Re: I welcome Gay marriages
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 12:48 PM
Yes and no. But wouldn't it be great if more people realized the benefits of homosexuality?
Whats their mistake if they are born like that? Gayism is no western idea, its visible in every society and even animals Gayism may be a mental disorder, but is not whats displayed in stupid bollywood movies like fire etc. A straight man can never think gay even if he is fashionable rich and western
Gays are humans too and there should not be any biasing. They have their own preferences
Re: Poor Gays
by Aditya Venkat on Nov 11, 2008 09:32 AM
please keep ur scientific explanations to urself True Indian. First there is no such thing as Gayism, Gay is a sexual orientation, just like being straight is, and it is not a mental disorder. Mental disorder is the state when people refuse to accept what is natural in this world like what most of the homophobes in this forum do either because of their religious baggage or their parochial upbringing. I dont think gay people require anyones sympathy, on the contrary its the homophobes who needs it because of their ignorance and short sightedness.
Re: Poor Gays
by Sameer Bhagwat on Nov 12, 2008 12:30 AM
Sexual Orientation is no reason to justify Gay Marriage.It's amazing how suddenly the number of Gay's in the world have increased ( even taking into account the closet one's). Teaching it is school is crazy, imagine a child will be attracted towards another child of the same sex because they will be taught that it's ok. If gay marriage is legalized, I can guarantee the number of Gays in the world will jump ten fold. They can have their civil union but marriage is a social and family value and should not be confused with alternate sex that is Gay
Re: Poor Gays
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 11:24 AM
Sameer, the number of gays hasn't increased. It's just that more gays are willing to be out of the closet and be counted. No one is talking about teaching it in schools. However, even if it was taught, it would be about love and commitment, not about sex, because believe it or not, gay relationships have just as much sex as the straight relationships do. They too have the same trials and tribulations, joys and celebrations as the straight people. If only people really took time out to see that. Marriage won't increase the number of gays in this world. It will only make more gay people comfortable in living their lives without fear and will bring more stability to society.
Homosexuals in the former Soviet Union have to go to the Mental Hospitals to receive treatment until they get cured. Homosexuality is a Mental Disease, and it can be cured. In the Western countries, it is not considered to be a disease because a number of well placed people, members of the upper class, priests, are Bysexuals. However, India should not follow the Western coiuntries. India should follow the former Soviet law and make it compulsary for the Homosexuals to get admission to the Mental Hospitals. Russians are much more advanced than the Western regarding medical science. West has a lot to learn from the Russians. It is better if RamDoss, as he is promoting Homosexuality, should consult the Russians. Rediff will erase out this message as I suspect they can be homosextual Muslims or Christians or Dalits, as they are so anti-Hindu but pro-Marathis.
Re: Learn from the Russians quickly before Rediff will erase out this message
by Aditya Venkat on Nov 07, 2008 03:51 PM
It is a confirmed fact that most homophobes are closet homosexuals, who are frustated that they are unable to come out and do things the straight people do. These findings have been authenticated by the medical community.
Re: Learn from the Russians quickly before Rediff will erase out this message
by Abdul AkbarKuppakkattu on Nov 07, 2008 06:24 PM
Homosexuality is prohibited as per Islam. No disputes in this.
Re: Learn from the Russians quickly before Rediff will erase out this message
by Aditya Venkat on Nov 10, 2008 10:47 AM
Something prohibited by a religion does not make it wrong. Religion is man made, but science is bound by proof and research. I appreciate the fact that homosexuality is prohibited by the abrahamic religions, and so are so many things that we take for granted in todays world. But let us allow every human being to live his life the way he wants, as long as it does not cause injury or damage to others. And ofcourse it is also an established fact that homosexuality thrives in most Islamic society, just like it does in all sexually supressed ones.
Re: Learn from the Russians quickly before Rediff will erase out this message
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 11:05 AM
Excuse me, but the former Soviet Union has plenty of problems of its own that I'd rather India not take on...one of them being alcoholism...the highest in the world. And this disease of alcoholism is due to the many stresses they have to face, least of which is homosexuality. There's no proof their methodology is superior AND since being queer isn't a disease, as it's found in nature, there's no reason to change people from what they were born as. Besides all this, Rediff isn't pro-Muslim/Christian/Dalit or homosexual. It's your own paranoia, which IS a disease, that's showing through.
Re: Learn from the Russians quickly before Rediff will erase out this message
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 22, 2008 06:28 PM
India has gone to the moon now, but we're still in the colonial times as far as human rights are concerned. And there are people here who talk about India emulating Russia and China because they're better...like as in where human rights record is even worse. That's the real sadness. How can we be making these kinds of advances and leave masses of people behind?
Re: a
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 12:50 PM
Any counselor worth his or her salt will know and be able to tell you that homosexuality isn't a disease or sickness. Homophobia is.
Although i agree that every human being in this world is entitled to respect and justice, i would say that gay marriages sound a bit odd. By my understanding the term marriage is a very christian term that requires a religious ritual and involves a male and a female bound by cultural and religious baggage, and then marriage leads to a legal civil union among the couple. I think the gay community should be allowed just civil union that ensures that both the partners get the same rights and benefits under the law that governs marriage, but terming it as a marriage will be a big vague, and i dont think the forward looking gay community would want any cultural and religious baggage that accompanies it. Probably they could introduce their own specific rituals if they want a bit of pomp and show. As for those people who consider homosexuality unnatural, i think its time the govt seriously initiated a scheme to re-educate them, and cleanse them of the religious nonsense that has been inculcated into them and drill into them that homophobia is as disgusting as racism and religious bigotry. If they still fail to relent, they should be referred to a phychiatrist for treatment.
Re: Marriage or Civil Union ?
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 11:12 AM
Gay marriage does sound odd...only because it's not the norm. But when we abolished child marriage, that too must have seemed odd back then. Heck, love marriage must have seemed very out of the ordinary way back in time. Simply put, why is it so odd to let two people who love each other, are devoted to each other, want to be in a committed relationship, to be married? Why not step out of your comfort zone and see how your comfort is affecting others adversely? If we're talking about giving the same rights of marriage under another name to them, then why not the same name of marriage itself? What does it take away from the straight married people? Nothing!
Some gay folks DON'T want the heteronormative, patriarchal baggage that comes with marriage, but there are many more who do want them. So, why should gay people have to create different rituals and ceremonies? This idea of separate but equal doesn't work...it's discrimination, no matter what you call it.
Re: Marriage or Civil Union ?
by Sameer Bhagwat on Nov 09, 2008 01:04 AM
you need psychatric help. What next pokygamy? Isn't that natural can't 3 people love each other? YOu are an absolute moron.
Re: Marriage or Civil Union ?
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 10:53 AM
Polygamy is a choice, homosexuality isn't. Science research proves that there is a biological basis for homosexuality. As such, there's no comparison between being gay and polygamous.
Re: Marriage or Civil Union ?
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 22, 2008 04:54 PM
Here's a huge difference between civil unions and marriage you might not know:
Marriage brings with it at least 1,049 legal protections and responsibilities from the federal government, including the right to take leave from work to care for a family member, the right to sponsor a spouse for immigration purposes, and Social Security survivor benefits that can make a difference between old age in poverty and old age in security. Civil unions bring none of these critical legal protections.
Of these protections being able to bring your same-sex spouse from abroad is one of them. Right now, many people are separated from their loved ones simply because they're gay.
If this isn't discrimination, unequal treatment, then what?
Imagine a world with of gays and lesbeans only...will they able to survive.....i mean as far as supporting the population and all.... i do hav soft corner for gays specially...but turuth is truth..and the origin of homeosexuality is the result of celibacy in religion... so what i m saying world will certianly looks better with srt8 men and women. and i also agree that gays are more sincere and understand love better than anyother but .......
Re: worls of gays and lesbeans
by Aditya Venkat on Nov 07, 2008 12:22 PM
With no gay people around, we can say goodbye to arts, culture and fashion. And ofcourse there will only be wars and bloodshed, and emotions will take a backseat. So lets all just thank the gay community because we are able to wear fancy branded clothes, spend time at the arts museum, and watch quality drama. And yes, my girlfriend feels a lot safer to visit gay clubs and i feel reassured that we will have a great time when we go out during weekend nights.
Re: Re: worls of gays and lesbeans
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 10:57 AM
Why is it necessary to think of this world with only gays and lesbians? Why can't we see it as it is right now - with 10% of the population as gay and lesbian? Believe me, we gays don't want to take over the world. We just want to be left alone to live our lives as the rest of the straight folks...only we're not allowed to, for one reason or another. Not all gays and lesbians want to have kids either so I don't see how that would make this world more gay, because children of gays and lesbians don't automatically become gay.
it was time when it was difficult to accept homosexuality ...but then there are ppl with different tendencies .We need to change our perspective. Much easier to accept homosexuality than incest or pedophile
Re: accept homosexuality
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 11:17 AM
It's really insulting to put incest and pedophilia in the same category, even if it is about acceptance.
Most pedophiles are straight men, not gays. Check the statistics.
And incest too is a choice that people make, it's not biologically based. Incest is taboo in almost all cultures and marrying first cousins is deemed wrong in some cultures because of increased possibility of genetic problems. There's no such issue with being gay.
