its time that muslims question everything that is happening with them. they are being continuously fooled by their political/religious/social leaders as well as these so called "seculars", they have been kept uneducated and poor by all these so that they serve as their vote banks, muslims in general ultimately lose everywhere. it is time to question all leaders. they have been fooling muslims in the name of religion, in the name of god, in the name of everything, our religion is in danger that is what all religious leaders will tell them (same goes for hindus), i think no religion is in danger because religion is so great that it can not be in danger, but these leaders keep poisioning mind of common muslims, and they try to make sure that they do not become INDIAN or mix in mainstream, muslims must come out of all such leadership which is creating negativity in them. i also feel that most of them is in favor of COMMON CIVIL CODE they also wud be happy to have one wife and 2 children bcs that is very practical and useful in today's world, but these smart leaders do not want that.
for example by saying that if we hang afzal guru then muslims will be unhappy and they will not vote for us is an insult to all the muslims, they are trying to say that all muslims favor all terrorists.this is an insult to all muslims.most of the common muslims of india needs good education for their children, good life style, safe environment, good job and respect.
Re: who are the real enemies of muslims?
by mohammed sadiq shariff on Dec 06, 2008 08:18 PM
Answer to ur questions: 1) Islam is not a new religion. It tells you to follow one god which is there in hindu scriptures too. But hindus still follows some millions of idols and dummy characters as god. Hinduism is not a religion. 2)Islam spread with the power of sword. People have used this excuse to stop people from entering into the folds of islam and thanks to Allah alone they never succeeded. How is indonesia happened to be the highest islam following nation when no war or invasion happened. In india if muslims forcibly converted non muslims to islam. Then very existence of hindus in india gives testimony to the fact that no force was used else you would have been a muslim now. Cos we both are sure you did not reverted to islam and follow hinduism as your religion of fore fathers. 3) Our ancestors reverted to islam due to force. Well i dont agree but if they did, then they made a right decision and we are proud of it. But i am sure that was not the case :-). 4) Islam had not fed us with hatred and instead made us more human and thought us to like other human beings.
So if you feel reading your above crap someone will convert from islam then you are fool as many others in this board abusing muslims and islam.
History is history. We cannot go back and change history. Whatever happened during the time of muslim invasion was a thing of their time. We cannot deny it or change it. If we keep fighting over it then there is no progress at all. We must remember that we are first human beings in individual capacity. Without society , science etc , we are incapable of doing anything. There is no reason why we should prove that we are superior over others. Let's leave history for the books and unite as human beings first. Religion should be practiced within the 4 walls. Be it a temple or mosque , it's a place of worship. If its your belief to worship Rama , It is their belief to worship Allah . What seems important or dear to you may not be perceived in the same way by the other. Gods don't fight , fools (like us) fight about which god is superior not realising it is the one and the same god. Intelligent and sensible people understand this difference , How about you ?
Re: History
by Indian on Dec 07, 2008 01:04 AM
Zahiruddin Mohammad is more commonly know by his nickname, Babur (February 14, 1483-December 26, 1530) was a Mughal emperor from Central Asia . He was responsible for establishment of Mughal Empire in India .
Babur was a vicious killer. Read his own account in Baburnama:
“For the sake of Islam I became a wanderer, I battled the infidel Hindus, I determined to become a martyr, Thank God I became a Killer of Non-Muslims!” “I attacked Chanderi and by the grace of Allah captured it in a few hours. We got the infidels slaughtered and the place which had been Daru’l-Harb (nation of non-muslim) for years was made into a Daru’l-Islam (Muslim nation).”!
Re: History
by Bharat on Dec 06, 2008 08:36 PM
Why don't i build my bungalow over your house with the help of goondas and then just accept it because i already built my bungalow... But here is the Ulitmate Mystery that will solve why Hindus never get their Rights...Why existenace of Lord Ram is questioned.... Who hooked up sonia to Rajiv ...and why.., ReOpen Sanjay Gandhi murder case (Crash), Indira Gandhi (Shots - Open murder), Rajiv Gandhi Murder case (Blown up), , Rajesh Pilot murder case (accident), Madhavrao Schindia murder case (Accident)....Find out circumstances of Sitaram kesri removed from power unceremoniously, find out why Narasimha Rao was ostracised, Who made the route to have access to sensitive Indian information......What happened to the novel in which Great Leader Narasimha was exposing the mole within the government.Do you see a trend..i can't see it..can you..Let TRUTH be EXPOSED....
Re: Some ''oonchi jaati ke hindu'' (upper caste hindu) supporters of BJP/RSS, blame all things ill on Congress & taking credit of all things good.
by newnewgen on Dec 06, 2008 07:51 PM
All are indians fools?
When china attacked in 1962 war; it was RSS which went to the war front and fought the war. How many muslim organization fought the war?
Re: Re: Some ''oonchi jaati ke hindu'' (upper caste hindu) supporters of BJP/RSS, blame all things ill on Congress & taking credit of all things good.
by mohammed sadiq shariff on Dec 06, 2008 08:30 PM
Hi,
So you mean our indian army was called RSS before ??? If not then how did they go into the war zone ? Raising dumbo slogans are not fighting war. If there is a War fought in india the credit should go to the people who actually fought and common sense says it is our Indian army. So dont give the credit to some one who doesnt deserve it. It is high time people from all the religion come together and help is peacefull existence of human beings from all the religions. When ever there a bomb blast or terrorist act muslims in huge number are out behind bars. Muslims leaders come forward and accuse the police as being anti muslim and put doubts in the justice and legal system of india. This makes many of the common muslim people look at police as someone against them. Similarly this time when ATS got some clues about hindus being involved in some terrorist act, hindu leaders started doing the same. Acussing of ATS being anti hindu. This brought doubts in the mind of common hindus. So accusing muslims leaders is not right cos when the ball was in ur court you did the same. When Jamia millia decided to provide legal help to those accused it was raised as inappropiate by some hindus. But when the same people from VHP/RSS wanted to provide legal help to sadhvi it was looked upon as patriotism. Stop this kind of hatred spreading and bring doubts in the mind of common people who are already having to struggle to buy two times meal. Be good human beings and love all.
The Swamis & Sadhus will dictate the Govt. The President & PM will have to regularly salute the Head of India's religious Institutions who will be living in the President's House. (The President will be staying somewhere close, but that is immaterial). The Head Swami will be a BJP RSS VHP man. Everything in India will be dictated by these saffron clad long bearded dhoti clad Sadhu sect. Modern Science & English will be replaced by Sanskrit, Ayurved studies etc. Cities & Streets in India will be renamed after Ramayan / Mahabharat Scripts & characters. Mumbai could be Mumba Devi.
There will be an Hindu Army. There will be a Brahmin Regiment, A Kshatriya Regiment, A Kayasth Regiment & a Shudra Regiment. Obviously we all know what you would expect the Shudra Regiment to do in the Army. And what Brahmin Regiment will do.
Similarly only Brahmins for top Police, Administrative & creamy jobs. The lower cadre & menial jobs for L Castes & Dravidians.
Then India will be ruled by crooked clever crows & it will be a Ram (or HEY RAM) Rajya. Child marriage, & Sati will be legalized to save hindu women’s asmita. Ladies who will not adhere will be labeled “Charitraheen” (characterless) & ostracized. Can be raped by Upper castes. Careful. Then Politics will be fought on the Sects like Brahmin, Baniya, Jaat, etc. Brahmin will plant bombs & blame lower castes. No votes by Lower caste.
So the fooling & ruling of Hindus by U Castes will continue. Hey Ram
Re: Suppose if India is a purely Hindu Country, then what could be the scenario (BJP RSS dream India), ruled by Oonchi jaat ke hindus
by Vishwamithran TKB on Dec 06, 2008 11:54 PM
It ill far better than a Mommadan's (A B..C ..T..HU) raj. Becase Mommadan's raj, 60 years old will be f..k ng 5 & 7 years old children. So is the case case with daughter in laws. Now get lost!
Re: Suppose if India is a purely Hindu Country, then what could be the scenario (BJP RSS dream India), ruled by Oonchi jaat ke hindus
by RAJU KHAN on Dec 06, 2008 09:45 PM
It will be btter than Mohammad/Terrorist Raj.What was the character of your Pof Mohammed, is by now known to everybody? Don't pretend to be innocent.
Dear Manish, You have said a lot of nonsense on this board & abused Islam. Read the foll. & enjoy with ur beti & behan. Do you know what is the relation between Brahma (creator of Hindu Universe), Saraswati and Swayambhumaru. As per "Saraswati Puran" it goes like this : When Brahma (father of sarwswati) saw the beauty of Saraswati he became amorous. To escape from her father’s passionate approach Saraswati ran to the lands in all four directions, but she could not escape from her father. She succumbed to Brahma’s wish. Brahma and his daughter Saraswati lived as husband and wife indulging in incest for 100 years. They had a son Swayambhumaru. Swayambhumaru made love with his sister Satarpa. Through the incest of Brahma’s son and daughter Brahma got two grandsons and two grand-daughters". So here we have father fuc*ing daughters and enjoying for 100 years and brothers fuc*ing sisters and enjoying. Great Hindu Dharma. Read Saraswati puran or ask your mother.
Besides Krishna God had 16000 plus wives & concubines (means he was a Ran*dibaaj), Shiva God also had many other wives besides Parvati, Ganga, Madhura etc. Sabarimalai Sastha or Ayyapa is the son born to Siva & Vishnu as a result of a HOMOSEXUAL act.
At the Jaya-Vijiya gate of Jagannath temple in Puri various type of Sexual orgies of the god Jagannath can be seen sculptured on granite stones. On the walls of this temple are life-size sculptures of the sexual mating of men and women. Hey Ram
Re: Sorry Hindu brothers, this is only for some dirty hindu called Manish who has diverted from the topic & is unnecessarily abusing Islam
by newnewgen on Dec 06, 2008 07:55 PM
Hi, What you practice is not important but what is the outcome of the practice is important. India the place of birth where god revealed himself thousands of years ago before islam was born, India did not enter into saudi arabia and destroy the mosques, but muslims entered into india and destroyed the temples and need i tell the atrocities committed by them? If you are praying GOD what is the output? No religion will live under your rule but parsis who came to india 1000 years before still have their religion intact in india, but iran has got coverted into ismlam, what a tragedy that ancestors of iran cannot live in iran
Re: Sorry Hindu brothers, this is only for some dirty hindu called Manish who has diverted from the topic & is unnecessarily abusing Islam
by deetee on Dec 06, 2008 07:24 PM
hindus can easily reject all these stories that you claim are part of hinduism. But can you reject even one word written in the koran???
Re: Re: Sorry Hindu brothers, this is only for some dirty hindu called Manish who has diverted from the topic & is unnecessarily abusing Islam
by newnewgen on Dec 06, 2008 07:57 PM
There is neither need to accept or deny the story, I damn bother about the stories, but HINDUS did not convert any other religion or destroy any other religion, which ever religion felt threatened comes and lives in india, israel will destroy their religion, only in india not a single jew was killed till 26/11. If the jews had gone to islamic country they would have long been prosecuted.
SPEAK ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THE PRACTICE AND NOT WHAT YOU PRACTICE
Re: Sorry Hindu brothers, this is only for some dirty hindu called Manish who has diverted from the topic & is unnecessarily abusing Islam
by christianaggression on Dec 06, 2008 06:43 PM
No difference between you idiots.
