It is surprising that no news itme is mentioning a fact about the life of this hero viz that he was a convert and that he was the man of the christinty and not of the masses as declared in in this article.
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by Rationalist on Sep 03, 2009 09:20 PM
Exactly. I was also looking for the same detail that when did he convert to Xtian slavery.
Shame that a helicopter loses contact for a distance of 18km before it's crash and still control centre does not have any signs of what was happening, which just sits dumb in capital city...Pity that it took 24 hours to even locate the spot.
India still greases addressing it's basic needs of Food, Housing(or Security) and Clothing, while a lot of talk goes on India being the next big gaint.
When a leader spanning a 30 year political career cannot be saved for the reasons of technical glitches, our beloved democracy continues to get crippled with accidents. And we continue to leave the destiny of our country to fate.
Hell with the rogues in Indian Administration stuffed with bunch of outdated oldies who neither have any zeal to learn new technology nor passion to contribute in democracy. Enough of these so called technical administrators (or IAS, IES, whoever..) simply passing the blame on political leaders.
Never it happens that a leader (a charismatic person) will emerge unless he gains support of people. Needless to prove time and again that they have made significant contributions, while sailing alongside the trouble makers (who ofcourse will be there everywhere).
AP definetely has lost a contributor, which even made Chandra Babu to rethink on agriculture.
Re: Shame on India's technical security apparatus!!!
by sam on Sep 03, 2009 08:37 PM
Don't cry, dear, his death a boon for democracy. He was one of the worst leaders AP can have. The goon, who always bullied. Now about crash, I am dead sure helicopter didnt crash, govt is trying to cover up. They dont want to be harsh on Naxalites.
Re: Shame on India's technical security apparatus!!!
by cheeky machhu on Sep 03, 2009 09:28 PM
ur great man.. good analysys.. txs for posting.. YSR is a great leader.. our indian govt employees are lazy n careless about their duty ..they didn't even traced how the chopper deviated 18 Km to east .. shame on our indian system..this all happend because of carelessness of the chopper control room employees..
Re: Shame on India's technical security apparatus!!!
by Jagdish Reddy on Sep 03, 2009 08:45 PM
Well said. Yes. It is amazing how they allowed him to travel such a long distane by a helicopter not actually meant for such travel.
We all do criticize our politicians in general.None are above such healthy/ unhealthy criticism. This incident once again confirms LIFE IS SHORT and so, our remaining politicians must correct their unholy acts aganist the masses. I sincerly convey my heartfelt condolence to the family YSR. Sivaproactive
YSR was a good CM and a good leader for Congress. However, I think he may have shown a soft corner to Christians by allowing conversion activities in Tirumala Tirupathi and allowing Churches to be constructed in the vivinity of Tirumala Temple. Conversion to Christianity was very High during his regime. Definitely, it is a great loss for Evangelists as for rest of AP people.
... don't make too much money by getting bribes and over-quoted contracts. Life is very small - try to help the general population to come out of poverty.
I personally met him when he came to my sister-in-law's wedding. He is very charismatic, I strongly believe he cared for the poor farmers. In Cuddapah, life is really tough for poor farmers as it is almost a desert unlike the coastal districts. It is also really hot. I also visited Pulivendula. As far as I remember, he runs a hospital there, they charge only a rupee for patients to get doctor;s consultation. This was long ago. Not sure, if he was still doing it. There is good and bad in everyone. I would like to remember him for the good he did for the poor farmers in AP as I come from a farmer's family.
Re: I personally met him. He is very charismatic.
by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 07:47 PM
man of masses traveled in copter. why can't every man in the mass can atleast have a cycle?
Re: Re: I personally met him. He is very charismatic.
by Jagdish Reddy on Sep 03, 2009 08:28 PM
To reach the masses. He was going there to talk to the farmer's to learn their needs. As a leader, it is part of your job. The cost of travelling by air is not too expensive compared to driving. It is cost of the helicopter that is high. But you can not avoid it, can you?
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by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 11:13 PM
are you going to buy me a helecopter? must be black money from YSR
Re: I personally met him. He is very charismatic.
by Rationalist on Sep 03, 2009 09:34 PM
These people know they have value till they have lots of poor masses. That is what Congress have learnt. The more you abuse, the more the people will vote them.
Re: I personally met him. He is very charismatic.
by messenger on Sep 03, 2009 07:41 PM
about 50,000 farmers committed suicide in AP during his rule, wonder why
Re: Re: I personally met him. He is very charismatic.
by lakshmi prashanth on Sep 03, 2009 08:35 PM
Now your name tells it all .MESSENGER OF MISINFORMATION.M.TECH From Bihar or UP???????
Re: Re: I personally met him. He is very charismatic.
by icshyderabad on Sep 03, 2009 07:48 PM
I dont know who is this idiot called messenger, always posts wrong information-
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by Jagdish Reddy on Sep 03, 2009 07:49 PM
Probably more would have died had he not the CM. Giving free electricity for the poor farmers was a good step. Giving rice for Rs2/- is also a good step (Continuation on NTR policy). You will understand if you are one of them. Getting rid off loan sharks, cancelling small loans based on the rains, all these all help. You do not see a poor farmer's postings on this website, right? Some people posting with hate at the time of death of someone, is not fair.
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by KRISHNAMURTHY V on Sep 03, 2009 08:59 PM
It is only because of our attitude to get everything free without having to work for it, that corrupt politicians like YSR, Karunanidhi and the like prosper. In gujarat power is not given free to the farmers. The Government facilitates them by increasing the water available and other inputs; so Gujarat has shown a tremendous year-on-year increase in agricultural production, highest in India( see article by Economist Swaminathan Ankleswar Iyer's article in Economic times). Moveover Farmers committed suicide because they had taken loans at exhorbitant rates of interest from the Loan sharks and not from the banks; and in the name of writing off of farmer's loans politicians looted money. No poor farmer benefited. So pls be fair when you comment. It is bad to talk ill of a person who is dead; but you cannot call him a saint too !
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by icshyderabad on Sep 03, 2009 07:55 PM
Mr Iyer, there was no good news at all from AP, only very bad and very very sad news. About TN you decide good or bad
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by KHANDE KRISHNA on Sep 03, 2009 09:59 PM
AP has good days ahead, Xian conversions, temple detructions may be stopped, more foriegn trips to minoirites on govt expense may be stopped.
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by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 08:02 PM
tell me how.. more ppl could have died? what was his responsibies as a CM? giving free stuff or make them stand on thier feet??
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by icshyderabad on Sep 03, 2009 08:12 PM
Put this question to every government irrespective of party, as to why they are giving subsidies on so many things, and why including you and me are enjoying the same atleast on petrol, diesel and cooking gas?
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by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 11:17 PM
may be you ar eenjoying the free stuff.. we are working class and our hard earned money goes in TAX that i never see any benefit. and i can have a open debate on it with you if you want. if you dare then lets have it.
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by Jagdish Reddy on Sep 03, 2009 08:13 PM
During the biggest Irish famine of last century, English decided not to provide free food, but make them work on extreme winter laying roads for food (potatoes), thousands died. That is how there are so many Irish in US. You need to be in a poor farmer's shoes to understand what they mean. These are the steps he followed for immediate relief. I think they are good steps. If you think of something better, why don't you post them? and also say how you want to achieve them.
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by icshyderabad on Sep 03, 2009 08:19 PM
Yes-most of the guys posting msgs are not from AP. And a few of them from are mostly from Hyderabad, who have no chance to witness the benefits reaching the poor and farmers in remote villages. I am also from Hyderabad, but my work is such that I visit villages, in all the regions of AP, and am a witness to the benefits(I am not eligible-so naturally don't get)received and enjoyed by the real needy.
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by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 11:18 PM
so you mean to say that those farmers who were honest and paying thier loan on time were fools??
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by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 08:01 PM
don't paise him becasue he was also a readdy.. reddy's are rich and it was those who haev the maximum land. sure you are not poor so afford to log in here and talk about the free stuff you were getting from a fellow reddy.
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by Jagdish Reddy on Sep 03, 2009 08:16 PM
I am not praising him!! that too because he is a reddy. I belong to intercast. I am proud of it. I knew it is going to come.
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by icshyderabad on Sep 03, 2009 08:14 PM
You seem to be totally biased. I am not a Reddy, nor poor-but I am all praise for YSR. I have seen the benefits enjoyed by them, and you think the population of Andhra are mass-dumb to elect him for second time-inspite of all other parties forming grand alliance, and telengana sentiment against him.
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by tatvamasi on Sep 03, 2009 09:13 PM
He might have done some good deeds for few people at the cost of many others suffured from his corruption practises. By the way he only got 30 % of votes, not even close to half of the total votes. I don't know when people wud come out of their own nut shell and see the truth as it is from a broader perspective. BTW, i am from AP and Hyd and know many from rural Telangana. He own because of Andhraites feared they might lose Hyderabad and voted for him even though they like Babu more..
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by icshyderabad on Sep 03, 2009 09:35 PM
tatvamasi-tamari tatvam masi. If ppl i.e., the andhrites in hyderabad vote for him for the fear of loosing Hyderabad, how congress got seats in Karimnagar, Adilabad etc., Telangana hotbeds?
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by Arun on Sep 03, 2009 08:34 PM
then probably you are a christian(i am not against christians.I have same respect for JESUS as I repect Hindu GODS)...or may be you are a part of his corruption...YSR is the man who who increased the prices in HYD and now no middle class people can buy a home...even the people who are praising him know what a corrupt person he is ......i accept he help farmers by giving free power and helped poor by giving 2 kg rice...but history also remembers him as corrupt politician and also a factionist....atleast the families of the peoplw whom he killed will remember him as a factionist and the families who benifited from his corruption will remember him as a corrupt politician
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by icshyderabad on Sep 03, 2009 08:50 PM
in which euphoric world are you living? There is some thing called frog in the well. You seem to be locked up within your four walls. The prices of toor daal are at the same high everywhere in India. Sona masoori/ponni etc have become so costly everywhere in south. Vegetables-the rates-visit Malleswaram in Bangalore and compare(supposed to be cheaper than everywhere-high comparatively-to that particular place's normalcy). People are not able houses-not only in Hyderabad, everywhere-and this is the reason why even Unitech, DLF are suffering a lot in Delhi, Gurgaon etc., Open your eyes, and just dont post msgs, for the sake of msgs. Finally I am not a christian, nor a Reddy
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by Arun on Sep 03, 2009 08:36 PM
CORRECTION: NO MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLW CANN'T BUY A HOME
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by Arun on Sep 03, 2009 09:42 PM
His actions increased the prices of land in HYD...and you support him because the prices of land in other is also very high...he sold almost every GOVT land in HYD and many places...i remember when YSR asked HUDA to sell a land in jubliee hills, an IAS officer argued him not to sell that land as there no more givt land in that area and GOVT need that land for setting offices...but still that land was sold to real estate people..and now Mr.icshyderabad supports this action saying YSR used that moeny he got from selling the land to give free power and 2kg rice....
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by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 11:21 PM
i have seen how votes were bought for 600-700 Rs per vote. it was all over on interent and even rediff had interviewed those got money. Now AP Ppl.. so high on themseves won't able to digest that they are core to currept and prasing a guy who was currept
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by Loknath Rao on Sep 03, 2009 10:33 PM
you farmers get everything for free. Whose pop's money you think you are geting. As long as these politicians dont come out this farmer pleasing business.. this country forever would remain poor and would someday be bombed by pakistan. The best decisions would be to have law to let only graduates and above vote the govt and then see the tamasha.
My condolences to the family members, the death was tragic, regrettable.
But I will not agree about people making him a martyr saying that we lost a GREAT leader. Sorry, AP became the most corrupt state under his rule, it seems noone can even estimate the wealth he has amassed, he is supposed to be one of richest having millions or even billions with properties stacked everywhere including abroad. For all the money they swallow by becoming leaders, I do not want grieve at his death, but as a human being, yes, very sorry that someone had to die in this tragic manner.
His smile pays more attention and his foot prints shows .. Tommorow our andhrapradesh become one of the biggest State... Really we all salute last long.
Guys, I can understand someone faulting CM but it is not good to bash Christians in general. Some people may try to convert and stuff but Christians in general are really peaceful and do not resort to any violence. They always believe in helping everyone irrespective of religion. I am a Hindu but I have had instances of getting helped in unknown places by unknown people, both the times by some church fathers (I don't know whether it is a coincidence or not). That does not mean that I will convert into a Christian. But, as a true Hindu, I love and respect all religions. May peace prevail !!!!
Re: Re: It is one thing to fault the CM but ...
by Patriot on Sep 03, 2009 07:39 PM
Mr Bishwnath (Non Practical Indian) please understand why the North East folks got converted. They were untouchables as Tribals and not allowed to participate in any social activities where the Hindu upper caste existed. They were not allowed to enter Temples and given any respect. This is the main reason the Church took advantage and converted them. What has RSS done to educate Scheduled Caste, Tribals in the 1930's and 40's? Now BJP exists from 1960's or from 1970's and what have they done until recently they have started calling for inclusiveness. Suddenly everyone has become a Hindu. First learn something - the Tribals and Scheduled Caste people have to put something in Religion and they say we are "Hindus". If they have to really feel they are Hindus, the Upper caste people will need to look deep into the sins of the paste and change their attitude. Don't blame Church and Pakistan and China for all your problems.
Re: It is one thing to fault the CM but ...
by sudeep on Sep 03, 2009 07:50 PM
that only tells that where ever you go.. you invite touble and somebody has to come up to rescue you.
