Even I was itching to bomb atleast the house of Daood Ibrahim after 26/11. and was very disappointed that the govt didnt do anything! But on hindsight I can see why.
First we have to understand why the Taliban wanted to target us. They are under severe pressure in the northern province of pakistan. US is targeting them from Afganisthan. and Pakisthan army is forced to go on offense by US pressure. so they wanted a distraction. If we had counter attacked all the Jihadis would have united and pakisthan will draw that excuse to bring its troops back to our border. and that'd give the taliban a leeway.
The growth rate of 8% was not something that happened overnight. Its due to the efforts of more than a decade. whilst it'll only take a couple of hours to destroy a house it takes years to build one!
to make the story easy think like this. theres a race and prokis and we are participating. by the time the race is half way they are trailing far behind. now that they know that they wont win it they stopped running and has started throwing stone from there. of course we can run back and hit the shit out of them like we did in all the wars we had with them. but then they'll be happy that we join them in the loosers list :D
wish i was in Indian air force,, rather i would have bombed the pakis with out even bothering to take permission form the coward Govt or my seniors... its better to die once rather than to die everyday
Though it is true, most would like to avoid war, it is however with the thought of the suffering, bloodshed, deaths, etc. Unfortunately the Indian Political leadership avoids war because most of them are criminals, people related to politicians, males, all afraid of taking a stand for fear of loss of personal gain. What this country needs is MEN. We do have such men in our armed forces, The Army, Navy & Airforce. At one time I would truly like to see these forces play a very active role in the management of this amazing country. One can learn about leadership from even the frontline soldier. He takes decisions given his situation keeping the country above self. Presently, what is happening, is quite the reverse with Indian politicians. Ever one is concerned with image of self. While the armed force MAN sees only the country, and decides what is to be done. And does it. Indian leadership is paralysed into INACTION when personal gain is not evident. I salute our Armed forces. They are respected the world over. Obviously the same is not said of the Indian Politician.
Re: I Respect the Indan Armed Force Leadership as Leadership in t
by paki mullah on Nov 17, 2009 08:16 PM
well said man, we are ruled by impotents!!!!!!!!!!!!
It indeed was a wise decision as Mullahs are fighting themselves now. If there was a war all these jihadi grops could have united and fought against India. Let these mullahs fight and destroy themselves. They love that too, death and destruction..everyday somewhere or the other bombs are exploding in porkland and the moment the name of porkland is taken, first thing that comes into mind of foreigners except mullahs is that the land which is mullahs heaven and a strictly NoGo zone. We can just watch it and enjoy it.
Re: It was a wise decision
by INDIA on Dec 05, 2010 12:49 PM
Mr Asif,, now think the reasons why hindus have to fight back in our country,, gujrat riots happened only because it was triggered by burning the train. we are been attaced everyday in our own country then we too have the right give a fitting reply,, remember once the third eye of the hindus open than there will be no other religion in India
Re: It was a wise decision
by Angad on Nov 17, 2009 10:49 AM
Where ever fundamentalist muslims are present,there is a problem .Fewww exampless are Libya ,Pakistan,Somaliya,Iran,Iraq,Lebanon,Chinese Uighur Muslims and Mumbai attack/Parliment attacks.All related to particular people believing in violence in the name of Jihad.
Why two countries pakistan and india, As on early days there is only one and we want one nation with out any war.... only peace is needed. With all problems like Global Warming, Water Scarcity etc., is this war needed... If one country is there, no problem. We want to struggle to get back our nation. only they we can lead a good life.. Many countries support pakistan because they do have a jelous of india becomming more developed nation. We should show our power of unity to get our nation back
Re: WHY TWO COUNTRIES ONLY ONE NEEDED
by BhejaFry Bhushan on Nov 17, 2009 10:34 AM
Ok. I'll tell both the govt. to make it one country. Will you be available to participate in the discussions between two govt. Wud u like to invite Obama or Mumaith khan or some one? or u r busy?
As per the words of our Air Chief Retd. India attacking Pakistan after 26/11. As he rightly said, Our Govt. has not made up its mind to go for all out war on Pakistan. The same situation was there when the same terrorist grou has attacked the Indian Parliament. The irony of these situations are that both the times the Govt. was not prepared to risk a war with Pakistan. It is becuase, we were ruled by people who are in their 70's and who are more worried about their seat than the Country. They put their interest as the top priority than risking a war. Because of this, we are indirectly dictated by some foreign powers. See, the US of A, inspite of it knowing that the terrorists are in hand and glove with Pakistan, they are giving all the possible support to the Pakistanis, why? There is no answer. At least now, lets us fight our own battles. What is good to one is bad to others, this is the Universal Truth. Let us not forget our Dharma. Please, leaders of the Nation, awake and respond to the reality.
Re: After 26/11
by Asif Ali on Nov 23, 2009 03:28 PM
Prasad, Majors statement is fair at his place, coz, he don't know the expenses of wars, mainly lives, he didn't go on sky, his pilots, who have families. Just to fulfil the hatred of some peoples, huge loss of wealth and lives of nation is not fair. Present govt have good policy on terrorism, we not only external, but victims of internal terrorism too, like 6/12, godhra, post godhra, madgaon goa and malegaon.
Major must took lesson for what US did with iraq and afghan, But Major must know, that US never fought any war from US Land. We are surrounded by 3 nations, Pak, China and Nepal, we have dispute with 2 out of 3, hence, we must think of impact, if 2 enemies joins together. Militory people can't rule, we have many example of their failure, pakistan is the best example.
Secondly, for 10 terrorists, how fair to kill thousands innocents ? Can major work this out ?
Re: After 26/11
by SAURABH SINGH on Nov 17, 2009 10:37 AM
prasad do remember that ours is a napunsak sarkar !!! so what else can we expect.
i suppose its better to clear off things once & for all but due to power lust by our politicians & votebank we keep dragging little things to such an extent that it changes to major problems.
forget about others if we have guts & brain (chanyakya) we can even screw USof A on its own soil.
we meed WILL. not words from our so called leaders !!!
Re: Re: After 26/11
by Asif Ali on Nov 23, 2009 03:39 PM
sau even if you be in center, you can't do what you are saying. its not so easy, Remember NDA was rulling, how they leave terrorist and paid huge fund ? what you say on that ?
then who remains in politics ?
present sarkar is the best, if you compair to NDA or leftists or laloo and mulayam.
BJP have no gut to manage nation, they know nothing, other than destroy the nation. And presently they have no leader.
Present government has best brains that any Indian govt. saw.Politicians were always corrupt.I am not talking abt the corruption here. War is never a solution. Nothing ever was achieved with a WAR, at least when compared to the loss of a WAR. Can you tell me what did we achieve in the wars with Chinese or Pak? Its easy to talk about war sitting in your ac room. Think of the families of armed forces. Its not a brave idea to go for war in the modern world, but stupidity. Americans are still cursing their decisions.
Re: Really?
by vijaya govil on Nov 17, 2009 04:12 PM
War is an extension of our foreign policy objectives and plays a mighty role in achievements of national goals. As far as gains of 1947 Kashmir war are concerned,it was not due to the fault of the Armed Forces,but due to Nehru's total inapptitude that we lost what was won on the battlefield,and in the bargain lost half of Kashmir. 1962 was again the handiwork of Nehru and Krishna Menon,the blood of the soldier was shed in vain.Tibet was annexed by the Chinese and such loot was accepted by Nehru,and today they claim vast territories of Arunachal and elsewhere alo9ng the borders.Aksaichin was lost when Nehru did not even know about it till the Chinese had constructed a long road.In 1965 all gains on the Front were lost due to the Tashkent Agreement done against the will of Lal Bahadur Shastri,and of course it was very convenient to silence him,so that the keepers of the Congress Party responsible for it were never exposed. The massive gains of 1971 war were squandered away by the Congress Government of Mrs. Gandhi,Why and how and under whose pressure we will never know. IPKF and Blue Star again Congress party's work boomeranged on the Nation.It is high time that the Armed Forces demand a greater say in the policy formulation at least whenever the Congress Govts are in Power and avoid shedding the priceless blood of the soldiers for the sake of these Congresswalas and their corrupt handmaidens the IAS
Re: Really?
by Umesh Sharma on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 AM
bheja fry, by yr logic why hv armed forces at all?there is a saying attack is best form of defence, historicaly it has been proved that any nation that has to survive has to put the fear in others abt eyeing its territory and populace, knowing fully well that we are constantly being targetted by the pak backed insurgents on the borders and in cities, what msg are we sending to the world? that we wud rather sit back and talk peace than take any action against the nation who is responsible for the attacks. do you think we can prosper economicaly in atmosphere of fear? the best example is isreaal, they are surrounded by enemies, but they put the fear of god in these arabs before any one even remotely thinks of attacking their country by insurgency or terrorist attacks, if they follow yr principals then they wud hv been finished by now. yes it is true we need not go to war to acquire land, but to protect our own we definitely need war, if india had launched a surprise attack we cud hv done considerable damage to pak. well it is now history and we hv lost a golden opportunity, diplomaticaly we are a failure compared to pak, and they are more astute politicians and babus than ours. we are a whinpering nation and believe in only issuing statements from north block that we will talk only if pak takes action, which, it will never. so lets sit bak on our backsides and watch the game while intnl community gives all the aid to pak for being a victim and only sympathy to india.
Re: Re: Really?
by BhejaFry Bhushan on Nov 18, 2009 01:05 PM
Agreed. But I really do not know how we can compare Israel and India. There is a huge difference. Do you know why Israel can put fear in the arabs? Its not just because of Israel armed forces. But because of its strategic alliance with the west and Europe. If they were like India without any alliance, they would have finished by now. Coming to the point of why we need armed forces.. War is the final solution. In the modern world no one is afraid of war and everyone is concerned abt the nukes. No one have the guts to go war with a nuke nation. War is barbarian because it is started by some pathetic soul and loss for someone else.
Re: Re: Re: Really?
by Asif Ali on Nov 23, 2009 03:48 PM
bheha right, but on Israel, you can't compair India-n-Israel, Israel beloved for you people because they are killing Muslims. otherwise, read history, they are only reason of wars. India always peaceful nation, israel since its formation just killing innocents.
and yes israel have huge help from usa and europe, there must be reason behind, lets see: 1. UK/USA/EU had huge numbers of jews, and they scrued up the economy, hence, these nations helped them to have their own land, and shifted to israel.
2. AS SAURAV said, we can screw up US on their soil - JEWS did the same- USA media, Finance, Defence being controled by jews ! We are huge indians in US, what we do ?
Re: Really?
by Abhijit Nimkar on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 AM
You are right, war is not the solution. But we cant just keep on ignoring Pakistan, we need to give them back what they r giving us ... we cant just be a spectator & allow them to carry on with terrorist activities in India....
Re: Re: Really?
by BhejaFry Bhushan on Nov 18, 2009 01:09 PM
Give them same what they are giving us. We do not need to waste our precious armed forces. We need them for china. Pak doesn't need our forces. Even a strong diplomatic route can shut it up. But the question is WHO will give that strong reply? We need a leader with spine...
Re: Re: Really?
by Abhijit Nimkar on Nov 17, 2009 10:43 AM
Umesh, You are right that we are a failure diplomatically. I wonder if there is anybody in the Govt who gives a serious thought to diplomacy, plan & act accordingly. Also before going to war, we need to think & plan meticulously as India has lots to loose if gone to war & Pak has nothing to loose, they r already facing a war like situation in their country ...
