For most of the muslims,Islam comes first and Hindustan last. Infact, for a true muslim, idol-worshipers are Kafir and hence it is his duty to do fight against Hindustan for the sake of Islam. So, our neighbour country takes the advantage of Islam and assists muslims in India to do terrorists activities. Now see the next chapter of the story. Whenever police is able to get hold of islamic terrorists, politiciansave them them due to vote bank politics. Politicians know very well that muslims would give vote to only that party which would save islamic terrorists.. Now this situation leads to what ? The situation leads to the feeling of anger, frustration and insecurity among Hindus and they are forced to take the weapon in their hand to vent their anger as happened in the case of Malegaon..
Re: @All Right
by MOHAMMED HAIDER on Nov 05, 2008 01:10 AM
I cannot answer this question if i was asked whom do u want to sacrifice in between your father and your mother? so is islam and his country to a muslim. That doesnt mean that you can doubt the patriotism. Regarding your second doubt about kafir, kafir in arabic means non muslim or who doesnt follow islam. Like u have hindus and non hindus, christians and non christians so are kafirs and non kafirs. Muslims constitute 20% of the total population, if islam preaches violence and killing of kafirs, trust me buddy every single muslim would have taken up arms. This is not the case. only a handful of people are misguided in the wrong path and majority of muslims do condemn it and feel bad about it like u do.
Re: @All Right
by Niki on Nov 05, 2008 12:33 AM
Addressed To David, R u saying that the blasts in Malegaon r justified becoz of the anger,frustation,etc among Hindus.Then in that same note ,u must justify the acts of the IM which caused blasts in A'bad n Delhi.Their excuse was that they were frustated n angry with the atrocities on muslims in the post Godhra carnage. Mister, there is no justification on acts of terror-Whichever community is involved.There is no justification for killing innocents in the name of religion,period.
Re: @All Right
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 12:46 AM
Clap Clap! This kind of introspection and IQ is what the saffron brigade lacks. But kudos to them, they can make asses out of the majority in India.
Re: @All Right
by Anuj on Nov 05, 2008 12:29 AM
by saying this u are defending all terrorist acts in this country.... because every terrorist always says that he planted bombs to get justice.
Re: @All Right
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:15 AM
Politicians save not only Islamic terrorists. Both Siva Sena and BJP and RSS are trying to save Sadhvi. They proclaimed her innocent even when investigations had not been completed!
Re: @All Right
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 12:22 AM
True. Very true! Had India a more moral and just majority, the communal forces taking the nation apart would be licking their asses. Alas, not to be. Too much immorality and outright denial here. It stinks!
Re: @All Right
by raja sunder on Nov 05, 2008 12:31 AM
ALLRIGHT AND SADIQ, UPA GOVERNMENT IS SHOWING EXTRA HURRY TO ACCUSE SADHVI TO FIND GUILTY. SONIA AND COMPANY IS TRYING TO APPEASE THE MINORITY VOTE BANK. IF ANYONE DOESN'T THINK INIDA IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM, THEY CAN TAKE THE NEXT BOAT FROM WHERE EVER THEY CONVERTED FROM
Re: @All Right
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 12:39 AM
This is my country as much as yours. If you ask me to get out, I have an equal right to tell you tp pack your bags. Learn morality first. For a start, start thinking on your own, be moral, fair, and just, and stop believing what the terrorist political parties tell you!
Re: @All Right
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:29 AM
Jamia VC is a terrorist because he extended legal aid to suscepted Islamic terrorists. By the same logic, should the BJP, RSS and Siva Sena be similarly branded for extending legal aid to Sadhvi - a Hindutva Jehadi?
Re: @All Right
by Syed Hussain on Nov 05, 2008 12:47 AM
Jamia VC sent a very wrong message, that Indian muslims support terrorism. Fact is that 99% indian muslims are very poor, who toil day and night for two square meals. islam with its simplistic, equal, non ritual belief has helped lots of indians get out of brahmanical tyranny.
Re: Re: @All Right
by Syed Hussain on Nov 05, 2008 12:27 AM
I hate both Jamia VC and BJP for supporting terrorists of respective religions. I am not biased, I hate everyone equally.
Re: @All Right
by Niki on Nov 05, 2008 12:42 AM
Addressed to David, Please do not malign any religion becoz certain terrorists r from that religion.Get ur facts clear before stating rubbish.Logically if muslims were to fight against Hindustan,there wud be a lot of bloodshed and in 50yrs since India became free,India wud have turned into an Islamic state by now .But then thats not what Indian muslims want, so dnt write rubbish here.Dont malign the indian Muslims for the act of few terrorists. Terrorists have no religion.
Re: @All Right
by TRUTHISGOLDEN on Nov 05, 2008 12:24 AM
I cannot answer this question if i was asked whom do u want to sacrifice in between your father and your mother? so is islam and his country to a muslim. That doesnt mean that you can doubt the patriotism. Regarding your second doubt about kafir, kafir in arabic means non muslim or who doesnt follow islam. Like u have hindus and non hindus, christians and non christians so are kafirs and non kafirs. Muslims constitute 20% of the total population, if islam preaches violence and killing of kafirs, trust me buddy every single muslim would have taken up arms. This is not the case. only a handful of people are misguided in the wrong path and majority of muslims do condemn it and feel bad about it like u do.
Re: @All Right
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 12:32 AM
Precisely. India has 20 crore muslims. And about, let's say 200 terrorists among them. If the religion is really to blame like the Sangh Parivar propogates and gets professors on their payrolls to profess, we shud have had at least 19 crore 'islamis jehadis'. But this is logic. It is non-existent in immoral corridors where denial rules. If 50 million folks consider a terrorist a patriot, what do we call these 50 million folks?
Re: @All Right
by TRUTHISGOLDEN on Nov 05, 2008 12:56 AM
till date it was not proved what caused the fire sir. its a perception of hinduvta forces. if it was done by the mob of 500 muslims, they are not born to a single man and they are not muslims. but even after the godhra train many trains were gutted in fire and many died as an outcome due to short circuit and other reasons. well no issue was made then, may be coz elections were not around the corner. great humanity sir
Re: @All Right
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 12:58 AM
That's what u WANT to believe. The truth is that it was an accident. Read last month's tehelka, and pay your respects to Khetan Parekh, who came up with facts and evidence in a superlative effort at investigative journalism. By the way Parekh is as much a Hindu as u are, if not more. Satyamev jayate! I am a convert from Hinduism to Islam, but never was nor am a fanatic in either religion. My religion is MORALITY!
Re: @All Right
by DeshKiDhadkan on Nov 05, 2008 07:21 AM
Sadiq, unfortunately you wont believe in anything other than 1500 year old book, written by one man with litle bit of knowledge.. life long you live in a make believe world... which is far from truth.. to prove your point you can go to any extent.. everything you do is a part of bigger Propogonda..
Re: @All Right
by Balachandran on Nov 05, 2008 12:34 AM
Unfortunately and surprisingly, the silent majority is not heard at all. If the majority are moderates/peace-loving why don't they come out into the open and condemn the perpetrators openly? Are they afraid and think it is safer to keep quiet?
Re: @All Right
by TRUTHISGOLDEN on Nov 05, 2008 12:43 AM
who is talking about sadhvi sir. Can you go out in the open and support her. Even the so called patriotic bjp with hindu agenda doesnt do it in open. One day it says yeah she was from my party and iam proud, the other bafoon comes and says no we codemn this and she has nothing to do with us. boss we got better things to do. be it a hindu terrorist or muslim terrorist kill them right there and then. they have nothing to do with religion.
Re: Re: @All Right
by DeshKiDhadkan on Nov 05, 2008 07:24 AM
We wont believe that Sadhvi can go to that extent.. but we have our sympathy with her, as who forced her(large scale terrorism, & govt lolipops to terrorist) to go to this far... we will answer to those who made call are voilent reaction as terrorism..
Re: Re: @All Right
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 01:00 AM
Exactly. This is what i'm tryin to say. Punish or kill the terrorists irrespective of religion. DON'T SHOW DOUBLE STANDARDS!
Great strategy by the Hindutva Brigade. Engineer blasts. Blame Minorities. Create xenophobia. Make the government look soft on terror. Encash xenophobia as votes and win elections.
One arrest of a Sadhvi and the strategy comes crashing down with huge cost to pay at the hustings.
Re: Great Strategy But ........
by Agni on Nov 05, 2008 12:22 AM
Mr Amsari, Your Ass is laffing only coz of pseudos like kangress and its upporters.. time is up to shut that ass. Why are so many terrorists only muslims ? is that fabricated too ? And im talking world over.
Re: Re: Great Strategy But ........
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 12:49 AM
It is ur ignorance buddy. U believe Just what the low IQ Sangh Parivar wants you to believe. Why don't u think on ur own for a change. If u CAN.
Re: Great Strategy But ........
by R A on Nov 05, 2008 12:15 AM
All Right, you are not all right..... You see one single case which is not yet proved and you started saying strategies crashing and blah blah..... From decades, there are proven cases of muslim extremism, sikh extremism and all in india and u still are soft for that extremism probably you belong to either of them or you don't wanna see it.... You only see what you want to see and writing what you want to see happening and are making fool of yourself......keep going.....
Re: Great Strategy But ........
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:20 AM
One case???
Kanpur: A powerful explosion killed two people believed to be Hindutva activists in a mixed colony of Kanpur. The powerful explosion destroyed the door and walls of the room where it occurred.
Rajiv alias Piyush Mishra (25) and Bhupinder Singh (32) are among the dead, they both are reported to be Bajrang Dal members.
Police found eleven live bombs, and enough material to make nine additional bombs, seven timer devices, and batteries. Ammonium nitrate and potassium nitrate was also recovered from there.
Note Ammonuim Nitrate is the signature patent of the RSS. It is the same explosive used during the Bangalore & Ahmedabad blasts
Jitendra Kumar alias Babloo and Amresh Patel were arrested from the Ahrohra in Mirzapur district, about 300 km from Lucknow," police officer LR Bhasker told IANS. So what are Hindus doing getting caught for illegal possession of 1,100 detonators?
Thane was indeed by the 'Sanatan Prabhat' a terrorist hindu outfit and the culprits were arrested. Bal Thackeray personally congatulated this outfit.
In another incident few months back in Parbhani city in Maharashtra, two RSS activists were got killed as the bomb they were assembling got exploded.
Re: Re: Great Strategy But ........
by Hirendra Chatterjee on Nov 05, 2008 12:24 AM
You and your ilk have scant regard for the police as was evident in the Batla House case. But now you are eating out of the hands of the police like a dog. This is sheer hypocrisy. Why don't you ask for a judicial inquiry now?
Re: Great Strategy But ........
by R A on Nov 05, 2008 12:29 AM
I wonder if you remember the acts of muslim terrorisms....do you???? or they simply don't exist for you..... FYI, there are more muslim terrorst ORGANIZATIONS (not muslims, i m saying org) than the hair on your body....
Re: Re: Great Strategy But ........
by truth again on Nov 05, 2008 12:26 AM
Mr ALL RIGHT, if you have problems why dont you leave land of infideals and go some where else. This is hindu land and we will do what we want. You guys are outsiders and not welcomed here. So better for you to leave hindustan..
Re: Great Strategy But ........
by Syed Hussain on Nov 05, 2008 12:30 AM
Muslims need modern thinkers like Allama Iqbal. These illiterate mullahs only spread hatred from their mikes. But, in all honesty it must be said that Indian police is very communal. They help hindu mobs kill innocent muslims.
Re: Re: Great Strategy But ........
by Agni on Nov 05, 2008 12:24 AM
You take so much of pride in talking abt kanpur blast, why not talk about the Assam blast 70 killed. Mumbai train balst 200 killed. the list goes on ?
UPA GOVERNMENT IS SHOWING EXTRA HURRY TO ACCUSE SADHVI TO FIND GUILTY. SONIA AND COMPANY IS TRYING TO APPEASE THE MINORITY VOTE BANK. IF ANYONE DOESN'T THINK INIDA IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM, THEY CAN TAKE THE NEXT BOAT FROM WHERE EVER THEY CONVERTED FROM
Re: WHAT A HURRY
by Smiling on Nov 05, 2008 12:00 AM
I would not protest conviction of Sadhavi provided the cases of all muslims terrorists are speeded up and Afjal Guru's hanging is done.
Re: WHAT A HURRY
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:54 AM
By his own adnission, he is going crazy at the suspense. That's why he appealed to senile Advani. He requested Advani - hang me, so I can be a martyr and enjoy 72 virgins. At the moment, I am rotting in jail!
Re: WHAT A HURRY
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:34 AM
Life sentence, kept in suspense that any time one will be called to the gallows is a sentence worse than death. It is mental torture. Afzal admitted this. Saddam preferred death to life imprisonment.
What the scum Afzal is pleading is for Mercy Killing. Why BJP want to appease Afzal?
Why hang him so that this scum turns Martyr? For every martyr at least 10 more terrorists fill the ranks. For a martyr, he is happy. He gets to enjoy 72 virgins that much faster.
My point is this is a assymetrical warfare. No law, no conventional warfare will work. When fanatism leads one being prepared to suicide bomb, then we as society should provide an incentive that lowers fanaticism - not fan the conditions that great more numbers
Re: WHAT A HURRY
by ASingh on Nov 05, 2008 12:03 AM
The bas**rds in UPA must be hanged even before Afzal as they are responsible for this situation more than any group or organization....55 yrs of misrule is the sole reason...
The concept of blood money in Saudi Arabia . If a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay blood money or compensation, as follow.
* 100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man * 50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman * 50,000 riyals if a Christian man * 25,000 riyals if a Christian woman * 6,666 riyals if a Hindu man * 3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman
According to this hierarchy, a Muslim man's life is worth 33 times that of a Hindu woman. This hierarchy is based on the Islamic definition of human rights.
Where as in India you will find all the politicians including so called secularists visting victims if they are mulsims or christians. They also anounce compensations and support to the accused. But Hindus are left to fend for themselves.
Re: Saudi Arabia is better than India, for Hindus
by Anpu mani on Nov 04, 2008 11:55 PM
In kerala 3 years ago there was a communal clash when 9 hindus was killede by a unilateral attack by muslims in a seashore.the killed was fishermen hindus.during the clash one attacker was also killed.The government lede by congress anounced 10 lakh rupees compensation for killed hindus.To pacify muslim attackers government announced 10 lakh for the killed attacker also.Protesting against this the hindu family rejected the offer but the killer family got 10 lakh incash and then CM Mr.A.K. antony presented the cash for the criminal's family.
Re: Saudi Arabia is better than India, for Hindus
by Dravidan on Nov 05, 2008 12:34 AM
What happened in Gujarat in 2002? Compenstion for those who died in train fire and compensation for those who were killed in riots?
Re: Re: Re: Saudi Arabia is better than India, for Hindus
by Agni on Nov 05, 2008 12:14 AM
do yo u have any idea what you are speaking ? are you out of a movie theatre just now ?
Re: Saudi Arabia is better than India, for Hindus
by Agni on Nov 05, 2008 12:12 AM
All truth is spoken only by mullahs and terror outfits like IM and SIMI. that they are targeted and all blasts are done by hindus.
Re: Saudi Arabia is better than India, for Hindus
by Agni on Nov 05, 2008 12:20 AM
You friend has already made a mention of them. No need to repeat stuff
it is time hindus be vigilant there is a concerted effort to weaken the hindus, already certain elements have divided the society in caste/ regions/alnguage, and finnaly the aliens agenda to impose themselves is created, let them also know that adi shankara/ramanuja/madhava/vallabha/nimbakra/ramkrishna parahansa/vivekandnda/gandhi/sardar patel guru tej bahadur/guru gbind singh/shivaji maharaj/krishna deva raya/emperor ashoka/Akbar/rana pratap/prithviraj chauhan/chandragupta/kansika/cholas/bhosles/peshwas/wodeyars/prataprudra devaraya/alluri seetaramraya/tyagraja/raja bhoja and many others are the ideals of this nation, and if a few inspired the western christian agenda cannot be implemented in this nation, so the UPA should concentrate on anti nationals, from pakistan/bangladesh/china/dubai/saudi arabia are checked first and then only they can do the home work on sadhvi ( a lady) pragya thakur can be probed the cause and the reasons of any radical feelings coming in the nation.
Re: hindus targeted
by All Right on Nov 04, 2008 11:53 PM
But then Hindutva forces and Jehadi Islamic forces care oming together to blast India to pieces. How can a so-called patriotic force kill common citizens?
Re: Excellent Strategy But......
by prosperousindia on Nov 04, 2008 11:52 PM
Islamic terrorism is a world wide phenomena and must be crushed jointly/unitedly by all the countries. Pak, B'desh, Iran, Iraq, Afganisthan, Chechnia, USA, Russia, China everywhere. When someone says all muslims are not terrorists but allmost all terrorists are muslims and almost all muslims support terrorism from the heart of heart directly or indirectly- it appears to be true.
Re: Re: Excellent Strategy But......
by Sadiq Ansari on Nov 05, 2008 12:08 AM
This mesage is directed at All Right! How I wish there were more just, fair and intellectual Hindus than present as evident on these message boards. A sadhvi is fine if she kills innocents, in fact a saint. A maulvi is a terrorist. LOW IQ, cheapos living in denial all the time! Sickenung man, this hypocrisy. Not a single fair, just and moral Hindu left?
Re: Sadhavi --- an agent of Dawood
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:09 AM
That's right. Hindutva forces and Jehadi Islamic forces coming together to blast India to pieces. This is a WIN-WIN situation for both as they succeed in polarising the nation. Scary!
Re: Sadhavi --- an agent of Dawood
by Agni on Nov 04, 2008 11:45 PM
If hindus like you vote for the govt who have been so supportive of terrorist islamic group liek simi, what else can be done ? Who is going to protect the hindu interest ?
Re: Sadhavi --- an agent of Dawood
by Agni on Nov 04, 2008 11:55 PM
Where was your view point when kashmiri pandits were chased out of the state ? When the imam openly support the simi terrorist. When hindu are targeted by organized way.
Why is the minority life so precious and hindu life with out value ?
Re: Sadhavi --- an agent of Dawood
by Agni on Nov 05, 2008 12:11 AM
courage is in getting killed at the hands of militants and yet be silent. Are you crazy ?
After all the treatment we got at the hands of our own countrymen. thier support for islam is more than india.
Re: Sadhavi --- an agent of Dawood
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:06 AM
You are confusing tolerance with cowardice. It takes greater courage of gaining control of emotions and doing what is right, what is consistent with our religious values.
Re: Sadhavi --- an agent of Dawood
by All Right on Nov 05, 2008 12:36 AM
That's right. Hindutva forces and Jehadi Islamic forces coming together to blast India to pieces. This is a WIN-WIN situation for both as they succeed in polarising the nation. Scary!
