Each time an Indian city or embassy is hit by Islamic terror, within hours morons like this writer or B Raman come out with an article telling us the "message" of the terrorists and how we must pander further to the Islamo-fascists.
The real question: how do these guys know the message of the terrorists, what connection does he have with them? Police should investigate him.
It is like Nakkeeran returning without fail with cassette-messages from the forest brigand Veerappan, while the police of two states could not trace him.
This is not the first time terrorists have attacked the sovereignty of India.
Indira Gandhi, permitted the most ruthless terrorists and fascist LTTE to set up camps in India and made the terrorists stronger.
Before long, the LTTE terrorists repaid their debt by killing her son, Rajiv Gandhi to bits and pieces, which had to be scraped off the ground, along with several innocent Indian civilians.
Hence, the world knows who and what the LTTE terrorists are capable of and error in judgment made by India and the terrorist Pirapharan of the LTTE is yet to be captured by India.
In these circumstances it is of utmost importance that India demonstrates to the world, effective counter terrorism measures that would be put in place, so that the LTTE terrorists will never ever be able to commit such atrocities in the Indian soil and more importantly, have effective naval and air surveillance, to prevent the LTTE terrorists spreading terrorism, whether be in India or Sri Lanka.
The lessons learned by India, when pandering to whims and fancies of the LTTE terrorists have been bitter lessons.
Hence, if History is a learning curve, India ought to have learned the lesson well, never to align herself with any terrorist group, whether the terrorists are operating within India or in Sri Lanka.
India must take further initiative steps to counter terrorism from Asia.
Sri Bhadrakumar could have saved himself and us time and effort over this article. He could have said, "My advice is: Be nice to everybody, stay within India. Oh, do ever be suspicious of the Americans, all others are " A Okay "!!
Who are Afghans / Mongoloids who mixed up with Indian blood while they rampaged and invaded Pak and india.
Knowing all this if still India tries to build infrastructure , aid etc., India is proving that thge old shame perpetrated on Indians and Pakistan are not suufcient. Sacrificing the children of mother India like Rao and many of those skilled brainy human beings made to participate in the reconstruction of abominable mountain and desert region of India's enemies.
They want another invasion to offer their wealth and women to the marauders hungry for sex, wealth and attractive tropic bounties unavailable to the mountain creatures.
They left their drops of blood in these continents.....while they were busy rampaging, rioting,burning,raping, plundering, carrying back women to their lands and leaving their blood in India and pak..... orphaned.....confused....called Mohajirs !!!
Gross violation of HUMAN RIGHTS. They are still escaping punishment......justifyingg through religious beliefs.
Mr Bhadrakumar is known leftist sympathist and more known for his anti American stands. He comes often in rediff and also in Malayalam channels to discuss geppolitics.
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Bhadran sir says :
"The first point to be noted is that the Taliban has once again chosen to target Indian interests, which are located on Afghan soil. They haven't stretched their long arm to act on Indian soil. Even though our army chief recently speculated "
=> Well, Bhadran sir knows more than army chiefs .Also the expousre by various news channels about the training received by Indian boys on Taliban territories also not enough proof ..Good sir.
Let us see some points from the article itself:
Mr Bhadrakumar has his IFS services carried out mostly in countries on the side of Soviate Union ,I do not think he has ever been psted in US or western Urope. (I think his kabul assigmentw as also during the period of USSr occupation- not sure)
OK..That is history for u.
Now coming to the points, I am sorry to say the the intent was visible and hideen but it comes out in spite of his best efforts.
In a nut shell, what are told is that, Dont blame Taliban, Dont Blame Pakistan, but Blame US and Indian strategists who are in favour of aligning with US. (But never ever blame Taliban or Pakistan for whatever happened -This is importnant..Wonderful Bhadran sir. :-))
RE:Bhadrakumar sir, pld take a break..!
by rationalist on Jul 12, 2008 03:38 PM
Bhadran sir says:
"The Taliban message is that they have a score to settle with India's Afghan policy; that it is best settled on Afghan soil; and that they do not have any hostility toward India as such."
Yes sir, we all know , they are v nice people, never wanted to hurt India, just that they wanted teacxh India in their soli..No they have ever thought bad about India otherwise -nice people right..? If u have doubt ask Bhadran sir.. :-)
"it is tragic, immoral and contemptible if we indeed are cynical enough to overlook the suffering that we would be inflicting on the friendly Afghan people -- who barely eke out a living as it is "
Same Bhdran sir says later :
"it is plain unrealistic to overlook Pakistan's legitimate interests in Afghanistan"
So what we should understand is , whioe India intervening in afghansistan for indian interest is un ethican , Pakistan have "legitimate" interest In afgan soil..Vow Bhadran sir.. Good job..!
Bhdran sir says :
"Third, we will be annoying or alienating the Pakistani military, which is a crucial segment of the Pakistani establishment."
Yes yes, we should annoy apkistani milatary, After all they have already helped us in many ways,for ex in kargil war, We should be greateful ..of course sir, u r r ight !!
And some other interesting sentenses from article
"China's fascinating example of national .."
Goose pimples . sir when u wrote that "fascinating" word when u describe china.. I searched sir all ur a
RE:Bhadrakumar sir, pld take a break..!
by rationalist on Jul 12, 2008 03:44 PM
I serached all of ur artcile sir, not even a sigle "fascinating" aspect about India sir, sir why is that..?
Mr Bhadrakumar is laboring under the misconception or rather delusions that if India stays out of Afghanistan, the Taliban will regard India as a friend and leave her go her merry way. Nothing is further from the truth. The Taliban is no more just a purely Afghan-centric movement, but has been completely synergized with the hardline, fundamentalist AlQuaieda movement, seeing itself as the frontline army against the enemies of Islam, and having been brain-washed by their Paki bosses, that India is their major enemy in the 'hood, especially being a 'kaffir'(Hindu-majority) country - the ideal target. And despite all the 'secularist' appeasement clap-crap from the Left and Congies, these Islamo-fascists will never cease their attacks against India, as long as Pakistan exists and India remains predominantly Hindu -it has very little to do with the US invasion. After all, Taliban was created by Pakistan as its proxy army, first to overrun and rule Afghanistan at their behest, and then to be their foot-soldiers in their proxy way with India. It's time you folks got real, and stop looking through rose-tinted glasses.
That US creation of Taliban to oppose USSR is the worst blunder in history. That the US support to Pakistan to counter India and USSR is another major blunder in history. That before all these the creation of Pakistan as a Islamic state was the mother of all blunders. Given the current situation India should have its army deployed on Afghan border to help the NATO troops as our soldiers are far better trained to fight in such terrains then the Americans or Brits. That the Americans should stop all aid to Pakistan till it can take a clear stance of no support to Islamic or any other terror group. That all said and done if Afghan goes back into the hands of Islamic militia India will be doomed and the NATO nations would be at grave terror risk.
Much has been commented on the Bhadrakumar long winded piece, but we must know India's Afghanistan policy is Intelligence led like OP Pawan was in Sri Lanka. This has been admitted by those in the know. MOD has little say and IFS likes this, and there is big money involved. RAW and IB had very good rapport with late Leader Masood Shah King of the Panjir North and India led by Int agencies had hopes of controlling the South to teach ISI ( Taliban) a lesson. Mosood we know was killed in a clever attack. Our Int plan seems to have gone awry and our out posts all over in Kandhahar and south that Bhadrakumar lists have not delivered. Its proxy was between India and Pak agencies. Naturally as Bhadrakumar explains Indian military is helping the Tajic Afghan Northerners get trained to screw the Pashtuns and ISI, will be resented. Any Pakistani would and Musharraf has served in Afghanistan and we are babes in the woods as Bhadrakumar puts it in complexities of the area.
India is carrying out projects which makes Southern Afghanis and Taliban(ISI) upset so Indian Embassy in down town Kabul was an easy and doable target. My worry is if Iran stops our transit how will our $ 1 bill aid go to Afghanistan. India will be stuck. As Jeeves said its also about easy money as there is no accounting in Indian Intellgence matters as Maj gen VK Singh explains in his book so do we think there is in war torn Afghnaistan, and have you not heard of USA's Blackwater and their misdeeds in
RE:Afghanistan Is India's Intelligence Agencies Led Op Like Sri Lanka
by JonBonJovi on Jul 12, 2008 01:04 PM
india has no phuckin business in afghanistan.u welcomed ussr( your friends then) invasion of afghanistan, so much so that u gave najib refuge too. now taliban broke the back of ur friends the mighty russians and u want to rebuild? with which face? and its borders are contingent with pak not u,its a security implication for us, this is not 1971 where u can seduce the begalis, this is 2008 things have changed.indo russians plans were thwarted by nujahedeens. but the bigger pic which u all forget is Gwadar on straits of hormoz which china is building with pak.china will get free access givin pakistan a control of the hormoz straits. its there raw and cia trying to abduct chinese engg plus supporting the sepratist baluchs.when we do it in kashmir u cry like babies.haha
RE:Afghanistan Is India's Intelligence Agencies Led Op Like Sri Lanka
by Varun Shekhar on Jul 16, 2008 03:06 AM
What crap, JonBonJovi. India is doing very good work in Afghanistan, building roads, schools, hospitals and the parliament building, among many other things. The Afghan people as a whole, and Karzai, have no problem with Indian assistance to their economy. It's Pakistan and the Taliban performing all the garbage. Pakistan as a country is based on religious hatred and separatism, and anti-India, anti-secular and anti-Hindu feeling.
