RE:US Buggers
by PAL on Jul 09, 2008 09:31 AM
It is India PM Manmohan who has to be blamed. not US people or president. India PM lacks leadership skills.
RE:RE:US Buggers
by sesame on Jul 09, 2008 02:10 PM
It is well within the powers of the current Congress to pass the Bill...if they don't it would just mean that they have been toying with us all along. Nobody likes to be taken for a ride, least of all sovereign nations with long public memories
All: You might be aware that Uranium is the past and may be just near future BUT Thorium is the future and India already has a HHEEAADD start in this technology....way ahead of other developed nations....moreover Thorium is abundantly available in India...infact India has second largest reserves of Thorium in the world, only after Australia....
Surprisingly, MMS has made this DEAL as his family deal disregarding the legitimate concerns of the millions.....just to take credit for just a lopsided deal....
And these millions are definitely not LEFT i.e., CPM(Anti-India, Anti-Hindu) supporters who have a pathological problem with development.....
And when it is Congress you can never be sure they will work in the best interest of this nation...atleast their track record of last 60 years suggest doesnot suggest so.....they work for a private limited company with a parochial goal of sychophancy...
RE:Thorium
by ouch on Jul 09, 2008 09:02 AM
Mr DRIP DRIP, India has no science and technology to process thorium. It is still some few years away if not decades away, this deal is a short-term deal to tide over high fuel prices and to diversify our energy base. Since you are not a LEFT Supporter are you a chaddi knicker RSS/BJP supporter?
RE:RE:Thorium
by abhishek bose on Jul 09, 2008 10:32 AM
Dude - if this is hsort term please tell us how much moeny we plan to expend in imports and what is the power we get say in the next 5 years till 20 years
Energy security? - CRAP !!!! we get energy from internal reosurces like coal (thermal) and hydro
to look for alternate against coal (approx 100 yrs) it is smarter to go for thorium which we have internally , why r we not looking at renewable like wind , hydro and tide? ?
RE:Thorium
by sood on Jul 09, 2008 10:55 AM
@ Bose u are rite buddy.....we have our own resources and we should utilize them instead of being depended on NSG......India has the skills but loose the will and these politicians makes things more tough......politician can spend crores in abroad travels, Z security, canvassing, etc but dont want to spend on Reseach and development.....I think India is self sufficient and all we need is technology advancement which can be achieved if our scientics are provided with funds......remember way back when US imposed ban on India during Ponkhran test......we were able to make our 1st supercomputer PARAM.........Jai Hind
RE:Thorium
by jagar singh on Jul 09, 2008 01:34 PM
we will have right to process.it will allow deals with russia and others.it will provide time to develop thorium tech.next conress may not be generous,so the hurry.
RE:Thorium
by Jagannath Pattanayak on Jul 09, 2008 08:47 AM
Mr DRP. You can't run a reactor straightaway with thorium. Do some research first before saying something foolish here. I am not a political man, but all the garbage talks against the nuclear deal really enrage me.
You need to know that India needs some energy security very badly and the nuclear deal is for the good.
RE:Thorium
by abhishek bose on Jul 09, 2008 10:29 AM
who told u we get energy security by adopting nuclear power - it will only give us 4% plus make us depend on imports
generating power with imports is not exactly energy security.
The trick is to adopt renewable sources till Thorium technology is successful
I would aslo add our support / reservation to the deal is not based on complete onfo so the indian public should rather ask the following
1> Why the sudden hurry when this can be doen next year as well?
2> Why are we not pushing other intenral sources - renewable and thorium instead of running behind an import based expesnive option
RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by chirag patel on Jul 09, 2008 08:14 AM
the problem is MM singh is not doing what he is capable and expected to do...mainly because back-steering by royal "gandhi" family. In that case BJP is 10000000 times better. there hasnt been any new reform happened in last four years and unfortunately for indian people, india is on backtrack to 1991 stages. At least BJP knows how to sustain the growth, unlike congress party. Its not BJP agains MM Singh...it is BJP vs congress and i would choose BJP everytime.
RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by ouch on Jul 09, 2008 09:06 AM
you are the biggest fool on earth, the only person in BJP/NDA in favour of reforms is AB Vajpayee and to much littler extent Advani, the remaining are a bunch of thugs who want India to be divided between Hindus and Muslims and to see to it that Ram Temple is always on the front-burner rather development issues. If not AB Vajpayee we would not have seen any reforms during NDA rule.
RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by True Indian on Jul 09, 2008 09:59 AM
Miss ouch, you are actually a real foolish. you gave 55 yrs to congress and 5 yrs to BJP. in this 5 yrs, you are judging BJPs negative points. any you are authorised to do that, but then judge congress negative points of last 55 yrs. if you had allocated budget for 1 dam every year, in 55 years we would have had 55 hydro projects.
RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by ouch on Jul 09, 2008 10:20 AM
if you know how bad India was in 1947 you would not have spoken like this. India in 1947 had no roads, no electricity, no industries, no banks, no money, no enterpreneurs, very few urbanites and very few educated Indians. On top of that India was surrounded by a hostile state Pakistan favoured by US. So to even reach this position is a fantastic achievement for which congress has to be given its due. Also remember that reforms were initiated by MMS one of the finest development economists in the entire world. This guy could have so easily been in world bank , IMF, Citibank etc earning millions. Instead he politics and helped India on its way by initiating reforms in the past and by forging nuclear deal. Only China growth is more impressive than India. US and other european powers and japan which are considered industrialized took a long time to reach the position they are today. So before you bark something know something
RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by PAL on Jul 09, 2008 09:33 AM
Albert.. keep your mouth shut. tell the nation what he did as a PM. Nothing. as a finance minister he did a great job because of the great leader (Chanakya) PV.
RE:RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by sood on Jul 09, 2008 11:07 AM
@ Ouch Congress in 55 yrs has sold India to Pakistan, and China. Nehru could have solved the Kashmir issue at that time but he was selfish guy and didnt made clear issue on Kashmir and thts the reason we lost more than a half of Kashmir to Pakistan.........since Pakistan was incapable to keep the whole kashmir they gave some of it to China has a friendship courtesy .........and after 55 yrs again congress and LEFT(Anti India) are thinking to give Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh to China to extend their friendship.....what a Shame Congress & LEFT are doing selling their own country........
RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by jagar singh on Jul 09, 2008 01:39 PM
could you afford to ignore world powers in 1947 and take the rest of kashmir?
RE:LOSER ADVANI GANG AND ORAL Diarrhea
by DRP on Jul 09, 2008 08:42 AM
All: You might be aware that Uranium is the past and may be just near future BUT Thorium is the future and India already has a HHEEAADD start in this technology....way ahead of other developed nations....moreover Thorium is abundantly available in India...infact India has second largest reserves of Thorium in the world, only after Australia....
Surprisingly, MMS has made this DEAL as his family deal disregarding the legitimate concerns of the millions.....just to take credit for just a lopsided deal....
And these millions are definitely not LEFT i.e., CPM(Anti-India, Anti-Hindu) supporters who have a pathological problem with development.....
And when it is Congress you can never be sure they will work in the best interest of this nation...atleast their track record of last 60 years suggest doesnot suggest so.....they work for a private limited company with a parochial goal of sychophancy...
The key concerns expressed by the Left parties regarding the IAEA Safeguards Agreement and which have not been addressed by the UPA are the following:
• In case the U.S. or other countries in the NSG renege on fuel supply assurances for imported reactors, will we have the ability to withdraw these reactors from IAEA safeguards?
• If U.S./NSG countries renege on fuel supply assurances, can we withdraw our indigenous civilian reactors from IAEA Safeguards?
• If we have to bring nuclear fuel from the non-safeguarded part of our nuclear programme for these reactors in case of fuel supply assurances not being fulfilled, will we have the ability to take it back again?
• What are the corrective steps that India can take if fuel supplies are interrupted by the U.S./NSG countries?
• What are the conditions that India will have to fulfill if the corrective steps are to be put into operation? Once the text of the Safeguards Agreement is approved by the IAEA Board of Governors, which is what the UPA Government seeks to do now, the subsequent steps require no participation at all by the Government of India. It is the U.S. Government that takes the next steps - moving the NSG countries for the waiver and then placing the 123 Agreement before the U.S. Congress.
Therefore, it is critical for the country that the IAEA Safeguards Agreement is discussed with full transparency and not kept secret. Why is the Manmohan Singh Government keeping the draft of the IAEA A
RE:INDIA CHAPTER IS CLOSED!!!!
by yousuf jawahar on Jul 09, 2008 05:37 AM
If India's chapter is "CLOSED" (past tense), how are things still happening in the future ("WILL")?
Nice work astrologer. You are not even sure which frame of time to predict.
RE:INDIA CHAPTER IS CLOSED!!!!
by Amit Kumar on Jul 09, 2008 04:11 AM
Where is your office MR astrologer.. I would like to show you my palm... you are too good..
”Obviously, the steps are quite clear. India will have to finalise the safeguards agreement and get it cleared from the board of the IAEA . The NSG will have to agree to alter its guidelines (to allow) international trade (of nuclear material with India).” It seems India has to 'move up and down' to get clearance from various organizations and finally meet the US administration for the final word. It is better to ran away from the deal (at least now) rather than get humiliated by the up an down run. According to the N-deal, India has to knock many doors for every issue to be sorted out. And finally the US. It is humiliating. US has the Atomic Energy Act and the Hyde act (India centric and enabling act) which are to supervise the N-deal. It is nothing but humiliation to insist an international treaty to be within the ambit of a national Law. But MMS team hide this truth. They say Hyde act has nothing to do with the deal. Are they fooling Indians? From the statements we can feel the top most importance the US has given to the 123 agreement. Is it in India's interest? No country can make India into a great power. (Read Manvendra Singh “The nuclear deal's essence is politics”) MMS team should realize this. MMS is acting like a diffident child. Or he is very intelligent to get his ego satisfied.
RE:The truth is out
by Rajendra Nayak on Jul 09, 2008 06:01 AM
Your views are correct. Every Nuclear Scientist of Indian origin knows where the Uranium is present. With a backing of 1 billion Indians who can bring down the world business our PM should have the guts to say that our businessmen will procure the Uranium from open market from countries which will provide us. Go with fleets of Indian navy and bring Uranium. Which bloody world leader has guts to stop our navy is a big question. Nobody will dare to intervene because we have 400 millions who purchase their products and once for all the world leaders will shut their mouth. Give us uranium or we will not allow you to sell your products in India. Businessmen who are interested in Indian market will bring down the governments who are against India.They are bothered above money rather than Uranium head aches. The general election will bring down the business opportunities of many world businessmen. Uranium is present in Africa and many places. It is our intelligence department which has to search all over the world. There are large number of Indian projects all over the world and the soil scientists should be deployed to find radioactive elements. US has entered Iraq for oil and not to impose democracy which was already there. Saddam was a man with 7o mm broad image and there was no terrorism in Iraq before. Here we are infighting like street dogs and outsiders are taking advantage.
RE:The truth is out
by sreeram srinivas on Jul 09, 2008 07:13 AM
I agree, this unscrupulous business earlier in the name of agriculture revoloution had Urea pushed on to throat, now the same Urea is a concern of global warming. Indians technical workers do not get work visas abroad, often biased, whereas we continue to give licenses for FDI...etc. without any controls. Now they want unrestricted access to agricultural produce. The core of politics is business. If you play the proper game, everyone would come on their toes to you. USA wants India more than we aspring them - reason they want to contain China. USA tried all this years, now realize they have failed on this front for over 50 yrs now. I remember a fellow Indian commenting if China stops exports, all USA would revolt against their own govt. Reason- shortage of sanitary napkins,...which are imported from China. So business rules. India now requires tech savvy businessman to enter politics.
RE:The truth is out
by jagar singh on Jul 09, 2008 01:45 PM
obviously,usa has a business angle to the deal.but no country can supply you uranium without NPT adherence.
RE:The truth is out
by Sudip Bhattacharjee on Jul 09, 2008 06:28 AM
I read your post. With all respect, I would like to know if there is any other country than USA who is willing to supply uranium without India being asked to sign NPT.
RE:The truth is out
by Rajendra Nayak on Jul 09, 2008 10:20 PM
I hear from some geologist friends of mine that Congo has Uranium deposits. It is the intelligence departments of the government who have to deal with all these and not common Indians as to which part of the world is having what. Because under the Atomic Energy Act even RTI application will not stand. Indian government need not give any answer to any queries about matters coming under Atomic Energy Act. But when ordinary geologists know, why have we been waiting till 2008 when we know that Uranium is required. There should have been goody friendship gestures with these countries which have deposits and we could have given them aid and sent our people there to analyse their soil. It is now too late and the past is past. Let us now face the consequences for not exploring the other parts. The new breed of Indian businessmen are brilliant and are much smarter than the Caucasians and Israleis because they are setting up enterprises even on small islands. Thus the future is bright for India because we can study and explore raw materials in other countries in the name of business.
RE:The truth is out
by manihs gupta on Jul 09, 2008 07:22 AM
no need to uranium from any country. we have ample reserve of thorium, so its better to have some research how to convert thorium into uranium or intsted of uranium based reactor we can establish thorium based reactor. in this way we dont have to bow our head towards such wicked person. america dont do anything without their interests. they dont want betterment of india then why they are very keen in deal. definately america and some other developed countries want stronghold on india. i know that politicians know this fact very weill excet leaders like amar sing, lalu or mulayam (they dont have mind to understand such matters) but still they want to go ahead with deal. our PM is impotent, he doesnt do anything by himself. he has to wait for signal from that foreign lady even what to speak in press. the only beneficiary from this deal would be multinational capital good companies which will sell their products to india.
RE:The truth is out
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 07:20 AM
-- USA does not have uranium. It buys it from Russia. You have internet. Move your fingers on the keyboard and do you own research. USA closed uranium mines because they were dangerous and expensive. Mining uranium is not like mining coal. That is why anyone advocating that India should build energy security on nuclear energy does not know the very basic of nuclear power.
