Icons of worship cannot be denigraded by anyone including artists. The artists and other together form a society. The self of the society has some kind of acceptable / not acceptable code that has to be maintained, if unrest is not to be invited.
If public feeling are hurt, then public unrest is evitable.
Hey, hey, spoilsports, Do not meddle with arts, fine arts, music and creativity. We are already stunted in our growth and obstructed our civilization to change culturally (Cultural pigmies. Confused to the core). Please do not enter into creative brains and muck up the progressive primitive man. He has come unto this stage with great struggle and effort. Don't finger this human faculty otherwise people will enact primitive war scenes with clubs, bows and arrows, spears and dance mumbo- jumbo....the primitive style....keep your hands off and let creative man create what you can not. Otherwise, there will be no one to even recreate what you muck up. Hands off..., eyes shut...If you cannot' keep eyes open!
Don't meddle with culture and religion. Sexual artists should be told in strong terms. when meddling with some one else's feelings , honour and sentiment , the meddler cannot expect the other party to be insensitivley ting himself / herself to themeddler, even if the meddler is a god . Atists , have your sexual taunts within your bedroom . If art is in sexual organs and nudity, cover it up with clothes when you come out in the open. Ar tis not meant to hurt people and denigrate the cultue and sentiments and Gods of he people in the society.
Did any of you see what chandra mohan had painted to go against him. All you heard is some leader said he is wrong and everyone goes and bashed him.
Good people will soon learn the mistake of growing backyard goons for their own purpose.
If i'm right none protested for the sculptres of shiva copulating in kamasutra. There wa a depiction of god.
when was the last time you had even see the the book of kamasutra to understand it.
If give the book of kamasutra would have been a artistic book in the hands of chandra mohan.
But in the moral policing brigades hands that would have been a perverted object. why dont you protest with vatsayana. why dont you destroy the carvings in the temples which show copulation.
Becouse it is as sacred. It is the power of creation itself.
The people having perverted minds are the ones who are protesting against the painting.
If the moral policing guys were so clean that they never utter a wrong word in thier sentences then you can talk with them. They themselves are filth mouth people. Fighting for a coz that the people dont want.
RE:How many of the commentors below know what he had drawn
by Raghavan Kesavan on May 18, 2007 07:13 AM
Then do not hide the creative organs of yourself and your mother , sibilings , wife and daughters . A law should be made to punish the pervert creatiures who draw and expose the organs that people do not show up in public , by parading the offrenders naked in the strrets . Society is more important than the individual , even he is God . no one has the right ot offend the society and its sentiments in th ename of anythig however great it might be .When in rome , do as the romans do. No one can claim a tright ot walk on the street naked .if any one does in thename of god or art or kamashudra etc , hey chall be awarded the harshest punishement that shopuld b exemplary. People who are afraid of drwinthe pictures of religious figures of other religions , take the Hindu society alone for granted and claim a right to offend the society.Pervert fellows should be put in mental asylum . lest they become sexual ofenders since they are always immersed in it .
RE:WHAT ABOUT DRAWING MARX/LENIN/STALIN SHOWN WITH A BIG PEN*IS AND SCREW*ING WOMEN OF NANDIGRAM!
by eagle on May 18, 2007 02:32 AM
What do you know about painting. or art. or anything about art.
You are nothing close to being a human being if you cannot see nature as it is.
You are nothing but a cheap guy who writes comments on rediff for the perverted satifaction of your thoughtless mind.
Ganesh Pyne, Ganesh Hore are two of the prominent Indian artists. They are NOT supporting Artists in this issue.
What is needed from artists is respect for SACREDNESS.
In the name of art, crotroversies are created to milk money, fame.
There were/are 100s of artists in modern times starting from Abanindranath to Raja Ravi Verma to Nandala Bose..............None of them had to cross the limit to become 'famous'.
RE:Not all artists are supporting Nude Goddess/Jesus
by eagle on May 18, 2007 02:30 AM
That is the truth. The shiv linga represents the power of creation.
When you say penis and vagina it sounds ugly huh? but that is what you have and no one is ashamed to have it. That is how your mother gave birth to you.
with out that you will not be able to procreate. That is why the symbol of linga is so powerful. It is a representation of creation.
You go and do the studying. Sitting in high school bench and writing on rediff are two different thing. grow up.
RE:Not all artists are supporting Nude Goddess/Jesus
by Raghavan Kesavan on May 18, 2007 07:21 AM
Art is not meant to make people happy and not to hurt people and claim a right ot hurt especially the poeple show their resentment .are the artist insensible and crude barbaiamns with a sexually pervert mind to insiston having amind to hurt the feelings o others .is it the right of expression? do not those sexually pervert artists undesrtand that if the others also claim a right to give expression to thier thoughts in th emanner they think right wiothout and restriction , what willhappen to them? is it not the same freedom of expression of others withut restrictions that the artists now suiffer ?do not the artists and thier idiotic supporters have no brains to understnd that no right can be exercised without restriction and to hurt others ?
I have several nudes of European masters wherein the models have been persons known to them closely. I am sure these persons had their own kids. I have seen, again in Europe, where whole closed communities go nude, not only on beaches, but also in restaurants, etc. These people believe there is nothing wrong or ugly or inappropriate in nudity. While I do not personally intend to follow their example, I do feel that their preferences must be respected and they be allowed to lead lives the way they feel is best, as long as they do not harm others. The richness in life is really to appreciate diversity within the humankind. So, why should we be unduly worked up over artists expressing their selves within closed communities? The whole beauty of Hinduism is its liberal mindset, accepting different faiths, allowing freedom of expression and wishing for the well being of everyone. I think that is not a weakness, but a strength. I also feel that by trying to imitate the rather restricted viewpoints and violent protesting habits of certain other communities, some people are allowing themselves to be reduced to a lower level, negating their own liberal background. The vote gatherers are as usual desperate to polarise people, so that they can have captive cadres who will dance to their tune.
RE:Immaturity of Mind
by Prakash Negi on May 17, 2007 10:37 PM
"As long as they do not harm others" this is the crux of the whole debate. An artist can enjoy all freedom so long as he is not interfering with faiths and beliefs of others. For example a good artist can start by painting a nude picture of his mother or sister and caption it as "My Mother" and exhibit it in a gallery. Such a painting would be a real piece of art which shall have motherhood, emotions and artistic originality all clubbed together. And above all there will be no agitations or moral policing on this real art.
RE:Immaturity of Mind
by guruDev on May 17, 2007 05:48 PM
Friend you mentioned "While I do not personally intend to follow their example" and you also state "....as long as they do not harm others"
The issue at hand is not nude painting which is done in every Art College-including famous J.J School of Arts & they are exhibited publicly at famous Art Galleries no body has stopping them not even ultra-Shiv Sainiks or BJP. So all your outburst is meaningless.
The issue is about tampering with religious which does contradicts even your own statement "....as long as they do not harm others", because religious figures are not slabs of marble that can be reshaped any.... The issue is why insist on insulting mother-figure of people when there are so many others models available.......
RE:Immaturity of Mind
by prashant chakravarty on May 17, 2007 06:05 PM
Precisely Gurudev your shart eyes picked up the core issue, people give all kinds of example but even legendary Artists like Picasso, Cezzane, Goya,Van Gogh.....all did nudes but did they ever defile Mother Mary? Never
Even in western society which some of our learned colleagues are fond of quoting streaking in public is legally banned.
It is crystal clear that the student paintings are on public display at MS Univ's behest. It is not a matter of Artistic interference it about a criminal who also happens to be an artist- does that make him a holy cow?
People challenging about painting one's mother nude.... Have you seen the sculpture of a mother feeding her infant??? Do you people go horny seeing that???
People challenging about painting one's mother nude.... Have you seen the sculpture of a mother feeding her infant??? Do you people go crazy seeing that???
