Theists obsessed with vegan sense may not buy this , but according to ''bhikshu pratimoskha samvar sheel''[ethical code for a budhist monk]a bhikshu [hinayan or mahayan ]can partake meat and fish except that of certain given animals.
Re: Arushi murder
by some one on Sep 15, 2009 10:48 AM
Regarding Hindi, what if the British had not invaded India. Then probably English would not be so wide spread in India, but it is unlikely that India would have remained forever backward simply because of lack of English.
Most human languages are good enough for the people who use them. Hindi is no exception.
However the controversy in India is because of political domination that is sought through use of Hindi. equal respect for all Indian languages is better than simply promoting Hindi as some sort of superior or Upper Class language.
Re: Arushi murder
by some one on Sep 15, 2009 10:57 AM
Learning more languages is of itself a good thing and to be encouraged. the State can contribute to this situation by making freely available learning and translation facilities for all possible languages to everyone who is interested.
There could even be an award scheme for citizens who learn more languages.
It would promote more interest across the subcultures of India, help in national integration (which should be seen as not merely about religious communities, but about cultures), and make communication more efficient.
Re: Arushi murder
by some one on Sep 15, 2009 10:53 AM
The argument that more people speak Hindi as mother tongue, too is not a valid one. To a non Hindi person it is hardly relevant as to how many people thyere are who speak Hindi. Their own mother tongue is the most important language for them, at least in terms of self respect as well as ease of learning other subjects.
Why should non Hindi speakers suffer the disadvantage of having to learn a different language while the Hindi speakers learn those subjects in their mother tongue?
The easiest solution is not to put any restrictions on use of language, except in formal or legal matters any language for which translation services are or could be made available should be permitted.
After all why should the other Indian languages, or for that matter even any non Indian languages be discriminated against?
It is Hinduism that propagats and attaches great importance to vegetarianism!It is another matter that many kasmiri pandits like karan Singh are also non-veg.
By saying that DL is a non vegodes Dr. karan Singh want us to emulate his example?
All those who are non veg are inflicting CRUELTY on animals...If nature wanted humans to be non veg, it would have given talons,paws and fangs to humans as well!
Re: But DL is NOT a Hindu!
by Ted Kennedy on Sep 15, 2009 10:24 AM
Humans are more known for their UNIQUE brains rather than talons etc; Even plants FEEL pain when you uproot them and cut them - you need special faculty to hear it.
Re: But DL is NOT a Hindu!
by some one on Sep 15, 2009 11:05 AM
Cruelty is inherent in nature, though it does not justify our cruelty to animals.
However mankind has no alternative but to continue to kill animals, as it food for many people and is also nutritionally very important if not better.
The ethical issues in non vegetarianism cannot be denied, but have no instant solution. Life itself is inherently cruel.
After all is it not also cruel to deny benefits to those who are less efficient at work? Are human beings supposed to be machines that they should be required to be efficient?
But who will do the work then, and whose obligation is it to support those who do not work efficiently?
So there is no perfect solution. We have to try to be less cruel in the methods of killing animals for food, and try not to encourage avoidable killing for mere sport, etc.
It is wrong to restrict animal dissections at school, for two reasons.
Firstly some of the experiments that are not done on animals will in effect get performed on live human beings. secondly it discourages learners from insisting on Primary Observation as a far superior thing to Secondary Observation.
The difference between Primary and Secondary Observation is the single most important feature of Science, and has to be inculcated in students from the earliest stages of science learning.
Therefore though undoubtedly a cruel thing for the poor animals, it is wrong to restrict dissections in school.
Re: Re: But DL is NOT a Hindu!
by Ram Sharma on Sep 15, 2009 11:59 AM
Mr. Someone, Good views! However:
1. For nutirtive purposes, it is NOT necessary to have non veg food!
2. Another reason in support of vegetarianism is: "If you cannot give life to an animal/bird/fish ec, what gives you the right to deprive them of it for satisfying your hunger?"
Dissection in schools is for educative purposes only and not for eating ....Many of those who dissect become vet doctors who look after the animals..hence perhaps, dissections could be condoned with a pinch of salt!
Re: But DL is NOT a Hindu!
by rakesh bhat on Sep 15, 2009 11:07 AM
Karan singh is not a kashmiri pandit.He is a dogra.He is just dragging the name of Dalai lamba only for publicity.We dont know about Lambas eating habbits
Re: But DL is NOT a Hindu!
by rakesh bhat on Sep 15, 2009 11:11 AM
Karan singh is not a kashmiri pandit.He is a dogra.He is just dragging the name of Dalai lamba only for publicity.We dont know about Lambas eating habbits
Re: Re: But DL is NOT a Hindu!
by Ram Sharma on Sep 15, 2009 12:03 PM
Mr. Rakesh, You are right,Karan Singh, scion of the family that ruled J&K before the partition is indeed a Dogra! However, the fact remains that most of the kashmiri Pandits, unlike majoprity of the Pandits in other parts of India, are non veg.
