Dear Sir, The Problems of DRDO are basically the problems of building a Scientific military-industrial complex. The third world countries have suffered because of the shortage of qualified scientific personnel who are able to work on projects in a sustained manner on defence projects in tandem with the University, the Industry and the Military. We have to change track and bring our strategic thinking in line with the present conditions of Globalisation and the outsourcing of development and manufacture of critical and even non critical subsystems. In our widely open society, where nothing remains a secret it is very difficult to develop to ensure secrecy and confidentiality of our plans. We need to plug these security leaks and sabotage of our information networks before we can even think of any kind of reform. The culture of corruption and surgical elimination within our own defence and R&D establishments by inimical interests ensure that our best laid plans are frustrated or put in the back burner for a long time. Will our national leadership wake up to redress this malaise.
RE:The malaise of defence development
by mao on Apr 15, 2008 02:51 AM
Do we Indians really have any leadership ? The present President, PM, Sonia Gandhi all are working for foreign agencies. The commies and foreign minister are working for the Chinese. The whole country has been sold to different foreign powers. Only god can save us.
Without going into details of who is guilty of what, we can simply ask one question: who is accountable for the success or failure of DRDO? DRDO director has protection from the government; how can you expect an accountability in such institution? If DRDO was an institute like US Army Research, the director would have been called before the house of the congress to answer the questions. In India,we put undue importance to people, we make them like god, untouchable. Speaking about DRDO, most of the common people think they something extraordinary. Only the educated and informed one knows how it works, how a bunch of people have been given power to spend taxpayers money and do whatever they want without even bothering to answer a single question.
I do not blame the DRDO people, because they were nurtured and brought up in this system. It is the system of this country, where accountability, responsibility is a foreign word.
1. If comparing drdo projects with isro's then why shdn't we compare isro's projects with Google earth...!google's satellite images can read road maps of even my Granny's village...!
2. Remember what happened to India after Pokhran...sanctions were cut..nothing cud be brought from U.S ..hand's cuffed..??
3. Like agreeing to the monopoly of these foreign vendors..just go to them and beg to give their used products, so that we cud show it out proudly..!! give it a thought guyz..??
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO AGREE ,THAT THINGS GOING ON IN DRDO IS NOT AT ITS BEST ...BUT SHLDN'T WE ENCOURAGE THINGS TO IMPROVE RATHER THAN CRITIZING..GUESS THAT'S WHAT [ MR M P Anil Kumar ] WAS TRYING TO BRING OUT..
RE:ISRO Vs DRDO Vs { Rest of World }
by HA on Jun 03, 2008 11:34 PM
Google does not own satellites.. It just owns the s/w to stitch photogrphs taken by satellite... The sat. are owned by NASA and US defeence..Similarly, the Indian Def. sources, and ISRO own the IRS satellites..Only difference is that it is not available for commercial purpose...GOOGLE is a commercial venture.. DRDO has its successes and failures ..just like any organization over 50 years would have...They need a proper check and balance mechanism, and a long term vision..thatz it.
where is the mention of AAD and PAD anti missile systems which the same DRDO developed in record time and gave india the capability only few nations can boast of.All the systems being mentioned above are first in there class like LCA,ARJUN,AGNI,ANG,AKASH etc.. why not also mention the IJT which was a record from design phase to induction,as it uses many techs developed for LCA,DRDO offerin TANK-EX having the turret of ARJUN MBT(including the famouse KANCHAN armour) n chasis of T-72.and to inform the writer ,i should mention that AKASH has been successfully completed the user trials and nw itz ready to b inducted and even ready for exports.PINAKA MBRLs is already been inducted in army.NISHANT UAV is heavly been used in COIN operations.and more mordern UAVs and UCAVs(rushtom etc) are planned in future.DRDO has also made the famous ALH DHRUV,its been used in siachen nw days other than being used by navy,coast guard n IAF. and 1 more thing,if u want world class products than pay world level pay packages and provide world class infrastrusture to work on.and if u dont knw anything than dont write half baked articles.
RE:this writer doesnt knw nything....
by Raghav Shastri on Apr 10, 2008 03:34 PM
idas dear, _you_ certainly don't know the spelling of anything and know. get educated.
RE:this writer doesnt knw nything....
by M S on Apr 10, 2008 06:36 PM
leonidas.. you mean Arjun is first in its class or it is first class? If it is first in the class, well we are decades behind other nations. if you are calling it first class, God bless you, you can be the next PM of this country, visionless and puppet.
The author has just put down the shortcommings and given his suggestions to improve the situation. Instead of supporting the failure, encourage and motivate the new suggestions.
RE:this writer doesnt knw nything....
by leonidas on Apr 10, 2008 06:52 PM
ARJUN is the first MBT developed in INDIA...thats what i mean by 'first in its class'.
RE:this writer doesnt knw nything....
by Sunny on Apr 10, 2008 09:42 PM
Your facts are somewhat skewed up. Two simple questions: a) If the Akash missiles were super duper, why did the Air Force get the Barak missiles from Israel ? b) Why did the GOI close down most missile proj- ects prematurely recently by claiming that all project objectives had been verified al- ready ?. c) Why is it that the armed forces prefer Brah- mos missiles with Russian technology rather than those from RCI, Hyderabad ? Is it because the RCI designed missiles are based on totally outdated technologies ?
RE:this writer doesnt knw nything....
by leonidas on Apr 10, 2008 10:58 PM
first of all clear your facts.... 1)BARAK is used by navy not airforce and its a short range system whereas akash is a medium range system 2)which project has been closed prematurely?? except for trishul,which was declared as tech demonstrator....prithvi is inducted,agni is inducted...akash cleared the user trials recently n IAF is going to give in the no. of akasg batteries required..nag is ready for user trials in july...
3)BRAHMOS is a joint-venture ,not totally a russian missile,engine is russian but itz electronics are indian...it can do many manuvers to evade anti-missile systems and thats because of itz electronics which are indian...
Is india gifting money to russia and US, afterall they are giving halfburnt and decommissioned ships to india for a huge sum of money. is deal worth for india?. I dont understand if India has so much talent why dont centre develop ship making industry in india, this can save time and money.
The Headless customers like armed forces,who's objective is go for maximum forgein trips to buy arms can only give this type of report about DRDO.Scientist community is the best worker in the Govt. sector compared to any other department(IAS,IPS,Defence forces).A person with B.tech,M.tech degree from IIT,NIT working for a salary of 17000/-(compared to a fresher PUC passed call center employ)needs more encouragement rather than criticism.Living DRDO and work for MNC to do their chip work like testing,code verification,selling products is the easiest solution but to work on complex problem without much infrastructure needs passion to work for contry. Think Positive DKS ,Bangalore
RE:Think judiciously about DRDO scientist.
by M S on Apr 10, 2008 06:42 PM
nameless... someone who is working for 17K after IIT could be because he was in the IIT because of his caste... if all the highly educated scientists were focused on breakthroughs, rather than a "secured govt. job", we would have an article all praise for the DRDO.
if you know India well, you will agree with the above statement. someone who has not left the country after IIT is only two reasons, he loves India or he got through because of his caste asd incompetent to perform in working world.
Someone who stays back for love of India, works to the best of ability, and not allow institutions like DRDO to fail massively.
RE:Think judiciously about DRDO scientist.
by Mayank Bhatnagar on Jun 02, 2008 07:10 PM
Guys, Dont just rush to conclusions....Its not people of a particular caste who are working for a big organisation like DRDO. We have scientists from all over the social strata working for the organisation, which has time & again delivered on newer technologies inspite of all the people engaged in blocking its road to success...You must also understand that India being the democracy it is, everyone has a right to go against Indigenous technology & go in for imported technology, making a quick buck in the process, but there are only some who give their heart & soul to Organisations like DRDO to match these technologies so that we dont have to stand in front of foreign powers with our hands folded & get blackmailed. & yes not all IITians working in India are "incompetent caste individuals"as mentioned by you.....
RE:Think judiciously about DRDO scientist.
by Sunny on Apr 10, 2008 03:36 PM
Your message "Think Positive DKS" is a pathetic plea to continue with the morass of incompet- ence, sloth,inefficiency & corruption that characterises DRDO Labs today. You talk of a gifted M.Tech Engineer working at low salaries in DRDO Labs. What about deliverables to the armed forces on time with quality, my friend ?. If our valiant jawan on the border or the ace pilot is not equipped with reasonably dependable technology, he becomes a sitting duck for the enemies. Who takes responsibility for his life ? Except for the brief period of US embargo, you have had access to high value imports, whether required or not, over the last 3/4 decades. Then, where are the deliverables and the quality from the armed forces perspective, my friend ? Show me one project where DRDO has shown true accountability by delivering project on time, within budget and of acceptable quality. In this respect, ISRO has plenty to show for its positive deliverables and accountability, despite being another Government organization. Then what about the DRDO Labs which are nothing but the cesspools of endless corruption, making the so called Vigilance Officers in these Labs look like village sarpanchs. How many serious cases have these officers really booked in these labs while corruption has a free day right under their noses ? Should we all forget about accountability just because the scientist has agreed to work for a salary of Rs. 17,000 in a DRDO Lab. Without showing accountability, will this scientist
RE:tt
by Raghav Shastri on Apr 10, 2008 03:26 PM
Sorry buddy. I was working for DRDO. The pay is far more than the worth of some of the monkeys. Govts pays very well. Their is so much of politics, regionalism and (as a result) lack of talent that has proved to be the nemesis of the institution.
