dead god?? Why don't Hindus eat beef but wear leather jackets and shoes and sit on leather sofas which came from cow god?
Don’t forget there are many muslims in India as well as in Pakistan who do not support terrorism..
This incident of abduction of Robin singh shows the state of affairs in Pakistan .Pakistan is using Taliban as their long term strategy.Whether America, after spending billions of dollars in AF-PAK area, will be successful in eliminlating the threat from Taliban is quite doubtful and this America will learn the hardway.
What about justice for 84antisikhriots victims. 20,000 innocent people were buchered in 1984 by goons of a secular organization. Even Taliban has not perpetrated that amount of barbarism as that secular outfit perpetrated in 1984.
Re: Forget about Taliban
by dillip tripathy on Apr 26, 2010 02:55 PM
Only communal bigots kills one another in the name of religion. When sombody hates other because the other person is not his co-religious, he became communal not secular. Secular means free from communal bias and do not hate anyone because of rligious identy.
Re: Forget about Taliban
by Indian Citizen on Apr 26, 2010 03:46 PM
Shaswat, just try to get reasons behind 84 ? Was it a loyality to slain PM ? or some pressure which was getting buildup since 47 !! Was it the attitude of a class of people who although accepted refugees but when they saw that their bread were being snatched via corrupt means by the refugees ? even they fought together with the original habitants and tried to show them their power of unity via Gurdwaras . The roots of hatread were bukding up and they just got the reason to explode !!! No community should try to overpower others but should try to live in harmony, this ballance was getting away from equalibrium before 84 and post 84 brought it ...
I Hope Sania Mirza does not complain that Pakistanis want her to cut her hair... When she wears Chaddis to play Tennis donno how Pakis are gonna react....?
Re: Hope Sania doesnt complain that her Hair is being cut
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 02:51 PM
Dont put some slimy and unethical comment on women. They deserve a lot of respect...who ever women is. These richis..Sania and Malik together destroyed the life of a middle class ordinary women.
Re: H_ind_os and sikhs are 2nd class citizens in India
by Mohsin Ahmed on Apr 25, 2010 02:10 PM
Why is the guy in Pakistan? Let him come to India. Pakistan is for terrorists only.
Re: Re: H_ind_os and sikhs are 2nd class citizens in India
by Walli Allah on Apr 26, 2010 02:47 PM
Dont say this any where else....Your own people will mutilate into small not so significant pieces and say that we have identified a Khafir or Shaytan and successfully elimated him. You wife will endup in a brother house or some mullas timepass and your other family will be finished for ever. So beware...since I am also a victim. If you are brave..then comeforward and stand against mullas.
Re: Re: H_ind_os and sikhs are 2nd class citizens in India
by pranav bhutada on Apr 25, 2010 07:51 PM
finally you aceept that pakistanis are terrorist only
