SO THEY ARE NO THREAT and there be no Dalit PM after conversion!!!
You want to convert Dalits like you R converting the loose and easy punjabi women such as Malika Arora Khan, her sister, etc. Aamirs third wife(brahmin), Shahrukh wife.
Let us not talk about india hating hindus refugees from pakistan partition. And the missionary increase during congress rule.
DUE TO ALL THIS FASSAD > Beware of Dalit Moslims and Dalit Chrustian who are now opting out and many have taken to Buddism and cetain non-caste and non-violent sects within Hinduism!!!
So beware of what your people did by Denying Dalit PM and now Congress-bjp nexus wants to split Dalit votes by Meira Kumar and try to make her a puppet like MMS.
Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by Amakant Chaudhary on Jun 12, 2009 09:25 AM
IS this about Australia? I'm confused though much less than you.
Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by D S on Jun 12, 2009 09:34 AM
Source radical venom behavior of Labense in Ozzie And the venom spreads both ways i.e from Labenese to Ozzie radical and from Ozzie to Labenese radical.
Thus gives respite to Ozzie who hate Jihadis, let them be directed to India.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by tajender on Jun 12, 2009 11:09 AM
Source radical venom behavior of Labense in Ozzie And the venom spreads both ways i.e from Labenese to Ozzie radical and from Ozzie to Labenese radical
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 11:12 AM
hehe.. porki coming up with new conspiracy theories.... go begging porki..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by deep dar on Jun 12, 2009 10:03 AM
DS: Are you really discussing intellectual stuff with a moozlem Jawed??? Don't u know that they suffer from a syndrome called "closed minds"???
now this is such good moment for me to spit on those too much brainy secular indian youth , who would like to sport a kafeeya. do you guys know what you are doing? palestininans never deserved our support, go to the GCC countries and get a feeler of how these arabic lebanese , palestininas, egyptians, etc etc think of us. we are something dirty to them and you small brains sport a kafeeya..?
Middle east guys also go far for education. But they are more concerned with their'enjoyment' than studies. As such they are always short of money. Hence the looting.
This experience is also shared by Indian students in Germany, Russia, also.
Jawed, again the same radical behavior in different form by using DALIT CARD!!! you know Dalits PM was denied by Muslim by voting blindly for congress.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by D S on Jun 12, 2009 08:47 AM
why radicalize???we indians are fine with non-violent/chilled/easy non-radical/non-fake indian person like Shamu, Ramu, Gangu, Pyaree???
Why be so uptight and brain jammed/tight radical?
NO MOVIE ACTORS WITH FAKE INDIAN NAMES AND driven DISRUPTIVE and subversive CAUSE
Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by J Chandrasekhar on Jun 12, 2009 08:47 AM
Jawed, I tried to answer you but my mesages has been vanished thanks to the moderator
Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 08:43 AM
Is that supposed to be a Joke ..ever heard of a Mus_lim denying entry to anyone because he is a Da_lit ?? By the way I was responding to the post .
Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 08:44 AM
Is that supposed to be a Joke ..ever heard of a Mus_lim denying entry to anyone into a Mosque because he is a Da_lit ?? By the way I was responding to the post
Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by D S on Jun 12, 2009 08:52 AM
very dubious characters have you produced, especially those initial invaders and convertors.
They even used to bring their partners from outside because their KHUUN was pure. For them, upper caste women were more pure than dalits.
Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 08:53 AM
well ive heard a good habit of bombing each other like shia and sunni..... the dalit stuff... exists only in villages and other far flung places but not in cities.... but shias sunnis bombing which kill up to 40 people happens only in u r religion... u r talking as if there are no castes in islam? havent u heard about the persecution of ahmediyas?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 09:02 AM
The word Shia /Sunni does not exist in the Quran .. Both shias and sunnis live peacefully in Saudi Arabia , Bahrain , Lebanon , Kuwait , syria .. Even in Iraq - there were no bombings before occupation ..Pakistan is in mess and no one knows who is doing what ..their leader is called Mr.10 % because of the cut that he takes .. btw let me update you - the villagers of the village where the mosque was bombed have raided the terrorist hideouts .. Please let me know what "castes" you came accross in the Quran ..which is the basis of Isl_am .. And yes FYI - Shias , sunnis , ahmediyas , bohras go to the same place Mecca for pilgrimage .. and no one questions which sect they belong to ..
Shias / sunnis are not castes .. they are sects with different schools of thought ..but no one claims superiority over one another
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 09:29 AM
"And fight in the way of All_ah those who fight you. But do not transgress the limits. Truly All_ah loves not the transgressors" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 2, Verse 190.
"...If anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or to spread mischief in the land, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind. And (likewise) if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole of mankind" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 5, Verse 32.
"There is no compulsion in religion. The right path has indeed become distinct from the wrong. So whoever rejects false worship and believes in All_ah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All Hearing, All Knowing" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 2, Verese 256.
"And what is the matter with you that you do not fight in the cause of All_ah and for those weak, ill treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is; 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors and raise for us from you one who will protect and raise for us from you one who will help"' The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 4, Verse 75.
All_ah means "The God" in Arabic and is not a "Mu_slim God"
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:07 AM
who cares about superirority over each other... but bombing no matter what issue is defin8ly bad... dont give a 100 excuses... as to why it happens... y isnt u r kuran stopping them from bombing each other. after all u guyz keep talking and referring about kuran all the time.... dont bluff about shias and sunnis living peacefully in iraq... have u forgotten the genocides by saddam against the other group and there are so many other bombings even at that time... in porkistan there is no occupation.. they have been bombing they are bombing and they will keep bombing each other..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:25 AM
@jawed.. in the same way as u quoted from quran i can also quote from bhagavat geeta about caste problems... and i can say how badly it is being misinterpreted...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by tajender on Jun 12, 2009 09:57 AM
@jawed.. the genocide by saddam is true... i dont remember whether that saddm is a shia or a sunni..
jawed genocide by saddam was fabrucate by media like weapon of mass destruction.gas on kurd was like as post-mortem report indicated the gas which was supplied by west to isreal&iran. saddam was strict ruler. everytype of bribe was offered to him but he preferred to die.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by D S on Jun 12, 2009 09:18 AM
VERY MUCH of old time BRAHMIN KIND OF TALK, the ones who were as bad as the Nawabs and Imams of old time. THE OLD TIME BRAHMINS WERE AS WICKED AS THE OLD TIME IMAMS, no difference. Just the method used by Imams to find defects in other faith were new.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 09:22 AM
@Dudhere : Read my post again .. I am not giving excuses ..I am stating facts ..If a Brahmin Nathuram godsey went and killed Gandhi - can we assume that he did it because of the teachings of Hin_du scriptures and all Brahmins are terrorists ?? Quran is the word of God ..and it clearly states if anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or for villainy in the land, it would be as if they killed the whole of humanity. And if anyone saved a life, it would be as if they saved the whole of humanity. (The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 5, Verse 32)
Medicine is a noble profession - but there are some doctors who sell kidneys .. so do you blame the doctors or the profession of medicine .. You and I do not know what actually happened in Iraq ...there were many claims made including Weapons of Mass Destruction .. And BTW ..Is_lam is what is there in Quran ..not what Saddam or XYZ does or does not do .. Keep in mind that Pakistan is only one of the 60 odd Mus_lim countries .. Shia Iran is one of major supporters Sunni Palestine .
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:10 AM
besides y dont u talk about the great gift u r religion has given to teh world? "jihad"
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jawed, again the same radical behavior in
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:28 AM
@jawed.. the genocide by saddam is true... i dont remember whether that saddm is a shia or a sunni.. but when the opposite sect tried to excute him.. he went at an all out war at the opposite side.. its a fact... one thing i dont get is y isnt u r religion so intolerant towards other religion.. y do u need a separate izlamic state? y not coexist with others... now in thailand also the muzzies started to fight for their islamic state...
And Mr.Chandrasekhar .. Brahmins and upper caste Hin_dus can teach a thing or two when it comes to tormenting as the folowing headlines indicate :
---- Gautam (name changed) is a police constable in Satara’s Man taluka, but even he could not save his brother-in-law Madhukar Ghatge.
Ghatge (48), a Dalit farmer and a father of three, retired from the Railways a few years ago and moved home from Mumbai to farm on his family’s 5-acre plot here. He was murdered last week by upper-caste villagers who did not want him to dig a well on his own property.
It would have been the first well in Kulakjai village on land owned by a Dalit.
The police said Ghatge was hacked so violently that even the earth-moving machine he was using at the time was damaged.
‘They left him to die’
---
Telegraph news : NALIN VERMA Patna, Oct. 12: A Dalit who tried to offer prasad to a Durga idol was shot dead last night in Nalanda, Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar’s home district.
Karu Paswan, 41, was stopped by upper-caste men when he and fellow-Dalits in Jiyar village tried to make the offering.
This led to a clash between the two groups, during which the alleged assailant, Ratan Singh, fired from his gun.
Karu died on way to Patna Medical College Hospital, 110km away, Nalanda police chief Vijit Vinayak said. Two others were injured. Another police officer said Ratan was absconding.
And I don't need to remind you of what happened to Graham Stenies and his 2 kids
Re: @Chandrasekhar - who wrote Islam preaches terror
by Srinivas on Jun 12, 2009 08:31 AM
You are right brother, we forget that we Indians are shamelessly racists and lot worst than western racists. They don't like other people enjoying their jobs and infrastucture. But we Indians hate our neighbours, hate our classmates, marry within castes, treat low-castes like animals etc etc etc. Indians deserve to be trashed in other countries.
Re: @Chandrasekhar - who wrote Islam preaches terror
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 08:28 AM
And before you become an expert on Quran and Is_lam and tell others what it preaches and what it does not preach - it might be handy to read the Quran ..
O you who believe! Stand steadfast for All_ah as witnesses of justice, and let not the hatred of a people prevent you from justice towards them. (Nay!) be just: that is closer to piety. And fear All_ah! Verily, All_ah is well aware of what you do. (The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 5, Verse 8)
And if you punish (your oppressors), then punish them with the like of that which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for the patient ones. (The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 16, Verse 126)
And if you punish (your oppressors), then punish them with the like of that which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for the patient ones. (The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 16, Verse 126) All_ah means the God in Arabic ..and is not a "Mus_lim God"
Re: Re: Re: @Chandrasekhar - who wrote Islam preaches terror
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 09:44 AM
Mus_lims do need to reform .. they need to go back to the teachings of Quran .. Not a word of Quran has changed in 1400 hours years as mentioned in the Quran itself ..and not a word will change in the future .. But Mus_lims need to introspect and bring about reforms
Re: Re: @Chandrasekhar - who wrote Islam preaches terror
by J Chandrasekhar on Jun 12, 2009 08:45 AM
Mr.Jawed,
I am aware of the maladies in hindu religion but these are thing of past. Over several years there have been great reformers in this religion who contributed to reform the religion
Though the traces of caste abuse is there, it is made punishable as per the IPC. Several acts like anti dowry act, act against child marriage are all facts
Now is is the term of Islam to get this sort of treatment. Dont you think the elite muslims have to bring in changes in the religion that makes others comfortable to live with?
Also watch "20000 NBC" in you tube ..and incase you did not know anyone can make a movie and post it on the net ..
One has to only read your messages to get an idea of what you have "imbibed" over the years .. You also mentioned in your other post that Mus_lims only have jobs of janitors , tailors , barbers .. I can't change your upbringing ..the hate that has been instilled inside you has turned you into a tormented hate filled Brahmin who wants everything for himself ..and wants others to take up jobs of janitors , barbers , tailors ..
You know what - ATLEAST barbers , tailors and janitors atleast make an honest living by working hard to make two end meet ..Wish I could say same about hate filled Brahmins like you who are no more than 2 % of Indias population but make up majority of polity and bureuacracy .. They make money by dividing societies , by becoming temple trustees and devour the Dakhsina offered by vulnerable devotees .. Get an honest life !!
Re: @Bharat wasi
by yele on Jun 12, 2009 09:32 AM
jawd why you leave in India . we have offered Pakistan go there peacefully thre and stay with other islamic followers.
Re: Re: Re: @Bharat wasi
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 10:02 AM
everything u r saying is done not only in caste system in hinxooz but also within muzzies...
Re: Re: Re: @Bharat wasi
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:44 AM
atleast hindooz are ready to reform their religion... ahmediyas are being treated like the lower caste people in india in other countries.. the deicion to remain in india or out of it was taken not by brahmins.. but by muzzies who wont tolerate other religions... so that 20 % asked for a separate coutnry and they got it...
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Bharat wasi
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:51 AM
not only in pakistan.. everywhere the story is same... now in thailand where they are talking about having a separate izlamic state for the muzzies.... they are the only religious group which is so much intolerant about other religions....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Bharat wasi
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 10:17 AM
But I never heard of mobs killing and raping nuns and pregnant women in UAE , Saudi , Kuwait , Qatar , Oman ..and last time I checked - they were all Mus_lim countries .. Lets see
Tamil Hin_dus were fighting Budhist sinhaless for a separate homeland in Srilanka
Hind_us were fighting the Malaysia Govt for "injustices"
Hindu_s were fighting with local Fijis in Fiji
And I don't want to talk about Nepal an ex - Hin_du nation which is in a state of permanent turmoil
Learn to differentiate between religion and politics
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Bharat wasi
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 10:24 AM
its not tamil hindooz... coz there are xtians also that too in the top posts withing LTTE.. for e.g prabhakarans sons name is charles anthony and also there are many xtians withing them.. its about tamil cause
2. hinduuz where demonstrating against demollition of temples... but how many lives lost "0".. in india one babri masjid.. and thirst for blood has not yet gone from u r minds...
During the late 90's there were several riots against H!ndus by radical elements in Fiji. In the spring of 2000, the democratically elected Fijian government led by Prime Minister Mahendra Chaudhry was held hostage by a group headed by George Speight. They were demanding a segregated state exclusively for the native Fijians, thereby legally abolishing any rights the H!ndu inhabitants have. Several dozen H!ndu temples have been vandalized or destroyed by arson or looting.
The Methodist Church of Fiji called for the creation of a Chr!stian State and endorsed forceful conversion of H!ndus after a coup d'état in 1987.
yea true those countries where all muzlim countries havent heard kiling of pregnant ladies.. but i also havent heard about godhra type train burnings by hindooz or xtians there... what religious freedom do they have there? can they take any procession there? whether its hindooz or xtians?
These clashes are common with Lebanese guys. Remember the Cronulla beach clash between Aussies and Lebanese guys 3 years ago. Now they are targeting Indians in Sydney and Melbourne and Indian media is blaming Australians for that.
Re: Common stuff
by Rajendra Rao on Jun 12, 2009 08:07 AM
Why Lebanese? These guys are all into buying gas stations in USA to make money- quite harmless lot really.
Some times we have to introspect. Look at the Bangalore brothers Kabeel and Sabeel who tried to blow the Glasgow airport. This kind of behaviour will definitely bring disrepute to the nation. Religion is your private affair and if you want to make a dosplay of the religion and make a big dram with your dress, beard, actions etc, you will always get a 'special treatment'
Re: Behave
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 08:36 AM
Would be interesting to know if you hold the same opinion about Hi_ndu Fanatics bur_ning alive Graham Stenies and his two children .. or the rap_ing of nuns in Orissa and kil_ling of pre_gnant women in Gujarat
Re: Re: Behave
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:01 AM
if someone like staines goes and converts people in any izzlamic country.. the result would b even worse... and if something like godhra train burning happens by some minorities to muzlims in porkistan or any other izlamic country.. rest assured the entire minority community will b wiped out....
Re: Re: Re: Behave
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 09:50 AM
So you are actually saying that what happened to Graham staines ..is ok according to your moral values .. I see .. So as per the "Hindutva law" ..if someone comes and tries to convert he should be killed.. along with his children .. Thanks for sharing the RSS psyche with us ... And next time a Brahmin ( 2 % population )goes and kills a Dalit - I guess Dalits will be justified in wiping off the Brahmins .. according to your logic .. since Dalits make up 60 % of India ...and are in majority ...very interesting !!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Behave
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 09:55 AM
u r talking as though izlamic countries welcomes xtian converters and doesnt do anything about them... grahan staines like incidents happens in porkistan also.. only thing is its illegal to evangelize they will be shotdead or deported... and when did the question of brahmin killing dalits come inbetween? but its a sshame to hear about same sects of a same religion killing in numbers measuring upto 50 people... such a peaceful religion duh!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Behave
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 10:01 AM
Babasaheb Ambedkar was an illustrious figure in Indian politics and the chief architect of the Indian Constitution. He was extremely critical of the Muzzie Caste System and their practices, quoting that Within these groups there are castes with social precedence of exactly the same nature as one finds among the Hind00s. He was critical of how the Ashrafs regarded the Ajlaf and Arzal as worthless and the fact that Muzzies tried to sugarcoat the sectarian divisions by using euphemisms like brotherhood to describe them. He was also critical of the precept of literalism of scripture among Indian Muzzies that led them to keep the Muzzies Caste system rigid and discriminatory. He condemned the Indian Muzzie Community of being unable to reform like Muzzies in other countries like Turkey did during the early decades of the twentieth century
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Behave
by jawed on Jun 12, 2009 10:09 AM
I am challenging you to mention the castes mentioned in the Quran ..name just one ..
And also mention one incident where a "low caste Mus_lim" was denied entry into the mosque..
Pro_phet's last sermon : O People, listen to me in earnest, worship Al_lah, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. You know that every Mus_lim is the brother of another Mus_lim. YOU ARE ALL EQUAL. NOBODY HAS SUPERIORITY OVER OTHER EXCEPT BY PIETY AND GOOD ACTION. Remember, one day you will appear before All_ah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone. " Alla_h means the God in Arabic
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Behave
by dudehere on Jun 12, 2009 10:15 AM
i think i can give u a link where 1 sunni killed 50 shias in a mosque and other such peaceful incidents... if u dont know about caste sytem... go to google and type caste system in pakistan.... within taht page there is a link for caste system in south asian muzzies.. check that also...
and these across border people have instilled the radical disease in many Indians. THe spit Radical Muslims and radical Hindu messages.
The AMOUNT OF HATRED THAT PAKISTANI refugees instilled against the POOR NON-RADICAL HINDUS !!!
I have seen radical elements from across border act like Asli Indian or Asli Paki to PUSH HATE and radical MESSAGE!!!!Make indians radicalised.
Quite like how BJP was used by Congress to create radical air to snatch minority votes. Now they want to split Dalit votes.
Pakistanis are good a radical BEHAVIOR, look at some top brass of BJP and Congress from Pakistan. Look at radical terrorist from Pak, some like Kasad good a giving subversion messages.
WE SHOULD ALL FEEL PITY ABOUT THESE RADICALS.
LOOK AT HOW MUCH RADICALIsm that certain movies instill.
I hope there is SOME NON-VIOLENT CURE FOR THESE RADICALS
Re: Across the border people push radical Hindu and Muslims messa
by asli bharatwasi on Jun 12, 2009 06:29 AM
Why is it that only Hindoos talk about peace and tolerance? Why doesnt a Mullah ever take the initiative for peace and tolerance towards others faiths? I am sure you are also a Hindoo.
Re: Across the border people push radical Hindu and Muslims messa
by D S on Jun 12, 2009 06:56 AM
Ozzie can use RADICALIZED Labenese as their camouflage and Vice-versa.
It is the venom, any side can give to other and inflict pain on other.
East or West come back to India, kick the dynasty/bjp-conress and make India the best.
