Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by Bhajiya on Jul 25, 2009 10:06 AM
All evil forces will exist till judgement day. RSS is one among them scandlemongering organization who is spreading myths and false stories. Because evil promise god that he will induce man to end up in hell.
Re: Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by panduranga vittal on Jul 25, 2009 10:20 AM
mad man how you know that evil has got a structure to rpomises God. Is God so weak that he needs promise from evil. Can he not act himself. Where is hell mad man. Where is judjement day mad man. You can go on believing baseleess ly on so mant things and just like you RSS wil think that all the evil forces who think animals are cvreated By God for eating will also end up in hell. Mad man you can be under illusions and foolish thoughts. Remember that there are enough foolish people on the other side and they think that they are on the rightious path anjd you are on sindful path
Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:53 AM
Tajender, even the establishemnt of RSS was a reaction to the belligerance of Ali Brothers and his chamchas.
Re: Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by ashok bajpai on Jul 25, 2009 10:01 AM
ali brothers were freedom fighters secular follower of mahatama ghandhi. never against jind00 or any other race. they died 70yrs ago.
Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by Lucky B on Jul 25, 2009 09:53 AM
You guys still want to divide H1ndoos in upper and lower caste. Your rumor only can spread hate. Grow up man.
Re: Re: Re: Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 10:30 AM
Trendy,it is an article written by a Pakistani named "Anwar Sheikh". Search for "X-Rated Paradise of 1slam" by Anwar Sheikh.
Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by ashok bajpai on Jul 25, 2009 09:52 AM
This denial aimed at drawing the 'lower' castes behind the 'upper' castes, and to destroy 'lower' caste movements of protest against 'upper' caste hegemony. Accordingly, the plight of the 'lower' castes was sought to be explained away as a result of alleged Muzlim or Chr1stian 'persecution', while the 'jindu' period of history was glorified as a 'golden age'. In this rewriting of history, the oppression of the 'lower' castes that saw its genesis in the so-called 'golden age' was completely ignored. So, too, was the inconvenient fact that the oppression of the 'lower' castes is specifically mentioned and prescribed in all the Brahminical scriptures.
Re: Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by Lucky B on Jul 25, 2009 09:54 AM
Do you Gandhji went to RSS run camp which were having all type of Indians.
Since you know too much about RSS, can you please tell us what exactly Gandhiji told about RSS?
Re: Re: rss is new incarnation of brahaminism
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 10:03 AM
ashok bajpai, some "melchas" are even ashamed of their name as they know for sure that they are descandants of cowards who converted at the point of sword or at the pain of ra*pe!!
Re: RSS marinalisation is good for India
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:40 AM
vijay patel, you are right to some extent. The Right-wing H1ndu parties are also trying to organize the h1ndus on the lines of intolerant West Asian Re1igions. But the entire blame cannot be put at thier door steps.
The yoke of secularism cannot rest on the shoulders of one section of the society alone. We all have to strive for peace to prevail in our Country. If we follow the narrow re1igious agenda, our Country would resemble Afghanistan sooner than later.
The Missionaries should stop converting illiterate tribals/dalits in the name of non-existent g0ds and heaven and also the mus1ims have to stop ki11ing the kaf1rs for eatablishing their kaliphate.
Re: RSS marinalisation is good for India
by Libran on Jul 25, 2009 09:46 AM
RSS does not represent Hinduism. Hinduism is much bigger and complex. But to call it an extremist cult organization is completely wrong, baseless and bias especially without giving an iota of logical reasoning. RSS does not give bad name to Hinduism but many Hindus and Non-Hindus use this organizations as a scape goat to absolve themsleves of wrong doing.
I agree that survival of Hinduism does not depend solely upon RSS but dedication of RSS to Hinduism is unquestionable. It is like a Bhakta of God. The devotee does not represent God. Nor is God's presence depend on the devotee. Similarly the relationship between RSS and Hinduism. Finally, it is completely ignorant and arrogant to say that RSS is extremist and is a dirty path. The dirt is on your eye glasses sir, Please wipe it and you shall see the clear Deshbhakth image of RSS.
Re: RSS marinalisation is good for India
by ashok bajpai on Jul 25, 2009 09:44 AM
jThe Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) was established in 1925 by K.B.Hedgewar, a Maharashtrian Brahmin. Initially, almost all its members were Brahmins, and even today, its top level leaders are almost entirely from the 'upper' castes, particularly Brahmins. The RSS was founded at a time when Maharashtra was witnessing a powerful movement of revolt among the 'lower' castes against 'upper' caste tyranny led by such stalwarts as Mahatma Jotiba Phule and Dr. Ambedkar. The establishment of the RSS at this time was hardly coincidental. Rather, it is apparent that the rise of 'lower' caste consciousness and protest against 'upper' caste hegemony was a key factor in the setting up of the RSS. The spread of the RSS in other parts of the country can also be explained on similar lines. Feeling increasingly threatened by the growing awareness and militancy among the 'lower' castes, 'upper' caste leaders found in the ideology of jindutva a convenient way to co-opt the 'lower' castes and to divert their wrath from their real oppressors (the 'upper' castes/classes) onto imagined enemies in the form of Muzlims, Chr1stians and communists. By appealing to the notion of an imagined 'jindu nation' and 'jindu community', jindutva ideologues (almost all Brahmins) sought to deny the existence of internal caste and class contradictions among the so-called 'jindus'. This denial aimed at drawing the 'lower' castes behind the 'upper' castes, and to destroy 'lower' caste movements of protest against '
Re: Re: RSS marinalisation is good for India
by Libran on Jul 25, 2009 09:58 AM
Ashok, Your views are plain wrong. This is completely untrue. I had been to RSS Shakha in late 1980s till late 1990s before leaving for US. When going to Shakha, I had hidden my caste name (Even now I do). No one ever asked me which caste I am. I did not reveal. We had several sahabhojans, vanabhojans etc with memebers of various castes. What is surprising is that we had a couple of Muslims too (this was in late 80-s) attending Shakhas who later stopped coming due to pressure from their community against saying Vande Mataram!!
I would go to say, RSS is the only organization that has practically implemented programs to eradicate caste descrimination. It should be followed by all Hindus to remove the evils of casteism.
Re: Re: RSS marinalisation is good for India
by ashok bajpai on Jul 25, 2009 09:47 AM
This denial aimed at drawing the 'lower' castes behind the 'upper' castes, and to destroy 'lower' caste movements of protest against 'upper' caste hegemony. Accordingly, the plight of the 'lower' castes was sought to be explained away as a result of alleged Muzlim or Chr1stian 'persecution', while the 'jindu' period of history was glorified as a 'golden age'. In this rewriting of history, the oppression of the 'lower' castes that saw its genesis in the so-called 'golden age' was completely ignored. So, too, was the inconvenient fact that the oppression of the 'lower' castes is specifically mentioned and prescribed in all the Brahminical scriptures.
Re: RSS marinalisation is good for India
by Lucky B on Jul 25, 2009 09:37 AM
oh really??? How many blasts have been done by RSS/BJP? How many 26/11 type incident, Stock exchange bombing were done by them? You are one more blindly follower who do not try to find out truth.
Re: RSS.
by Umashanker Kapoor on Jul 25, 2009 09:26 AM
if the above steps are being undertaken by the RSS then why shud they worry if conversion to xtianity? they shud cater to all children irrespective of the religion of the children.
Re: Re: RSS.
by Trend setter on Jul 25, 2009 09:32 AM
well apparently they dont believe all children are created equal you see...some castes in India are above the rest according to them.
Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by Lucky B on Jul 25, 2009 09:33 AM
"According to them". Can you please show us any proof of your allegation. Where did you get stuffed into your brain?
Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:37 AM
Trendy, still no h1ndu will burtalize or convert the next fellow if he does not follow his re1igion!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by Trend setter on Jul 25, 2009 09:40 AM
Hindooism is a contradiction of sorts...If you are a brahmin you will not allow others to join you for that will make your position insecure.If you are not a brahmin then what caste will you ask the convert to join?>..you are still fighting against caste discrimination and what good thing will you show to the world about hindooism?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:44 AM
>>>Hindooism is a contradiction of sorts...and the West Asian re1igions are bl00d thirsty cults!!!!!!! 1slam is Arab imperialsm. The Arabs do not consider the mus1ims from the Indian sub-continent (Indian, Pak and Bangla) any better than the "dalits" in India!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:43 AM
Trendy, same way in which sect will you admit a dalit converted to 1salm? Sunnni, Shiiia, Dawoodi bohra, Ahmediya, 1slaeli, Ajlaf, Ashraf?
Re: Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:31 AM
Umashanker Kapoor, the worry about conversion is due to the fact that once a person converts, his loyalties change. Then they start swering their loyalty to the sands of Arabian or Vati_can. Those who convertd the natives of our Country into the intolerant West Asian Re1igions have achieved enormous success in their endeavour.
The avowed objective of the Missionaries any where in the world were to create hatred towards their native land and culture in the minds of con
Re: RSS.
by sivasubramanian on Jul 25, 2009 09:34 AM
Today money is the soul of all activities, If the resource die all will cease, See congress is growing because they looted the public money, BJP ruled six years with honesty,But when 1000 Rs note is shown all voters forget their policy temperarily, This what congress and DMK does,The communist failed just because of that,In india there few parties honest and sincere and patriotic one is BJP and next are Communists/AIADMK,All others are pucca frauds.
Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:28 AM
Trendy, RSS will be there so long as your pisslamic terrorism exists in the world. Otherwise you and your jihadi brothers would have made life miserable for others.
Re: RSS.
by deependra kamle on Jul 25, 2009 09:33 AM
dear freind in any crisis situation you will find RSS cdare to reach there first before any NGOs or goverment help.
Re: Re: RSS.
by Trend setter on Jul 25, 2009 09:36 AM
I do appreciate humanitarian work by the RSS..but do such activities in any manner condone or justify the atrocities perpetrated on minorities?...Gujarat is a mere case in point.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by Lucky B on Jul 25, 2009 10:06 AM
What trendy? Train buring is in dispute!!! Oh yah people want to do mass suicide. Give me a break. You guys live in denial. You guys never accepts wrong doing of your own people. That's why the whole problem is continuing. Till you don't accept there is a problem you wouldn't look for remedy either.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by Lucky B on Jul 25, 2009 09:47 AM
You came to abuse, that shows you are loose temper. Abe blind man don't you see Gujarat was reaction because you guys burnt a train.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by Trend setter on Jul 25, 2009 09:49 AM
who burnt the train is still under dispute...only the nanavati commission which was appointed by MOdi himself has cleared Modi..!!
Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:38 AM
Trendy, why don't you see the atrocities committed by the "minorities" also? Do you think you have a divine right to blast all kaf1rs for establishing your kaliphate? When the going gets tough, the tough gets going!!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:57 AM
Trendy, there is no end to conspiracy theories!!!! You guys have been crying foul for the past 1400 years. At that time your guys used to say they wanted to destroy your re1igion itself!!!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by Trend setter on Jul 25, 2009 09:50 AM
well..the justification is for US,Israel and the India nexus.They want to foment trouble and destroy the only muslim nuclear armed state.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS.
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:45 AM
Yes, trendy, can you tell me what is justification of Sunnnnis blasting the shiiias and their mosques???
Re: RSS.
by Lucky B on Jul 25, 2009 09:32 AM
Your hate wouldn't wipe a true patriotic organization. I don't believe in your propaganda against a nationalistic, cultured and respect-all organization.
If this news and statistic is correct there is slight ray of hope for survival of Hindus Otherwise Half Porki Nehru Parivar aided by Mulla Singh, CPM ,Immam of JM ,Govt Aided Madrsa will soon convert Hindustan in Islamistan
Re: RSS
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:32 AM
MANGAL PANDE, that is their ultimate aim. The creation of Pakistan itself was the first step in the direction of 1slamization of entire Asia from Moroco to Indonesia. One Chaudhary Rehmat Ali was the main proponent of the same.
Re: Re: RSS
by Umashanker Kapoor on Jul 25, 2009 09:41 AM
jgn, we shud thank that the paki portion got seperated from india. or otherwise there wud have been no development in india as well. paki is on the verge of disintegration or may be the pkace where nuclear holocast may take place in order to contain terrorism.
Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:47 AM
Trendy, in whhich Mad_rassa did you study? Where were the Mughlas for 1000 years? Who was the first Moghul ruler and when did he start ruling some part of India????????
Re: RSS
by Umashanker Kapoor on Jul 25, 2009 09:38 AM
pandeji. heeengoooism survived all : ashok's buddism spread like wildfire in neighbouring countries, but failed in india, alakzander the great could not propogate his country's culture, moghuls and then britishiers' could not remove heeendoooism so any mooolahs (mal/yam/sea, see/pee/yam, porki or not neeero parivar or mad/raa/sauses will destabilise heeendoooism. but our bara/hara/mees (especially the kash puns) shud be taken care of. the kash puns got converted to muzuleems and have a mentality of their own which is beyond comprehension of any wise culture.
Re: Re: RSS
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:35 AM
vijay patel, you are right to some extent. The Right-wing H1ndu parties are also trying to organize the h1ndus on the lines of intolerant West Asian Re1igions. But the entire blame cannot be put at thier door steps.
The yoke of secularism cannot rest on the shoulders of one section of the society alone. We all have to strive for peace to prevail in our Country. If we follow the narrow re1igious agenda, our Country would resemble Afghanistan sooner than later.
Re: Re: Re: Re: RSS
by JGN on Jul 25, 2009 09:49 AM
I don't have to go to bali or any other place. Are you telling me what is in India is not hindooooism??? I did not ask any Mus1im to go to Saudi and find out what 1slam is or to any X'tian to go to Italy and find out what X'tianity is!!!!
Dalit Muslim Yadav Bhai Hindu Jat Kahan Se Ai. If numbers could tell this is a major sucess story. In a population of 1 bn people, with 70% under 35 only 14000 attending RSS as trainees. Finally the civilized world can heave a sigh of relief and we can rejoice at the end of Brahmanic faith and its racist institutions
If these statistics are true, then it stands to reason that the RSS has started supporting the Congress since 2004. I suppose the BJP did not do enough to support the RSS agenda even though it took their help.
Re: hmmm
by Guest on Jul 25, 2009 12:16 PM
I had been associated with RSS for a long time and i strongly deny that RSS creates problems for our country. If you have been to any functions / Meetings of RSS then you people will not complain about RSS. It is working for the growth of the country by making people more diciplined , Cultured and sinciere. It believes in the principle of development should be from the base.
I have also seen some Muslim friends coming to RSS camps and never it hates any community and still it wants to protect Hinduism from other evil elements.
And i strongly say that who has understood RSS througly never hurt anyone feelins first but they have the guts to protect themselves when they are under attck.
So dont complin about any organisation till you know completely
