Frankly speaking Is1am is entirely against the values of liberal or democratic society. Is1am implies extreme subservience to the will of its god! When Is1am changes or reforms its archaic and outdated tenets- stopps older men from marrying children, stops polygamy & the oppression of women, encourages a broad educational system for both sexes, stops horiffic sharia based punishments and stops its war on all other faiths, and allows the freedom for people to objectively look, question & analyse what is actually written in the Quran and hadiths without the sword of apostasy hanging over their heads, the West and other open societies will gladly welcome those who follow Islam to join the progress that the rest of the planet seems to be embarked upon. Unless Is1am develops tolerance, no other religious community anywhere in the world will tolerate the belligerence of Is1am! This is already seen in the way minarets were banned in Switzerland or Canada, France, etc banning the burka or the US introducing additional checks and profiling for people from 16 mus1im countries including Pak & Saudi!
Re: You need both hands to clap
by shiraj syed on Apr 10, 2010 06:56 PM
But jai, don't you think that the same things that you highlighted about islam are also practiced by hindus in our country? Older men marrying children, child marriage, polygamy, oppression of women in rural areas etc.? Hypocricy eh??
Re: Re: You need both hands to clap
by Yerra Burra on Apr 11, 2010 07:00 PM
But there is a MAJOR difference. Hindus don't condone those abominable practices and they are not AFRAID of condemning those. There is no comparison whatsoever. Why cann't "everyone" condemn terrorism and barbaric practices without the fear of fatwas? Please don't talk about hypocricy.
Re: Re: You need both hands to clap
by Sheikh Akber on Apr 10, 2010 04:35 PM
values and faith will go worse that islam would be the only religion to control it..you can't deny the fact that muslim countries have lesser crime rates, example saudi, kuwait.
Re: Re: Re: You need both hands to clap
by Jai Babu on Apr 10, 2010 04:41 PM
This is not to hate-monger, but the blunt fact is that in today's world, Is1am & sharia are blatantly discriminatory towards women! Polygamy, underage marriage, telephone nikah, triple talaaq, etc are accepted by the clergy and totally biased against females! A divorced female has to wait for Iddat(3 lunar months or menstrual periods) to get married while a male can jolly well marry upto 4 anytime. And the divorce settlement & maintenance! See the attitude towards women! Wondrous treatment of women under wonderful religion! The next time, someone posts bull-crap about how the rights of Mus1im women are enshrined in the sharia and by Is1am, this Shoaib-Sania-Ayesha, ShahBano, Imrana, Gudiya, etc examples will suffice. Even the Mus1im clergy's opposition to contraception or family planning is based not so much on a desire for limitless breeding but a objective to prevent people from enj0ying the se xual freedom brought by birth control. Many are the women or men stoned, fl0gged/ki11ed for their independent thought on religion, science or sexuality by Is1amic radicals in mus1im majority countries. Liberal and democratic societies cant accept these!
Re: Re: Re: You need both hands to clap
by Harry VanDeusan on May 21, 2010 10:12 AM
Yes. But to reach that state , you will have to commit abominable crimes against non-muslims. The muslim countries came into existence thanks to terrible crimes committed against the non-muslims who were the ancestors of the muslims.
Re: Re: Re: You need both hands to clap
by calebsingh on Apr 10, 2010 04:45 PM
trampling and persecuting minorities from morroco to indonesia islam gets what it sows take respect and give respectand treatment of people from other religions as equals should be in tolled into countless muslim preachers especially in muslim predominant countries
According to isslam a KafIr [non-musslim] is never innocent. He is a sInner against A1LAH FOR NOT BEL1EVEING IN HIM!
It is legitimate to kill a Kafir... If at all there are verses in kkkuran where Kafirs are not to be killed, they are concessions given (like Jazia), not the rights of the Kafirs!..
No need of arguments; isslam is not peaceful towards non-musslims.
musslims know this very much. They cool you temporarily speaking out those sugar-coated kkkuranic verses only until they gain an advantageous position. Once they are ready and you are complacent, they will force forward their isslamic agenda of expansion.
There is a correlation between the percentage of musslim population and terrorism & violence.
10% musslim population is treated as a critical mass after which they start fomenting trouble.
According to isslam, the whole globe belongs to a11ah and by default to his followers, musslims.
The real isslamic mindset is to spread across the world, multiply,gain political power and then subjugate the non-musslims.
DESTROY these jeehaadis BEFORE they DESTROY THE WORLD!!!
Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINATE THE WO
by Sheikh Akber on Apr 10, 2010 04:31 PM
your bla bla bla is false, islam says when situation go so worse that people whoever they are attack your house/family than you have to kill and there is no sin in doing so...islam teaches before doing a war one should try to negotiate so that no blood is spilled. go and understand the book first, I appeal to each and every non muslims go and understand the book.
Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINATE TH
by Ram on Sep 07, 2010 10:30 AM
If this would have have done in India your forefathers Mughals would have been finished
Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINATE TH
by Sahara on Apr 10, 2010 04:54 PM
your founder was a terroristts and so are all real muslis, u r hypocrite, read ur founders life story from authentic sources
Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINATE TH
by elaine burgess on May 20, 2010 01:45 AM
There is ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING PEACEFUL ABOUT ISLAM!Remember the Carpenters in IRAQ yes remember how they killed theses innocent men who were there to help build there community!!
Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINATE TH
by calebsingh on Apr 10, 2010 04:51 PM
bullshit do you think osama bin laden and ayman al zwahiri learnt islam from mars or what what about ibn taminya,madudi,qutb and azam the palestinian are they reading some forged quran or not they are pious muslims to the core
Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINATE THE WO
by jaggu on Apr 10, 2010 04:23 PM
DO you see Saudi king atoning fo his past sins of discrimination with funding giant Churches and temples of all faiths in Mecca and Medina?
Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINATE TH
by Indian on Apr 11, 2010 06:04 PM
mus1ims will remain mus1ims forever and will be the fastest growing re1igion on the face of the earth..
U RSS (chamchas) of jews...u keep spelling venoms on mus1ims they keep increasing in numbers...
The fastest growing re1igion in the world is islam...
Re: Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINAT
by Nishant Soans on Apr 11, 2010 11:30 PM
WEll congrastulations to the fastest growing religion in the world(Which is in fact due to highest birthrate among muslims) ..
Well, But whne u ultimately become the largest religion do u know what kind of world u will be living in? there will be severe food shortage.. ur people will start killing each other for food... and have u considered Global warming?
U people are only considered about ur religion and not anything else... u do not have brains.. seriously...
Re: Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINAT
by elaine burgess on May 20, 2010 01:48 AM
Bible Says It will, But in the END Christians will be the only winners!Our God is a God of LOVE not War and hate!
Re: Re: Re: isslam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION;IT WANTS TO DOMINAT
by Ram on Sep 07, 2010 10:36 AM
How..Five wives 25 childrens policy.or forceful conversion.Any body can increase the numbers of mechanics criminals terrorists.Sanjay Gandhi was right for Nasbandi of you people.
The baddest in islam, potray themselves as messengers and uneducated muslims accept it, this is the biggest problem of muslims around the world...they don't have clue whom to follow..few bad people respresent them do bad things and entire muslims pay the price.
Re: Re: Re: Illiteracy is the biggest problem of muslims across t
by jaggu on Apr 10, 2010 04:18 PM
The book is perfect but the mullahs are not ! Just look at Mulla MMS....
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by chandu on Jul 13, 2010 02:26 PM
Grrr Yuck !!!!!!!learning something from Uneducated mullas ? I dont want to think about that .
Re: Illiteracy is the biggest problem of muslims across the world
by Jai Babu on Apr 10, 2010 04:19 PM
Those who think that jehad is the work of poor, uneducated & exploited need to understand that it is not socio-economic status, but the very nature of these so called radical is1amic ideologies. Look at the Umar Farouk Abdulmutallabs, Ranas, Headleys, Omer Sheikh, Dr. Sameer, Peerbhoy, Major Nidal, Mohd Atta, Yusuf Bhatkal, etc, etc!!They were educated professionals and not bearded goatherds or mullahs! The danger is the clerics claiming a unique identity & separate ethnicity for mus1ims and of their apparent grievances! That is an utter falsehood, propagated by the clergy to ensure that the Ummah stay together and under their control! This is what makes other communities supicious that loyalty to Ummah is greater that that to ur country!!! This ummah is nothing but religious imperialism!! In a hurry to reach an orgiastic paradize and escape from their hate filled lives, young men are clamouring to be suicide b0mbers! Can anything be more macabre than this! They are turning life into hell for other people to please their imaginary god! It is fashionable to talk about the threat to humanity posed by AIDS, H1N1, Global Warming, Nuclear Weapons, and many others, but I think that BLIND faith is one of the world's great evils, especially the wahabi-deobandi-salafi brand of twisted faith. These fanatics must be stopped at any cost as open, liberal societies such as Europe, US, India, Australia, etc. are their targets!
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by Sheikh Akber on Apr 10, 2010 04:28 PM
if we look closely..every terrorists attack has hidden political agenda, there is no such thing as jehadi..its a supari job..the mullahs like laden and omar are the people who take hefty supari's huge money and target countries..and fool muslims in the name of islam they brain washed muslim youths and use them in contract job..on the other hand these idiot youths don't know that they are actually being a contract killers rather than jehadis..the bottom line is there is no such thing like jehad, its all contract job being carried by self made islamic leaders.
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by Jai Babu on Apr 10, 2010 04:45 PM
Some faiths like Hinduism or Buddhism are more of a broadbased culture and polytheistic in nature than a strict theological religion. On the other hand, Is1am, Christianity, etc are theological in nature and the holy b00ks are supposed to be divine and the word of god. Because of its monotheistic nature and adherence to the holy book, dissent or diverse viewpoints are frowned upon. Christianity and Judaism have however become more liberal and tolerant over the passage of time and the advent of science and rationalistic thought. But Is1am has remained spectacularly insular and in fact become more radical like the WahabiDeobandiSalafi brand of radical, rabidly fundamental and brutally twisted form of faith which has led to bloodshed and ruin. Some of the greatest evils in the world have been committed by people in the name of religion! BLIND faith is one of the world's great evils and more so when it teaches that lives of non-believers is not worthy! Anyday, a pluralistic and assimilative culture is superior to any exclusivist religion which professes to have the only true god and know the absolute truth!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Illiteracy is the biggest problem of muslims acro
by Rajesh on Apr 11, 2010 05:42 PM
Both flourished in Deserts. But the Xians produced scientists and those influenced the mass, for Islam it produced uneducated mass which turned to terrorise the entire universe.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Illiteracy is the biggest problem of muslims acro
by Wendell Hayward on Apr 17, 2010 09:35 PM
Jai Babu, I am from the US, an you are obviously an educated man who knows his facts an isn't afraid to tell the truth. I applaud you.
The book is very perfectly clear about what is approved & anything else is strict no no. For example :
1) Travelling by camel in desert is approved ; but boarding flights ( with unveiled air hostesses), trains cars on asphalted roads is not approved! In fact camel is approved for food,transport , sacrifice and also sex. 2) When these people land up in Europe they are forced to use toothbrush , soap and deodrant , tea and cofee, sliced bread etc which has no approval in the holy book. 3) Houses , cars and gas bills force them to borrow from banks on mortgages( not allowed).
As a result of straying from natural habitat innumerable breaches to mode of life allowed by the book. Finally if all the breaches are totalled up a lot of kafirs will have to be hired in Europe - to carry out stoning and lashing in the correct spirit of the book.
Re: These people are straying from the virtuous path shown by bo
by Jai Babu on Apr 10, 2010 04:27 PM
Then the radical WahabiDeobandiSalafi brand of twisted faith will follow the fantasies of a deranged goatherd that will take the world back to the 7th century and u can stop using computers, electricity, TV and go to graze goats and keep a harem!
Look at the number of comments!! These articles disturb the balanced society. If anything goes wrong, I think media will pay price for publishing these and causing more problems.
Re: Rediff just wants more hits!
by Wealthy Guy on Apr 10, 2010 04:25 PM
Contra View: I have a view why don't u see this as the response of masses towards ur fake religion breeds nothing but terrorists?
Re: Rediff just wants more hits!
by Rajesh on Apr 11, 2010 05:49 PM
Sometimes rediff also post such eye opening messages. Thanks rediff. Atlest the kafirs be aware of what happens all around.
The only thing I love about China, here I am not to discuss their economical strength, army power, foreign reserve or export. Here, I need to say that this is the only country who is hitting very hard muzi (ethinic ughur from Xinia province, the only province where muzi are living in China) where in 1980, there were 90% ughur muzi, but by 2008 last population count in China by province base, ughur muzi only left 54% and there is no doubt in next decade chinese govt. will completely wiped out these muzis. Good part is there is no media allowed to know what is happening there. Last year ethnic violence, China killed nearly 1600 to death by lethal injections were all urughur muzi (published by Amnesty Int), and not shit muzi country has power to show their figure towards China. This is a good lesson our govt. should adopt and kill those terrorists who are in jail, incl. muzi and naxlaties.. no matter which religions they belongs to.. simply kill them, and stop illegal migrants from Bangaladesh.
