Terrorism by muslims against the easy targets Hindu and Sikhs should be checked first. Violence against Christians is a relatively rare case. Why is everybody pcking on good guys and failing to focus on main issues such as Islamic and Christian violence against Sikhs and Hindus all over the world. Most whites don't know even difference between arab and Indian in the West.
recently when consul general of US consulate visted bangalore, idiots like sangliana etc met him and and appraised him of situation(their version)--this spineless,overhyped cop won a lok sabha seat on BJP ticket and "converted" None of the biased news channels carried the story. Noe EU and US has stepped in--why are US, italian govts interested in what's happenning in India. What about their dismal record in human violations. Our sick Govt will sell itself trying to project itself as a protector of minorities. If all of them feel so persecuted nothing prevents them from migrating--what prevents them?
US makes a resolution to keep our house clean so that they can plant their weeds
Islamic countries wish us to be more patient so that their activities will continue here.
Our leaders address always .. Hindutva and BJP and Patriotism are responsible to bend our heads down with shame.
Rest of the world is interested selectively to teach us.
This is the time to put an end to this interference in to the affairs of a nation. Hindus are tolerant as much as other religious people. Do not identify the trouble makers with any particular religion. Please come out of this 'Mind set'. Punish them with proper laws. Do not show sympathy for lawless people. Protect the laws. Laws will protect the people.
Belive me almost everyone in workplace are converted Hindus. They sound Hindu but they r X'tians....I was shocked to discover that t'day when somebody threw my Ganesha Photo to dustbin.....Of late 6 of 8 collegues are converted Christians but they have Hindu names...What's happening ????. I never thought names like Poornima, Ganesh, Sreenath, Ankit etc would be X'tians....It's really shocking.....
Re: I'm fed up with conversions !!!
by Mag N on Sep 30, 2008 08:05 PM
Dear friend, Dont allow the frustration to eat you.
Nobody can take the law in hand.
If I was very sure of forced conversion, I would have pretended to get converted and then expose the whole scene to the police and public, rather than vanadalising the church...
I wish whoever is fighting had done this than showing anger. Truth becomes hidden and missing.
Before speaking out to a problem, find the root cause of the same. The violence are happening bcos these conversion agents are always poking their nose into Hindu religion. Why all violence happened in Ktka? Christains distributed a book called Satya Darshini which speaks ill of Hindus and Hindu Gods. Following are certain samples
It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves the victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39) When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others. Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39). God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit ‘Vyabichari" relationships. (Page 39).
I agree that there are Hindus living in all parts of the world. But, they mind their own business. They do not convert people, they do not use blasphemous language on other religion. They do not keep bombs. Instead they respect other religion and their Gods. In India, anything can be done to Hindus & their Gods. Hindus have been calm for past 800 years (its their weakness). Now, they have started replying back in their own language.
Re: To USA and Vatican City - Control Conversion Agents
by VetrI on Sep 30, 2008 11:51 AM
Excellent observation.. I wud ask the US to just Mind their own business.
Re: To USA and Vatican City - Control Conversion Agents
by Mag N on Sep 30, 2008 08:07 PM
My friend...I am posting my message again.....
Nobody can take the law in hand. If I was very sure of forced conversion, I would have pretended to get converted and then expose the whole scene to the police and public, rather than vanadalising the church...
I am a Indian Hindu. Before you begin to abuse me.
I am ashamed some violent Hindu Religious Zealots have taken laws into their own hands to prevent conversions. India is a secular and tolerant land (I mean to say the Hindus are tolerant, and I would like them to be tolerant and accept others as they come. That is the reason the Hindus have respect in the world - precisely for their tolerance). These morality policemen do not have the right to prevent ANYBODY from choosing their religion, HOWEVER MONETARILY INDUCED SUCH CONVERSIONS ARE. Other religious missionaries such as Christian, Islamic organizations may adopt monetary inducements to convert poor people. Islam even promises violence against individuals who plan to convert to other religion. Hinduism rises above such pettiness. HINDUS SHOULD REMAIN TOLERANT. INDIVIDUAL LIFE IS MORE VALUABLE THAN A MAN MADE CONCEPT CALLED RELIGION.
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by thehindu on Sep 30, 2008 11:47 AM
people like you are threat to this greaat nation. for earning some euros and dollars people like you are ready to sell your mother. shame on you.
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Neutral on Sep 30, 2008 11:58 AM
HIDDEN MEANING OF SHARAD'S POST ------------------------------- I will beat you I will bomb you I will convert you I will speak ill of you I will speak ill of your God
But, you have to keeep quiet. Bcos, u are a Hindu
We have been looting you We have been enslavling you
But, you should not speak Bcos you are a Hindu
We respect HINDU We regard HINDU
Bcos you were keeping quite for centuries.
Now, we dont like you Now, we see you as a villan
Bcos, you have started speaking Bcos, you are giving back to us
Pls stop all these nonsense. We want to convert, we want to kill Hinduism
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Ancil on Sep 30, 2008 11:48 AM
I think it would good if u can keep ur advice for urself. No one is ready to buy it. We as Hindus have tolerated toooo much and hence we are facing all kinds of problem. Enough is enough, now we shud pay back. There is a limit for tolerance. If someone beats ur child once r twice it's fine, but will u keep tolerating if they beat ur child to death....Put urself in that situation and think. Don't give ur free advice, no one is interested in it anymore.
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Sharad on Sep 30, 2008 12:07 PM
So you are going to kill some christians. That's going to make you happy, be my guest.
Re: Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Indian on Sep 30, 2008 11:52 AM
Sharad is either a Xian or a Mozie.. They place deception tactic..
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Rohit on Sep 30, 2008 11:50 AM
If you are ashamed to be a Hindu, then why are you still one? Why don't you become a mullah or a missionary. Frankly, you will not be missed.
Re: Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Indian on Sep 30, 2008 11:52 AM
Sharad is either a Xian or a Mozie.. They place deception tactic..
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Sharad on Sep 30, 2008 01:00 PM
Violence in response to racist comments is not self defence. Fight conversion in the plane of ideology, not with violence. Violence as self defence is acceptable in a civil society only when there is a physical threat of violence against you. Words do not justify violence as a response.
Re: Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Indian on Sep 30, 2008 11:52 AM
Sharad is either a Xian or a Mozie.. They place deception tactic..
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by murli nair on Sep 30, 2008 02:20 PM
Sharad - that is also the reason, Hindus were enslaved for the last 1500 years. Being tolerant does not mean being cowards. Picking up the sword in defence of truth and against injustice is not wrong. Not doing so is cowardly and wrong. Whining and crying 'peace peace' in front of aggresive thugs and abusing and underminging those who are weak is cowardly not tolerant. On the the strong and brave can be tolerant.
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by S Kiran on Sep 30, 2008 11:47 AM
Look at the complete picture. Look at the hate being spread by the missionaries.
Re: Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Indian on Sep 30, 2008 11:51 AM
Sharad is either a Xian or a Mozie.. They place deception tactic..
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by thehindu on Sep 30, 2008 11:47 AM
people like you are threat to this greaat nation. for earning some euros and dollars people like you are ready to sell your mother. shame on you.
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by thehindu on Sep 30, 2008 11:47 AM
people like you are threat to this greaat nation. for earning some euros and dollars people like you are ready to sell your mother. shame on you.
Re: Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Indian on Sep 30, 2008 11:51 AM
Sharad is either a Xian or a Mozie.. They place deception tactic..
Re: Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Sharad on Sep 30, 2008 12:13 PM
This nation is GREAT BECAUSE OF TOLERANCE, not because of violence. Your language is shameful, not mine. Read carefully.
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Indian on Sep 30, 2008 11:50 AM
I will share my experience with Xian missionaries: They came to our place talking about the message of Jesus Christ. They said he is God in human flesh and that salvation is possible ONLY through him. We said there are many paths to salvation. Then they started talking bad about Hindu gods/godesses and that Hindus worship devils. What would you do in such a case. Based on the Xian concept of Father, Son, & Holy GHOST, cant you ridicule them for taking ghost's name every time they repeat father n son? We asked them to live after offering a cup of tea and Idli. They kept on coming in the absence of male members. They asked women folks to throw dry coconuts that were tied to the door. Having had enough of them, we warned them not to enter our place in future. When other families repeated the same thing, these thuggs left for good.
So where is equality in religion. They always say our god is supreme; our prophet is the last one n everything else is false. Would you accept such a stupidity? Bottomline: Tolerance has a limit.
Re: Religious preference of individual is a matter of choice
by Mag N on Sep 30, 2008 08:10 PM
My friend...I am posting my message again.....
Nobody can take the law in hand. If I was very sure of forced conversion, I would have pretended to get converted and then expose the whole scene to the police and public, rather than vanadalising the church...
I am a Indian Hindu. Before you begin to abuse me.
why dont they look after their own economy which is in complete disarray. US ( a christian nation) does have any right to speak about others. Why dont they adopt a resolution in the Congress to change themselves to a secular nation.
