One day is Sufficient for us , if our defense & Raw get free hand to deal with them. Or live to the peoples hand. We can see the result . The spineless want vote . That is the reason the bala balas are there. Who cares them. Jai hind.
As they say,"Little knowledge is a dangerous thing."Islam is a big subject hence it is not possible for most Muslims to know even a fraction of it in a life time.Hinduism being a boundless ocean it is even more difficult to know even a nano fraction of it.Lord Krishna's 1600 so-called wives were actually the widows of those men who were killed during a battle with Him.In those days society was less civilised & therefore these women were vulnerable to exploitation by evil men in society.Lord Krishna was the King of Dwarka & hence the most powerful man whom everybody feared& respected.When these widows asked Him for protection the King proclaimed them as His wives so that they came under State protection and the law was that anyone misbehaving with the King's wife faced death penalty.This ensured their safety.The stories about Lord Krishna's hiding the clothes of the bathing gopis of Brajbhumi took place when He was just 6 years old & He had to flee this place when He was just thirteen years old to Dwarka.Lord Ram did not doubt Sita's character at all because He knew she was pure.But as King He had to set an example to His subjects that He was no exception (unlike other great historical characters who invoked God's unique permission to permit them their own perverted pleasures without any opposition)as a washerwoman(a subject)had raised her objection that Sita's character needed to be verified before Ram could take her back as Queen after He brought her back from Ravan's Lanka
Re: A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING.
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 06:15 PM
kedem ,, thanks for the information ,, will have it in mind ,, this was the reason why even Prophet Mohammed had these many wives ,, many of them were widows whose husband had died in a warfare ,, & few of them were sent as spies on Him ,, & again for the information of u guys ,, during Prophet Mohammed life,, some 82 wars were fought ,, ALL IN DEFENSE ,, & after Him wars were fought by His followers in offense ,, so do not blame Prophet Mophammed if His followers did an extra thing what He did not teach them or do it Himself in His lifetime ,, my advise to all will be simple ,, HAVE RESPECT FOR OTHERS & TAKE WHAT IS GOOD FROM OTHERS ,, UNITE AGAINST TERROR.
Re: A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING.
by Vivek Harry on Oct 04, 2008 12:18 AM
there can be no unity with terrorists to fight against terror, the women were widowed by Mohammed himself, if he was so concerned about them, then why did he not allow them to remarry after his death? Did God not inform him if some women were spies? there were no wars, most of them were petty raids to loot and rape which were offensive
Raman himself answers 'One of his deputies may take over as the new Amir of the TTP' to the question he poses ' After Baitullah, what?'.
Terrorism based on some skewed interpretation of religion, usage of violence as a means to fight perceived injustice, intolerance of other faiths and people cannot be resolved without major changes in the underlying philosophies that drive these people.
There is a need for drastic revision of religious texts, control of religious education, and humane laws to get rid of brutal sharia laws, bring in modern education to all, and DISBAND those educational bodies that preach outdated values. None of these are EASY, unless the communities participate, the religious heads do consciously play a POSITIVE and PROACTIVE ROLE.
Re: Deep rooted terrorism does not depend on one leader...
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 05:52 PM
you are right, I*lam is a crime syndicate and all the sharia laws should be outlawed, they are fit for musuem of atrocities, not in civil society
You still are not answering my question. OK is not always correct. Okey? Who decided what is OK and what is not OK? Why Allah did not stop him marrying 6 year old girl when he was 55? Was the life exectancy of 10 years for girls 1400 years ago? Was there no boy of 14-15 yearls old for that 6 years old girl, why a 55 year old has to marry her? Prophet should have used common sense that 'Even if it is OK, it is not correct to marry 6 year old'. Lets understand that Prophet did not use common sense, at least Allah would have stopped him.
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 05:16 PM
sorryfor interrupting u two guys Joshi & dot ,, but I got my view here ,, Prophet did not willfully marry the 9 yr old but was forced to as a demand from other tribesmen ,, all these hadees about His marriage to a 9 yr old for sex & such things r just to tarnish His image ,, leave the Prophets case ,, lets take Him as a common man (but He is Prohet) & so when a common man gives so many good points to everybody around him ,, so will not people try to find out if he really means it or not ,, people will surely wanna spy on him ,, so was done on Prophet ,, & see guys ,, it isnt the end of the world now ,, slowly these things will come clear as the marriage age is reduced from 21 to 18 & few court rulings in India allowed even 16 & outside India few allowed till 14 also ,, all learned men delivering their stances slowly & steadily ,, so thats why as nature allowed ,, 11 & 9 might come up too ,, cause its 11 the age of puberty for girls outside GCC & its 9 in gulf countries for girls when they reach puberty ,, joshi what say about Krishna ,, how many wives did he have ,, 1000!!?? he used to see other women bather when he was even a kid ,, boss do not try to pinpoint others when u urselves have some mismatches..how come Ram left a great Lady like Sita by doubting her ,, she being such a great lady ,, can her charecter be doubted ,, so plz dont points at others
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by kedem kemorah on Oct 03, 2008 05:59 PM
As they say,"Little knowledge is a dangerous thing."Islam is a big subject hence it is not possible for most Muslims to know even a fraction of it in a life time.Hinduism being a boundless ocean it is even more difficult to know even a nano fraction of it.Lord Krishna's 1600 so-called wives were actually the widows of those men who were killed during a battle with Him.In those days society was less civilised & therefore these women were vulnerable to exploitation by evil men in society.Lord Krishna was the King of Dwarka & hence the most powerful man whom everybody feared& respected.When these widows asked Him for protection the King proclaimed them as His wives so that they came under State protection and the law was that anyone misbehaving with the King's wife faced death penalty.This ensured their safety.The stories about Lord Krishna's hiding the clothes of the bathing gopis of Brajbhumi took place when He was just 6 years old & He had to flee this place when He was just thirteen years old to Dwarka.Lord Ram did not doubt Sita's character at all because He knew she was pure.But as King He had to set an example to His subjects that He was no exception (unlike other great historical characters who invoked God's unique permission to permit them their own perverted pleasures without any opposition)as a washerwoman(a subject)had raised her objection that Sita's character needed to be verified before Ram could take her back as Queen after He brought her back from Ravan's Lanka
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 05:19 PM
what sensible people should understand that mr. mohammad was not a common man but a conman
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 05:27 PM
Vivek ,, people like u will not take Ram as a good man but wil linfact support Ravan as he has money & power ,, people like u will not support Moses but will support Pharoah ,, people like u will not support Jesus but will support the roman kingdom ,, u have ur mindset only for revenge & not for learning soemthing great ,, DO NOT TELL ANYTHING ABOUT ANY GREAT PERSONALITIES ,, THEY MIGHT NOT BE A PROPHET IN UR VIEW BUT HISTORY SAYS THEY SURELY WERE MORE LEARNED, MOST BEST ETTIQUTTE, MOST BEST JUDGES & BEST OF ALL OTHERS IN THEIR TIMES ,, so stop shouting to the top of ur voice against Prophet Mohammed & Islam ,, u wanna follow ur new religion of europe & america which allows pork & wine so do (cause chistianity does not allow pork & wine,read orginal bible & ask chirstians y do not they eat & drink such things inside churches ,,cause its not good huh)),, but do not shout on others......
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by Joshi Joshi on Oct 03, 2008 05:50 PM
abcxyz, you have just created your id so as to take part in this disc... I am damn sure you are follower Zakir Naik, when you ask him a question like "Does this train go to Delhi", he answers "Are grapes in Nagpur sweet?" Totally irrelevant... I asked, "is it ok for a man of 55 to marry a girl of 6", you are asking me "how many wives krishna had"? How is this relevant to my question? I am still adhered to my quesiton without any diversion.
1. Is it OK for a 55 year old man to marry 6 year old girl and to have sex when she turns 9? You say OK for two reasons, 1. It was OK at that time and 2. life expectany was low.
My question 2. Was life expectany 7 years of girls 1400 years ago? No answers yet
3. Was there a no boy of 9-10-11-12 (youngar) at that time for that 6 year old girl. No answers yet
4. Did not 55 year old man use common sense? No answers yet
5. Did not Allah stop him from doing so? No answers yet
My final question. 6. Why did Ram and Krishana creep in during this discussion? Reason : Following of too much Zakir Naik
Re: Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 06:02 PM
yucky man ,, I dont like that man zakir naik ,, he is a dumb ass bend on fighting others ,, I crave for peace ,, & unlike what vivek said just now ,, its not just Prophet Mohammed whom I consider exalted ,, but I also consider Ram, Jesus, Buddha , Moses & such people exalted cause they took people opf their times out of ignorance ,, showed them a right way to live ,, joshi ,, regards to ur query for 55 yrs marrying a 9 yr,, I write AGAIN that He was forced to marry that 9 yr old as people wanted to spy on Him ,, man ,, there r so many false things said about him ,, even many a false things were sadia bout other great personalities ,, but we have to use our common sense that they were here to help others in leading a good life ,, then why target these great personalities cause of the wrong doings of other people who CLAIM to be their followers ,, vivek ,, i am not obsessed with pork & wine but raking the issue cause u r obsesses with jihad ,, jihad means to fight with the evil inside us ,, the other jihad to fight non-muslims arises when muslims have been atacked ,, as Hindus have been asked to fight when attacked ,, as christians have been asked to fight when attacked ,, so also muslims have been asked to fight (jihad) when attacked ,, joshi ,, Prophet was forced to marry her ,, & I said about Ram & Krishna to u to make u understand that wrong thigns can be said about great people ,, but take their good values which is in recorded history ,,
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by prathipati babu on Oct 12, 2008 03:36 AM
Come on guys...u surely r not sanctioning them as acceptable....If such things about these holy men are true,they are condemnable no matter of their divinity or religion..don't u think defending such things acts contrary to our own conscience...
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 05:33 PM
why are you so obsessed with pork and wine? anyway I do not think you know anything about mohammad, he was not learned but illiterate, if you know any good things about him that I do not know, I am willing to learn from you, please go ahead
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 05:48 PM
ignorant people should not waste their time uniting others against terror, you are a terrorist yourself if you find mohammad such an exalted character
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 05:53 PM
I am leaving now guys ,, might be I made my point to some & other ignorant might still be wanting the flesh & blood of their fellow humans ,, sorry but they r trying to live the lives of dead people ,, not connected to anybody ,, salam alaikum , namaste, sas ri akal , good day ,, all mean the same - PEACE ,, open ur minds & say ,, its just a change of language ,, vivek cannot live happily his full life if he has this mindset ,, sure ,, others ,, have peace guys ,,
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 05:53 PM
I am leaving now guys ,, might be I made my point to some & other ignorant might still be wanting the flesh & blood of their fellow humans ,, sorry but they r trying to live the lives of dead people ,, not connected to anybody ,, salam alaikum , namaste, sas ri akal , good day ,, all mean the same - PEACE ,, open ur minds & say ,, its just a change of language ,, vivek cannot live happily his full life if he has this mindset ,, sure ,, others ,, have peace guys ,,
Re: Dot. I don't find Reply button to your answer @Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM, I am typing a new message.
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 05:41 PM
Go to any Muslim library ,, open QURAN & read the english translation ,, u might see somethign connected to bible (the original one) but Prophet Mohammed was the one in those days the MOST LEARNED ,, He was not illiterate ,, its again a wrong hadees ,, if He was illietrate then How come He said so many things about space above the skies & down below the earth & about the trees & about birth of humans in womb ,, can someone having so much vast knowledge about so many fields be described as illietrate or is it to malign Him that such hadees r introduced!!?? u have ur common sense working & not the sense of revenge when reading about Him ,, He knew about each & every Prophet before Him ,, do u know atleast about Prophet Mohammed or about Prophet Moses ,, no ,, means u r illiterate more than anybody but infact shouting on others ,, what a shame ,, I am not here to teach u about Prophet Mohammed or Islam ,, but just to make people unite against terror ,, so the learning part u do it plz by going through the library books ,,
Vivek ,, so does ur argument mean that when christians do not follow the original testtament that forbids eating prok & drinking wine ,, then what is the use of bowing to Jesus ,, what is the use of bible ,, throw away ,, followers not following properly does not mean Commandements & the Commander is wrong ,, when the people of Moses (todays isreal) did not follow Moses's commandments & started their own ,, Moses went away fromt hem & all of them got doomed ,, so is the same with any religion ,, DO NOT FOLLOW THE COMMANDERS WORDS & IT GETS DOOMED ,, so will happen to Islam & chirstianity
dot & joshi ,, good arguments between u 2 ,, my opinions & history plz: @Prophet did not marry anybody by his own wish except Lady Khatija , others were all given to him, so that tribal leaders can keep a check on Prophet when He was in His house, leadind a personal life, so His wives were acting as spies @aisha was not the fav wife as quoted my illiterates , read bukhari & muslim. Why did not he then marry anybody when Khatija was alive, & why did he marry another woman when he already had aisha?? ponder over it,, its plain history @ this 4 witness case is in tribal areas of pakistan , so no equation with Islam plz. @WHY r extremist fighting for poeple who played politics & died 14 centuries , QURAN says that to everybody his religion , his questioning only during dooms day ,, so why r people being questioned now?? means al qaeda & taliban like people do not have belief on QURAN Thanks
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 04:28 PM
buddy u are rt to a certain extent ,prophet married most of the times by some purpose ,, although its not that his wives were offered to him by tribals , coz according to quran the wish of a female is paramount in case of marriage ,,without the girls consent marriage is not valid .. so naturally prophet wouuld not do something against quran... well abt al-qaida and taliban no doubt whomsover is killing innocents is no muslim ....but fighting the american aggressors is no crime ...its simply a freedom fight ..just like we fought against british
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 04:32 PM
al-qaida itself is foriegn to Pakistan and NWFP, what right does it hve to do freedom fighting, why is Islamic state of Pakistan refusing to implement sharia, we see that Muslims themselves do not have faith in sharia
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 04:46 PM
man alqaida was helping afghans @ the time of russians and is doing it @ the time of americans .... the fact is i am not sure whether there is anything like alqaida .i think its cia people ,,coz the most they have benefitted is americans ..why sharia is not implemented in pakistan ,,i can better ur question,,why is it not implemented in algeria,egypt,iraq.syria,yemen,oman u.a.e..why dont u check who is the ruler in these countries ,,and they are supported by whom..?
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 04:54 PM
that is the problem, they are taking help from al-qaida which is a terrorist organization, that is why they are breeding terrorists, what benefit is america getting except security of homeland, are there oil fields in afghanistan, then what is the purpose of islamic state like Pakistan if sharia is not impleemnted there, is this the way they respect their divine laws, that means they have lost faith in the laws of Allah
Re: Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 05:04 PM
afghanistan is the gateway to central asia ..thats why it was attacked and do u want me to tell u reason for attacking iraq..vivek u will have to go a bit into history only then u will be able to make sense of this ..try checking why egypt is under emergency from 30 years ,,try to see what happened to the last general elections held in algeria ...the list is endless
Re: Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 04:54 PM
dot ,, me & u & everybody here r just sitting in our houses,, we got no clue what games american, pakistani & oher politicians r playing ,, even our own great Indian politicians ,, but one thing is ,, al qaeda & taliban can never be right by imposing themselves on others in Sharia ,, Sharia does not belong to them ,, its ALLAH's ,, & see yeah ,, even their own brothers in saudi & egypt (the maulvis there) have said that al qaeda liek people r actually a DEVIANT GROUP ,, means they r not connected to Islam ,, then y r u supporting them ,, will u tell a small political group of just 5% as right when 95% supports someone sitting on them ,, that too targetting innocents ,, even otherwise will u justify KILLINGS ,, al qaeda & taliban like people r sure to get a taste of their own sword soon ,,
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 05:11 PM
somalia, algeria, most of it is under the control of Islamic warlords who are harassing the population, even in Iraq, the Shia-Sunni conflict is older than American imperialism, remember how many Shias Saddam killed, you should not blame others, why is the guidance of Allah so useless
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 04:59 PM
man i never said i supported alqaida ,,anybody who harms a innocent is offcourse a deviant ..my point is there are people in iraq, afghanistan ,somalia,egypt ,algeria who are geniune freedom fighters fighting against american imperilism
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 05:02 PM
Vivek ,, so does ur argument mean that when christians do not follow the original testtament that forbids eating prok & drinking wine ,, then what is the use of bowing to Jesus ,, what is the use of bible ,, throw away ,, followers not following properly does not mean Commandements & the Commander is wrong ,, when the people of Moses (todays isreal) did not follow Moses's commandments & started their own ,, Moses went away fromt hem & all of them got doomed ,, so is the same with any religion ,, DO NOT FOLLOW THE COMMANDERS WORDS & IT GETS DOOMED ,, so will happen to Islam & chirstianity
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 04:40 PM
I made my point by telling the al qaeda & taliban r imposing their belief's on others which is UNACCEPTABLE EVEN IN ISLAM,, they r not fighting americans cause of aggression,, otherwise why is america getting a majority support in Afganistan, Iraq, Saudi, UAE, Kuwait, Behrain, Qatar!!?? @it wasn't Prophet's duty to take the woman's consent before marriage but was actually the woman;s father 7 which they did already (hopefully) & send their daughters as spies on Prophet,, to see if He too does the same what He preaches & at last found the Prophet right ,, Prophet did not had a wish to anybody except Khatija,, otherwise how come Prophet did not have any offspring from any of His opther wives!!?? He was capable which He proved already ,, some were widows (proves their fertility as they might have other children) but no offspring between Prophet & these women!? so did he actually have physical relationship with them!? seems NO ,, simmple thinking boss ,, nothing fishy in this ,,
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 04:44 PM
it is possible he did not have physical relationship with his wives, but had with maria
Re: Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 04:51 PM
one thing abt alqaida ..i think they are actually CIA people ,,coz they have done immense damage to muslims ,,pitted muslims against each other.otherwise usa would have been toast by now in iraq..they where saved thanks to alqaida
Re: some points to ponder over plain history
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 04:56 PM
but what is the benefit of worshipping Allah if muslims cannot understand what is good for them, then what is wrong with worshipping idols, because even after worshipping allah, there does not seem to be any benefit, the same as idols
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 03:09 PM
sahih bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by abcxyz on Oct 03, 2008 04:13 PM
dot & joshi ,, good arguments between u 2 ,, my opinions & history plz: @Prophet did not marry anybody by his own wish except Lady Khatija , others were all given to him, so that tribal leaders can keep a check on Prophet when He was in His house, leadind a personal life, so His wives were acting as spies @aisha was not the fav wife as quoted my illiterates , read bukhari & muslim. Why did not he then marry anybody when Khatija was alive, & why did he marry another woman when he already had aisha?? ponder over it,, its plain history @ this 4 witness case is in tribal areas of pakistan , so no equation with Islam plz. @WHY r extremist fighting for poeple who played politics & died 14 centuries , QURAN says that to everybody his religion , his questioning only during dooms day ,, so why r people being questioned now?? means al qaeda & taliban like people do not have belief on QURAN Thanks
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 03:25 PM
mr joshi no need to put up a reference , i know prophet married aisha ,,but i have already answered ,first of all i dont understand whats the problem if somebody has sex with his wife ..(well i know u will say with a 9 yr old ...then why dont u ask some docter ,whats the age when a girl can have sex & do u know mensuration starts at 9 years .can u tell me what that means ,, why does mensuration occur ) secondary ..do u really think the marriage was abt sex ,,what was the need for marriage ,, the master of arabia could have any number of women ,,without the obligation of marriage..& do u know the rate of pregnancy in 9-10 years old in west these days who are in willful relations with ther bf ... what does this tell u?
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by Joshi Joshi on Oct 03, 2008 03:37 PM
Dot, if you don't see any thing wrong for a person of 55 marrying 6 year old girl. Since she is his wife and reached puberty at the age of 9, he (57 years old husband0 can have sex with her (9 year old). I have nothing to argue with you.
If you know the reason, its fine. I don't want to know. As you see no problem with that, I must say good bye. More over, I don't want to know about health condition of west. I know, you must be knowing the reason for 4 male witensses as well. Lord of Arebia can have asked for 72 witnesses, but why only 4?
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 03:53 PM
mr joshi,, there are n number of answers to ur query ..1) mensuration start @9 coz thats the age of reproduction chosen by nature .. now if nature does not want us to reproduce at this age then why does it start at all? 2) u are looking @ this situation from todays prism ..do u know whats the avg life expectancy today (62years) any guessess whats was the avg life expectancy 1400 years ago.. in those times how do they treated heart attack.kidney failur,diabetes ,cancer ,asthma etc etc ... the fact is in those times according to the avg life span 9 years was pretty ok for marriage.. & i have not talked abt health conditions of west ..but abt the fact that 9 is a ok age for reproductin ,,thats how mother nature intend it to be ... & one question if it was abt sex why did prophet waited till she was 9,, why not at 6 ? abt ur other question ..islam never asks for 4 or 72 witnessesses .u are actually talking abt a tribal law in pakistan called hadood
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by ashraf kazi on Oct 03, 2008 11:51 PM
Lord Krishana was 67000 wifes , Pondos was 1 wife 5 husband .....Is it religion ... BY Ravi Shankar ...........
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by Joshi Joshi on Oct 03, 2008 04:22 PM
Sorry, Mr Dot, you are answering unasked questions? No where in your reply, you mentioned as to why Prophet married that girl. You went on giving medical reasons. You missed one more point that smoking cigarrattes can cause cancer. If something medically allowed should not be allowed ethically. Why do one has to know how heart attack was treated 1400 years ago in arebia in order to find a reason for a person of nearing 60 to have sex with 9 year old girl.
I can see that you don't find any problem in 60 year old man having sex with 9 year old girl for two reasons. 1. That he is her husband, 2. That she is medically fit to have sex. I have nothing to argue with you as you went on giving answers for unasked questions.
I am saying good bye as you find it not wrong and you divert topic.
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by dot on Oct 03, 2008 04:42 PM
buddy ,,the reason he married her ,was ,it was okay to marry @ that age in those times ..what abt smoking causing cancer & then something medically allowd and ethically not ..cant make sense of it ..plz be presice and provide e.g., the reason i was talking abt diseases was to stress upon the fact that in those times age span was less and thats why 9 was okay for marriage. plz read my post carefully ...& buddy to know the truth abt something approach it without any preconcieved notions
Re: Dot, verse number 64, in book 62 of Volume 7 in Bukhari
by Vivek Harry on Oct 03, 2008 04:47 PM
@dot, then why did he leave her a young widow at 18 years, and say she was everyone's mother and no marriage for her, poor girl
