RE:Musilm Majority
by swamy on Oct 11, 2007 10:25 AM
turkey seems to be the only exception, modtly due to western influence, btw turkish babes r the hottest
RE:haahhahaaa
by karunesh misra on Oct 11, 2007 10:04 AM
Oooh! What a peaceful Islam. Puting Paki soldiers in peace by slitting their throats. Allah save Islam & Islam save their followers.I think they will kill humanity till there is really full peace & no body survives on earth.May be because of this it is known as peaceful religion.
RE:RE:haahhahaaa
by Vijay urf Teesmar Khan on Oct 11, 2007 11:13 AM
But they think that they will go to heaven, where each will get unlimited wine and 64 (or it is 786 ?) hoors to enjoy.
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 09:42 AM
now that u have shown u r an RSS bhakta id like to remind u that it was ur govt at the centre which sent that terrorist maulana masood azhar by first class to kandahar so that he can kill more of our soldiers. our soldiers risked their lives and got killed so that they could capture him and these guys let him walk free. why not kill such people instead of capturing them? whats human in them to give them human rights?
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Piyush Bhargava on Oct 11, 2007 10:15 AM
I am not an RSS bhakt.But I am no fan of the congress either.What if all the passengers from Kandhar had come back to India with their throats slit or beheaded. You would have still blamed the Government.What if your mother was there and she came back with her throat slit open.How would you have felt.Even Isrealis have negotiated with the terrorists on the sly.South Koreans have done it recently after 3 of the hostages were killed. A clear Anti terrorism policy is still not in place in India.Now that Kandhar has happened why does not the Congress Government form a zero tolerance policy like the Americans.Instead they are dismantling the already existing anti terorrism laws to appease the muslims.If you think the already existing laws are enough to contain terrorism in India like the Congress says so then you must be out of your mind.India has always been considered to be a soft state by the terrorists. And Congress has ruled India for 60 years.What have they done during this period.
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 10:50 AM
i have in no way supported the congress for their minority appeasement and pampering of muslims. my point was that the BJP govt had their chance to put a mark on history by showing a strong stance against terrorism but sadly they too succumbed to US pressure and had cold feet. even during the Kargil war they preferred losing our soldiers' lives rather than put the airforce in action just so that we can claim to the world that we did not do anything 'aggressive'. whats the point in sacrificing precious lives of soldiers when we could have wiped off the scum from kargil by a few well placed bombing campaigns? of course i agree congress hasnt done anything worthwhile against terrorism but bjp wasnt any good either. as for the blame for the kandahar fiasco, well cant blame the bjp govt much. they cudnt have known in advance of the hijacking. my point was that they did succumb to pressure like the congress( which is no saint itself... remember 1984)
RE:RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 11:06 AM
one more point. therez is talk of an eid cease fire with the millitants. i wud ask all indians to protest against such ridiculous decisions by the congress govt. these millitants are not human beings. i wud suggest that the army go after them at all times. so what if its eid? all the more better chance of killing them while they are praying.
RE:RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by juan on Oct 11, 2007 09:48 AM
rss did not kill any one in million numbers like Islamists jihadis do all over the world. so shut up .
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by TS Prasad on Oct 11, 2007 10:41 AM
Dear 'Seeker', Sometime back I saw your post "Islam is a religion of peace...". Yes people don't have control over the past. But they can mend ways wherever required. But quite a few Muslim people want to torture us, kill us, loot us... just because we (genuinely) differ from you and we no longer tolerate this atrocity. If this is a religion of peace I say "we don't require 'peace'".
RE:RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 11:01 AM
ok Mr Prasad. u dont want this 'peace' what do u want a peace loving simple muslim residing in india, who is currently very disheartened that his team is not faring well against australia, to do? u want me to leave this country? u want me to leave the field open to the terrorist's among my community who have been misguided to think that its their duty to kill every1 who is not like them? if educated people like u dont support us there will be ghettisation and more osamas will be born among the community and by then it will be too late for us to control them and we will be no different from pakistan. how am i to mend my ways? i try to put a stop to extremism whenever i get the chance. but u people always try to instigate the weak among us and then point out 'hey look u people are violent'. why cant u promote peace. help those who want peace and both communities can survive. instigate the insecure and u will have riots which will snowball into much worse things. the choice is urs. im doing my duty to bring saner minds among both communities together and i think its ur duty to support. promote sectarianism and then the future generations will have to bear the consequences.
RE:RE:RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by sanjiv on Oct 11, 2007 11:22 AM
We are a secular country. We don't believe in relegion. If among misguded youths, we have people like Seeker among us then why don't we support him and stop bringing religion for every crime mistake happens in the world.Remeber bad and good people are very where . We need to encourage good people and their idea. Staying along side other relegion in India has not come by choice but by reality.
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Karthik Raju on Oct 11, 2007 11:14 AM
Good. I am happy that you didn't get angry by unworthy comments and you are still talking sense. Be proud to be an Indian.
RE:RE:RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Mahendra Patel on Oct 13, 2007 08:55 AM
Well said brother,SEEKER, LOVE your Sane thinking, YOU are true INDIAN, Mother INDIA is PROUD OF YOU and ALL WHO ARE IN SAME WAVELENGTH KEEP UP, I AM HINDU, IAM WITH YOU.
To Other Commenter who is preaching Hate, here is what I have to say-,That will make you ZOMBIE,not LIVING entity, GOOD LUCK TO YOU, Don't enter in that zone.Religion if it is TRUE, TEACH WISDOM ,SANE MIND RIGHTEOUS LIVING.
What you are entering into is TOTALLY REVERSE of what religion stand for regardles of label we use SUCH as hindu,Muslim,Christian, Jain etc.
BUT if you practice RELIGION of HATE than , 15% of MUSLIM in INDIA will get fedup with it and go back to their forefathers religion. LOOK Last several BOMBINGS were on MULSLIM RELIGIOUS WORSHIP PLACES-BY MUSLIM of AGENT of ISI supported extremist through Bangladesh, that's shame on them,they thought this will creat disharmoney between Hindus and Muslim, Reverse is happening, I will Stand by my MUSLIM brother in time of need. One day these extremist will say INDIAN MUSLIM are not Real Muslim?
How would INDIAN MUslim Respond to that? by the way all INDIAN POLITICAL PARTIES are equally bad, they are doing what Terrorist are doing for Votes, TStay away from their enticement, or better tell them on their face, Don't INVOKE religion in POLITICS.
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by suresh poduval on Oct 11, 2007 11:28 AM
well said friend......you are the real INDIAN
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Iftikar on Oct 11, 2007 10:50 AM
Stop bringing Islam in every crime that happens around. You must know (Pakistan, Terrorism) and Islam both are independent of each other. Its all about "reap what you sow". Pakistan is reaping what it sowed in the last few decades. Lets not sow anything bad i mean hatred among Indians that our future generations will repent. India stands strong and let it stay strong.
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Manas sahoo on Oct 11, 2007 11:25 AM
Absolutely right Iftkar.Mr. Bharghab is a seek mind Guy who doesn't know the Humour of the Indian society.Simply ignore him friends.
RE:RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Mahendra Patel on Oct 13, 2007 08:58 AM
yes, we are with any sane, Peace loving,hard working, honest INDIAN , regardless of their choice of religion. In INDIA though we are born into religion we don't choose, regardless ,MOTHER INDIA IS PROUD OF YOU.
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Neeraj on Oct 11, 2007 09:37 AM
Rediff is a forum for mentally sick and sadists like this Piyush Bhargava
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by karunesh misra on Oct 11, 2007 09:49 AM
Dear Neeraj, U are also on Rediff forum.R U also sadist & sick.
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by swamy on Oct 11, 2007 10:27 AM
Neeraj : goto dictionary dot com and search for the word sarcasm
RE:Reservations for the kith and kin for those killed in Pakistan
by Piyush Bhargava on Oct 11, 2007 10:25 AM
Neeraj, look around you.You are in a minority on this forum.You seem to be the only sane person here.As sane as the terrorists and the Paki Government.
RE:RE:Its Jihad
by Vijay urf Teesmar Khan on Oct 11, 2007 11:15 AM
If this is Jihad, let them continue this for a long time. Let them kill each others, so that all muslims are dead. Then there will definitely be peace on the earth and we will say that Islam has created PEACE.
Tribals in Pakistan had waged war with anyone who opposed them. Some tribals feel, loot is an occupation of their tribe. Earlier when they were fighting in Kashmir ,they received moral,material and military support and were praised as "freedom fighters " When Pakistan obediently wants to " fight terrorism" to please the US boss ,terrorists feel BETRAYED. And the fight goes on. Let us pray for peace.
RE:TERRORISTS IN PAKISTAN FEEL BETRAYED.
by sunder on Oct 11, 2007 09:44 AM
Now the terrorists have got what they deserved from Pakistan for fighting against India .We wanted to just protect our Motherland .YOu people tried to impose all sorts of problems in Kashmir.NOw your own tail is under fire.Lets watch the movie.
Obviously the reason behind all this mass murder is nothing but unwavering faith. Whoever not practicing the faith in its true form is a kafir and each group believes they are right and others are kafirs. Be the the next person is from other religion or from the same but with different interpretation. After committing all these they will claim this is the faith of peace.
RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 09:35 AM
Islam is a religion of peace. just becoz some fanatics want to kill innocents all others are being branded as troublemakers. Hindus dont have any lack of fanatics either. does that mean all hindus are troublemakers? a few of the idiots on both sides dont want peace to prevail and this includes some of the so-called 'educated' people who have access to the net and put up their comments here to show how idiotic they are. they dig up something from the past so that the present can be looked throught the coloured glass and shown distorted. they bring up stories of atrocities committed by both communities in the past. how is the present generation to blame for something which they had no control over and which happened far in the past? of course there are fanatics now too and here in india among us. theres no denying that fact. but there are good guys too! even hindus who want peace are branded as jehadis as seen by the stupid comments above. pity on such 'educated' people and their 'education'. Pakistan is facing the consequences of what it has sown. Hope these troublemakers keep them busy among themselves so that we can get on with our lives. moreover we must hope that our buffoons at the centre dont get the idea in their head that we must help our neighbour in their time of need in tackling terrorism(which is of their own creation). Pakistan deserves the treatment it is getting. as aptly said in some comment below..'get some popcorn' and watch.
RE:RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by tunak on Oct 11, 2007 10:28 AM
>>>>>Islam is a religion of peace Can u Give us example of a single Islamic country with arabic hegemony(Indonesia,thailand has thwarted arabic hegemony) and coherent with other religious people.
RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 11:11 AM
u ppl r cofusing ISLAMIC rule with MUSLIM rule. what u r seeing is muslims ruling at their whim and fancy. the points u have listed are valid. however these muslim states do not follow pure islam where it is a crime to prevent people from other religions to follow their faith. the mideast and indonesia are poor examples. they are either feudalistic ruled countries(mideast) or a corrupted ,read politicised(indonesia) muslim rules and do not stand for islamic rule.
RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Vijay urf Teesmar Khan on Oct 11, 2007 11:25 AM
Then please give us an example of true Islamic Rule.
RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Atul Narayan on Oct 11, 2007 11:32 AM
Seeker...I agree with you, but there is one amendment in your lines...."just becoz some fanatics want to kill innocents all others are branded as troublemakers" should read as "just becoz most of us want to or plan to or help to kill the non-muslims......."
RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Mahendra Patel on Oct 13, 2007 09:13 AM
we need proactive group of like minded INDIANS. Who are also Relegious in True sense, regardless of religious label.
In INDIA we have to Tackle, Political Parties, to make AMENDMENT ON BALLOT-TO BAN-ALL POLITICAL PARTIES TO UTTER A SINGLE WORD ON ANY RELIGION> KEEP RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS, THEY ARE TO ONE CREATING TROUBLE AND SUSTAINNING HATRED BETWEEN RELIGION, FOR WHAT?, FOR VOTE-SHAME ON THEM AND US BECAUSE WE ALLOWED THEM TO EXPLOIT OUR DIFFERENCE AND OUR FEAR(HOPE WE DON'T HAVE IT). BUT POLITIAL TRY THAT. HOW DO WE STOP THAT? ANY THOUGHT
RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by amit shah on Oct 11, 2007 10:48 AM
Dear Seeker, Agreed there are a few lunatic fanatics in Hindus. However, fanaticism in Hindus is an exception, whereas in Islam it seems to be the rule. Moreover, fanaticism in Hindus is comparatively new and is of a reactive nature, not like the pro-active Islamist jihad. Also whenever a Hindu commits an act of fanaticism there are 'n' numbers of Hindus who speak out and act against them. The same does not hold true for Muslims. Agreed that all Muslims are not fanatics but why don't they voice their concern and opposition to the fanatics. By remaining mute spectators they are in a way supporting the cause of the fanatics. So no cause to complain that Islam is being branded in general as anti-peace. History shows that Islam and its followers have always resorted to violent means for enforcing their thoughts and ideas. Of course, as I said earlier sane and peace-loving followers of Islam have been rare and continue to be an endangered species if not extinct.
RE:RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 11:17 AM
thats what i mean to say Mr Shah. we peace loving ones want to prevail on both side. we need support. we are not MUTE SPECTATORS. what do u want me to do? go to Kashmir and shout that i want this madness stopped? i'll get a bullet in my head for all my troubles and ur troubles wont decrease by my foolishness. i just want saner minds on both sides to support each other and find ways to stop this madness.
RE:RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Karthik Raju on Oct 11, 2007 11:16 AM
Well said. But don't we all have a duty to ensure those who are for peace are also left in peace? Or do we want to just brand everyone a terrorist and never give the good ones a chance and just anihilate them?
RE:RE:RE:What they are doing is what they are preaching
by Seeker on Oct 11, 2007 11:18 AM
Mr. Karthik Thanks for ur support. its people like u who inspire me and fuel my campaign for peace.
There is army in pakistan, and there are terrorists, there is govt. in Pakistan and there is US .... Terrorists accuse Pakistani administration to be in a proxy war with them for the US ... Musharraf is trying to tell people that it is not for US, for their own, that Pakistan must defeat terrorism.
The army is confused. Till yesterday, Musharaff was on they were aiding and abetting terrorism as if they are one the same ... today under US pressure, Musharaff wants army to shoot at the terrrorists ... terrorists who may be related to army personnel ... men from same village, men they have married their sister or daughter too .... Now, they have to shoot them ... so, they are more confused.
There is growing dissent within Paki army between terrorist sympathisers and moderates and the rift between them makes army unsure who is right and who is wrong.
Screw pakistan ... these things are commonplace there.
RE:Violence in Pakistan
by sunder on Oct 11, 2007 09:40 AM
Those sow the seed of horror ,will have to cut the tree of horror.Thsi is what is happening .We Indians come what may have opposed terrorism and communalism and we are trying to be straightforward.This is what will help us in the long run
RE:Violence in Pakistan
by hanek singh on Oct 11, 2007 05:15 AM
simple enough. the chickens are coming home to roost. pakis all along wanted indian army to slowly bleed. now they are at the receiving end this is but natural justice.
RE:Violence in Pakistan
by Rahul Rao on Oct 11, 2007 09:22 AM
True, as they say, those whi live by the sword die by the sword. & what goes around comes around. Pak is paying a heavy price for nurturing terrorists & now thye have turned on their hosts. Pak is caught between the US & terrorists.. servs them right!!!
RE:Violence in Pakistan
by TS Prasad on Oct 11, 2007 10:46 AM
Well said. But the difference between Muslim Terrorists, Pakistan's army and their government is very thin. This adds to further confusion.
