I am happy and sad at the political events since last 2 years, when Congress seems to be gaining in almost every state. I am happy because it shows the Indian people voting for stability. It bestows a great responsibility on Congress to undertake massive development work now, that they have a clear mandate from the people. There can be ZERO excuses now. I am also happy to see the rout of regional parties like SP, BSP etc. Ofcourse I am delighted to see the near extinction of CPI and CPM. There could be no more patriotic duty that to defeat these parties, that's my view ! I am sad, because, one party dominance isnt good for a democracy. We need 2 strong parties - one ruling and one in opposition. BJP has completely lost it. I am (or was) a BJP supporter, but not onw. I mean, support them for what? Advani,Rajnath have screwed up big time. The other thing which worries me is - are we going back to Indira G times? When she ruled, and corruption grew? When Rahul G stands for PM, what would the indian electorate do? Die to vote for him? Just as we did for Indira, and now know what it did to our country? That scares me. Power corrupts, and absolute power, absolute corrupts! Let's see what happens from here. BJP can wake up and improve, or get extinct.
Re: Re: The good and bad
by Analysis on Oct 22, 2009 04:46 PM
In the national elections earlier this year, and that makes me extremely happy, because I just dont like Mulayam, Amar Singh and Maya trio.
Re: The good and bad
by arif raza on Oct 22, 2009 04:40 PM
GIVE ME ONE NAME WHO IS NOT CORRUPT IN India Except for G R Khairnar.Though I am not supporting Congi.
Re: Re: The good and bad
by Analysis on Oct 22, 2009 04:54 PM
Btw, MMS and ABV were not corrupt. MMS is not corrupt, but just not a good leader. With this much mandate, anyone should be bold enough for masive reforms in Indian systems - starting with Administrative and Police departments. There is stil no vision for the country, no big ticket reforms - economic or administrative, and that just saddens me. If they cant do with this mandate, what else do they expect?
Re: Re: The good and bad
by Analysis on Oct 22, 2009 04:50 PM
When the PM gets corrupt, or supports misuse of power (like Indira did), it percolates to corruption to every level down. That's what happened when she was the PM. It is a known fact that it was I.G's time that Indians got into corruption, big time. All governemnt departments became curupt, because they saw the misuse of power at top, and knew that was a green signal to be corrupt, as long as you can be loyal to the bosses. We have never been able to come out of it. She was however, atleast intelligent. With the coming of Kesari and VP SIngh's and the great sleeper (forgot his name- from Karnataka), we had not only a corrupt system, but foolish PM's too. And that doomed us for good 15 years, when we lost the race to CHina !
Re: The good and bad
by Rishi Dhar on Oct 22, 2009 04:42 PM
I fail to understand when every blogger here does not like congess how come they sweeping election after election.
Re: Re: Re: The good and bad
by BEN on Oct 22, 2009 04:57 PM
Shame on you. No faith in democracy. Why go and vote if after results you find fault with Electral System ?
Re: Re: Re: The good and bad
by Rishi Dhar on Oct 22, 2009 04:52 PM
I don't think that is true necessarily.I guess congress is still riding the wave of economic boom that was existant pre 2008.I guess people percieve that congress created hapiness.Look at India now there was a time during 1980's when students with degrees didn't get a job.I had seen people with MSc working as peons in government services.Things have changed a lot since then. "A" level education 12th pass with good english skills can get a job for 15,000 easily.Politicians understand that they can't take people for a ride.Bihar is a classic example where people voted for governance and routed laloo.We have far to go because people like sharad pawar and Maya enjoy power still.
Re: Re: The good and bad
by JGN on Oct 22, 2009 04:58 PM
BJP is not a party of masses. To win elctions, the party has to reach to common people of India and not bloggers.
Re: Re: Re: The good and bad
by Rishi Dhar on Oct 22, 2009 05:02 PM
You are implying the same thing only congress bashers accumulate here.I mean bloggers are after all common people.I presume they fgo out and vote"Innit".The opinions of bloggers can some way reflect the opinion of their families and so on and so forth
Re: Re: Re: The good and bad
by Rishi Dhar on Oct 22, 2009 04:57 PM
Well it gives you a sample size dosen't it?. In other ways you mean that all congress bashing people accumulate on rediff
Re: Re: Re: Re: The good and bad
by Analysis on Oct 22, 2009 05:01 PM
A sample that miniscule doesnot count for any statistical significance. Second, are all bloggers on rediff 'congress bashers'? I dont know. But its known to pretty everyone, that educated masses tended to be pro-BJP in earlier days, and neutral or Congress leaning nowdays. Because BJP failed to deliver on any thing substantial in last 6 years. So, some one like me, who did not like Congress and was a BJP supporter, has no option, but to either not vote, or vote for Congress. So I become a pseudo Congress supporter
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The good and bad
by Rishi Dhar on Oct 22, 2009 05:07 PM
I guess you are right.I was just looking for atrend here.I think I may have one of the reasons why this is happening.You admitted you won't vote.So those people who don't like congress don't come out to vote.Minorties and other sections of the people do vote in large numbers.As far as delivering is concerned,I don't know who has delivered so far in India.India is being steered by God.You can't say congress delivered thats why they are enjoying the public support
Re: Congress!!!!!!
by aishwarya patil on Oct 22, 2009 04:49 PM
Hai Anurag. You interested in politics too? I though your sole concern was Roger Federer. Do not blame Congress for reservations. It was AB Vajpayee who introduced reservations in promotions. When it comes to reservations, every party is worse than the others.
Re: Congress!!!!!!
by madan menon on Oct 22, 2009 04:35 PM
MAY be, atleast there is democracy in India (although not perfect), you can't say the same about communist China or taliban ruled pokistan...
Re: Re: Congress!!!!!!
by Anurag Rathore on Oct 22, 2009 04:40 PM
Congress is the root of reservation. Thats why we are seeing Bihari VS Marathi, Gurjar VS Meena, Hindu VS Musalman etc.
Re: Congress!!!!!!
by aishwarya patil on Oct 22, 2009 04:49 PM
Hai Anurag. You interested in politics too? I though your sole concern was Roger Federer. Do not blame Congress for reservations. It was AB Vajpayee who introduced reservations in promotions. When it comes to reservations, every party is worse than the others.
With this kind of defeat I doubt congress will have any opposition in India. I think BJP needs to park its old blood and pump fresh blood into the system before they become an endangered party
BJP tried to come to power on the Hindutva plank divided and rule based on caste and religion, and finally inciting communal violence. BJP is the reason for muslim terrorism in India,BJP need muslim terrorism to expolit the reglious feelings of majority innocent and good Hindus,BUT INTELLIGENT HINDUS VOTTED BJP OUT OF POWER AND THAT IS THE POWER OF GREAT INDIAN DEMOCRACY.
Re: HATS OFF MAHA
by strangers corners on Oct 22, 2009 04:46 PM
You are wrong. Intelligent and educated people always vote for BJP. All illiterate people, and religious people are now voting for Congress and other regional parties for sake of getting Money from Congress, so that Congress can rule this country by divide and rule policy.
Re: CHautala - next cm in Haryana
by madan menon on Oct 22, 2009 04:40 PM
forty seats and only six short..they can buy independents.by paying a price...
