RE:Communist Nonsense
by growup kids on Apr 09, 2008 10:43 PM
what hardship? heheha. Dont tibet ppl want lhasa to be like shanghai. Thats what china is trying to do. And tibetans are protesting because they want to be poor, and remain poor. They dont any change. They dont want KFC, burger kings in lhasa. They want to keep living in their jhopad patti and pray to budha all day.
To think that indians talk about hard life in tibet is a big joke. Most indians lives are way worse than current tibetans. :D
RE:Communist Nonsense
by sanjay on Apr 09, 2008 10:52 PM
you life like a typical chinese! heheha?? also speak like chinese. Tibet was never part of china, whether u like it or not. Tibetan want Tibet to be like Tibet not like Shanghai or Bejing. u understand that ?
RE:Communist Nonsense
by growup kids on Apr 09, 2008 10:58 PM
You think tamilnadu was part of mughal rule? Was it part of ashoka's rule? Was it part of any rule except for last 100 or so years? Tibetans since their begiining could not choose their own Dalai Lama. They had to go before their chinese emperor with a list of names. The chinese emperor chose their dalai lama for them :D. Tibet was always a surrogate kingdom under chinese emperor's hold. Just like say a smaller kingdoms in india existed under Ashoka's rule. They accepted Ashoka as the emperor and were 'allowed' to rule by themselves. Dont talk without knowing history.
RE:RE:Communist Nonsense
by black mofo on Apr 09, 2008 11:44 PM
One big difference is that Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra are democratic as is ALL of India. People elect their leaders whether good or bad. When their time is up, even the worst leaders in India vacate their seat for the next government.
Not like Tibet where the Han Chinese tell them who the next Dalai Lama will be. In China, the government tells people where they can live and whether they can have a child. So think before making stupid comparisons.
RE:Communist Nonsense
by growup kids on Apr 10, 2008 12:46 AM
:) Chinese emperor always chose the Dalai Lama. Thats their tradition. Did you know that? Tibet was a kingdom and allowed to be one by the Chinese emperor. Just like say a big emperor like Ashoka allowed some small kingdom in deccan to be there. You are poisoned by the indian politicians, CIA rhetoric, western media and you dontknow the facts.
If you talk about lack of freedom in whole of china, thats a diffeernt valid point. Independence for tibet is not a valid point. Tamilnadu, north-east india have more credence for independence than tibet from china.
RE:RE:Communist Nonsense
by George Thomas on Apr 09, 2008 11:00 PM
first understand tibet before talking for China. Tibet is a hermit kingdom. Its people are 95% budist hermits ie they also do other trades but just to sustain their primary desire of living like hermits. They have no intention of become mordern or wnnt tobe one. Imagine a lama arriving in a Mercedes Benz :). Chinese just want to exploit their natural resources & bring in a Han identity by erasing all forms of Tibetian culture. They think all people with small eyes are chinese:).
RE:Communist Nonsense
by growup kids on Apr 09, 2008 11:24 PM
So you mean if tamilnadu says only tamils can live in talimnadu. And maharashtra says only marathis can live there. Is that fine for you? What will happen to bombay then? Tamils have a different culture than north indians. Different language different food, dont look the same. Hate each other too. Try talking hindi on the streets of madras and see what happens. :D You are iving in your dreams George
RE:Communist Nonsense
by black mofo on Apr 09, 2008 11:43 PM
One big difference is that Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra are democratic as is ALL of India. People elect their leaders whether good or bad. When their time is up, even the worst leaders in India vacate their seat for the next government.
Not like Tibet where the Han Chinese tell them who the next Dalai Lama will be. In China, the government tells people where they can live and whether they can have a child. So think before making stupid comparisons.
Would the poor farmers who do suicide choose freedom as opposed to being rich? You think they would think ability to choose a govt is a better choice than being rich but no ability to choose govt. Ofcourse everybody wants to be rich and be able to choose their govt.
My point is India should get its priorities right. Its ok for USA to talk about freedom of choice etc because they are rich. But for india, is better to under control of a good dictator and prosper than to be poor and have the freedom to choose between laluprasad, jayalalitha, sonia, advani, dying vajpayee, dying karunanidhi. People in this forum are kids. What do indians get from their so called freedom tell me? Even if buy some land, if you are not careful anybody can take it away. Even govt can take it away. India's freedom is a psuedo freedom, psuedo democracy. Indians think just because they are with USA, they are already a rich progressing nation. heheha what a joke.
Tibetans are protesting the modernity in their land. They want to remain poor, no restaurants, no hotels. What a joke !!
RE:RE:70% of india is pooor
by abdulla on Apr 09, 2008 11:04 PM
8o% of your brain has been eaten by moths. thats why you shouldnt eat so many cockroaches
RE:70% of india is pooor
by abdulla on Apr 09, 2008 11:07 PM
wtf? do you want cockroach fried rice now? if so ask grown up physically but midget mentally kid now. Pig intestinal remainants curry will be ready later
How can you educated ppl be soo foolish? China is a capitalist country with a dictatorial government. India by theory is more communist than china. The policies of Congress/BJP are all half communist/half capitalist. Whereas china has totally abandoned its old economic policy loong back. Thats why china is prospering. Any 2nd tier or even 3rd tier cities are better than Delhi, Madras. Shanghai, Shenzen are better than most top tier US cities.
So you guys start talkign about chinese people's lack of freedom, rather than they being communist. Because on paper even though their govt is called Communist, they dont follow a single communist principle
RE:China is Comminist??? hehehha
by Raymond Lee on Apr 09, 2008 10:18 PM
Actually China avoids the saying of CAPITALIST but replace it with 'Socialism with Chinese Characteristics'.
And I think India is a free country, more free than China now, but I cannot say it is good or not for India now. But i totally respect India's choice.
RE:China is Comminist??? hehehha
by growup kids on Apr 09, 2008 10:39 PM
thats true. They mask it. But foolish indians keep talking about "we are against communists" without actually thinking about what they are actualy saying. The same ppl will protest if wal-mart comes to india or if they want to make airports private, banks private, auto industry private. What can I say? No wonder, there was a survey done and india had among the lowest IQ. The cream of india is in US and do some IT job and think indians are all bright. :D But if you take all the 1 billion indians one by one and compare, they will miserably fail comparisons with china.
China learnt shaolin kungfu from india and look where they have taken it. I am sure there are more chinese who know yoga than indians who do. China is developing nation and look at the medals they win in olympics. India cannot win a single medal even bronze.
Bottomline, Indians are stupid. First make your own country good. Care about your own people first. Dont be easily influenced by USA, China and forget about your own country. People are dying on streets in india, but people's minds are on some far away tibet, the land most have just heard about.
RE:China is Comminist??? hehehha
by abc on Apr 09, 2008 11:09 PM
I agree about the medals and China connection. I'm impressed with what they have achieved in sports. I also agree that some Indinas are stupid and unfortunately they are all sitting in the Parliament in Delhi. But to say that Indians in general are stupid is laughable.
RE:RE:China is Comminist??? hehehha
by Vishnu Sharma on Apr 09, 2008 11:00 PM
GET IS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SPOUT OFF !
We are DEAD against HOME GROWN communists and chinese expansionism into Myanmar,Tibet and Eastern India.
We so hate the HOME GROWN communist parties who want to bring back a pol-pot kind of regime in India, that i would not be surprised if communist politicians in our country were assassinated tomorrow.
Why do you need so much land BTW ?
Look at Japan. They have a higher standard of living than you blokes yet they are a tiny nation.
If china had rotten agitating people like Bardhan, Yechury and Karat hampering economic growth the added power generation by the Nuclear Deal and always speaking on behalf of India.
I am sure you chinese would have pumped bullets into their heads.
Don't you agree ???????????
The biggest headache we have is INDIAN democracy which allows traitors and scoundrels to run loose. Indians are not stupid. Our day will come.
The day is not far off when China will disintegrate. Only countries like India or USA that recognizes and accepts diversity will florish with a diverse population. Contries that does not honor diversity like China or Paksitan will distintegrate regardless of economic or military might.
RE:China will disintegrate
by Raymond Lee on Apr 09, 2008 10:23 PM
Partly you are right. If you know China's history, you will know that China is good at making other cultures their own because Confucianism or Taoism were very powerful in Acient China. And they are also rooted in every Chinese person's heart, even in modern society. It is just like in India, young people still live with their parents after they get married. it is the same reason.
And i keep my doubt that India is good at dealing with too much diversity since there are so many terrorists and argue in India. God bless India.
RE:China will disintegrate
by growup kids on Apr 09, 2008 11:19 PM
Well said Vishnu. Thats exactly whats happening. Look at what so called chinese 'commuinists' have done to their country. And see what the stupid indian counterparts did?
RE:China will disintegrate
by growup kids on Apr 09, 2008 10:49 PM
india accepts diversity? Really? You think a dark south indian will be accepted north indians. Punjabis think so high and in singapore, malaysia they say they are punjabis not indians. 'Indians' refers to Tamil who are dark and ugly. What about all the 80% jobs for marathis crap? What nonsense are you talking?
Tamil parties get votes by talkign bad abot north indians, fair aryans, brahmins etc.
How do they get votes? Because ppl like what they hear so they vote. Dont just blame politicians. Indians are most racist, casteist of the lot. India was ruled by foreigners because we were never united :D
Indians havent yet split into several countries only because of their lackof ability to do even that. :D thats the truth. If ppl had ability, we would all be separate country by now.
RE:Copy Cats
by Debroop Sarkar on Apr 09, 2008 10:17 PM
actually they will specifically play games with their "bank" so that they can "control" it without being obvious. :D
India's support is more than enough. We have allowed the Tibetians to live in India as our euals with freedom to live as per their culture. We have provided food shelter and education to their children. What more do you want India to do? Send in the Army? Do you believe in your wildest imagination that military power will work? In that case, for India, Kashmir would have been a history, with all the militants and Paki supports. There is no obtions for Tibet but to remain part of China. At leat for the foreseeable future. And even if Tibet is worthless to China, China can not letgo. Remember, China too has multiple nations. If tibet goes, it will be the end of China as we know it. China can not allow this and will not allow this to happen. Olympics or No Olympics, Sanctions or No Sanctions. The would community can and should encourage China to reach an amicable solution with the Tibetian Nation. Allow them more freedom in their life, culture, Governence and resources. And hope that in the near future, some form of democaracy will emarge in China. Anyway,an Autocratic-Democratization, though oxymoron, is happening in China abet slow. China is well aware of the challanges it faces in it's hinterland, including Tibet. Equitable distrubution of power, resources, economy and good governence is not very far away, if China wants to remain in the present form. The challange is from within. China knows this. A democratic China is not far away. So is Tsibet's bright future.
RE:Just came
by black mofo on Apr 09, 2008 09:51 PM
democracy in china will happen only after the minorities are irrelevant. and yes, they're working on that pretty hard.
what we need is india-china alliance as that will finish of american imperialism from entire asia !!! making some compromise for making that alliance come true is perfectly ok
RE:what we need is india-china alliance as that will finish of american imperialism from entire asia !!! making some compromise for making that alliance come true is perfectly ok
by Human Value on Apr 09, 2008 10:30 PM
Sure Narayan ... this is how such an alliance will work. Chinese masters - Indian Slaves. Narayan will become the personal slave of some Ching Ming. Never trust communists!
RE:what we need is india-china alliance as that will finish of american imperialism from entire asia !!! making some compromise for making that alliance come true is perfectly ok
by black mofo on Apr 09, 2008 09:47 PM
you mean like hindi-chini bhai bhai? that worked well, right?
