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Shivkumar Singh
SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by Shivkumar Singh on Apr 06, 2007 09:18 PM  | Hide replies

Despite civilisationa links as long as Islam exerts a force on the nations of South Asia, SAARC is unlikely to succeed.

Once it is acknowledged that Islamism is evil, SAARC will materialize as a corollary



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Ibrahim Sheik
RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 08, 2007 06:14 PM
DEAR PRADIP
Are you going to Package Islam from South Asia to Saudi using DHL or Fed-Ex or Our Indian Postal Service. HA....HA...HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA....
If you have any shortage of Money I will donate you Rs.20..

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Ibrahim Sheik
RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 08, 2007 05:45 PM
SHIV KUMAR & PRADIP SEEING DAY DREAMS,
WAKE UP GUYS, DON'T SLEEP IN THE OFFICE. IT SEEMS YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A DREAM ON PACKING ISLAM BACK TO SAUDI ?? GOOD FANTASY ?? HOW OLD ARE YOU GUYS, IF YOU ARE IN MID 30s KEEP WATCHING FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS, THERE WILL BE A PARADIGM SHIFT...

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hello
RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by hello on Apr 09, 2007 03:43 AM
Will they started to wear TWO PIECE!!!
I am replying to Ibrahim Sheik only not for Islam, for his postings in other forums!!!

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Ibrahim Sheik
RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 09, 2007 01:23 PM
I think you will be in One Piece at that Point of time my dear Hello. Keep watching >>>>

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hello
RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by hello on Apr 09, 2007 06:47 PM
What non-sense are you talking?
I am asking to you any cultural revolution
happen? or any way you telling?
After seeing Taliban etc. they didn't seem to be
like going back to 8th century?
You clear my doubt instead of talking
non-sense!!!
I am asking what way it will go in 30 years???

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hello
RE:RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by hello on Apr 09, 2007 06:53 PM
@Ibrahim Sheik,
Why are you angry this much for just talking
about a thing normally happen in other side of
the world!!!
When you guys come to the real world & see
things like a normal person in 21st century!!!


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Ibrahim Sheik
RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 09, 2007 07:29 PM
Dear Hello,
Sorry for Replying late, in 30 years these following things will happen in Islamic World
1) Oil Money will go away and all these Filty Arabs will give up their Ego of Money and start understanding the reality of Islam

2)The whole world is against Terrorism, so Young Muslims will think about what really Islam is all about ?? and there will be a revolution where the Hatred preaching Maulvis will be thrown out
3) All the enemies of Islam will do attrocities to the common muslims, as a result of that the unity among Muslims will develop, which will help in Practising Islam in the right sense. All the Indians united bcos of the attrocities of the British, similarly all the Muslims will unite against the enemies of Islam, this is going to happen very soon.
4) As a result of that there will be Peace and Prosperity in the whole world...
This is the revolution that will happen very soon. This is the secret of the growth of Islam, more you bash more vigourously it grows. Bcos it is the Religion of Truth, Truth is bound to sustain and grow dynamically

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hello
RE:SAARC will not Succeed as long as Islamism is Active
by hello on Apr 09, 2007 08:11 PM
As you are telling peace, prosperity to the
world, that is coincide w/ my thoughts!!!

You are painting different picture about
attrocities & changing definition about
attrocities!!!

Any way, I am not going to discuss about that
let us hope for the best for the world through
what ever preaching or what ever actions!!!

Let every religion serve their sole purpose of
bringing humanity, kind & betterment to the
people on how to lead a better path & example
for others!!!
God bless all religions!!!


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Saarc
by on Apr 06, 2007 02:58 PM  | Hide replies

wouldnt u say that 50 year a country like ours ie India signifies the same thing as the EU, after all arent we a group of nation clubbed together, so India is like the E.U maybe even a step higher.

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hello
RE:Saarc
by hello on Apr 06, 2007 07:25 PM
Billions of differences, billions of ideas,
lot of religions, lot of regions, lot of
seasons, lot of languages,
we are one, i.e. Indian!!!


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Akash mrr
SAARCC
by Akash mrr on Apr 06, 2007 03:30 AM

I think india has to be careful when allowing other country's products without Import taxes Indian farmers going to suufer .in one way because of this stuppid idea when india allowed Srilanka, Nephal etc (at the moment Other outside country's selling Like china Guatimala, Indonesia etc.. their products through this country ) Indian farmers suffered Lot We Have lotmany people suicided in many states. Hence I am Requesting GOVT.to pull back from this Bloody IDEA!!What is your Opinion??

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nikhil pratap
uncomparable SAARC and EU
by nikhil pratap on Apr 05, 2007 02:31 PM  | Hide replies

EU and SAARC are uncomparable. THey both have different history and different ideologies. Since, the history of SAARC nations is different from the rest, its present is also different, and so would be the future. We should not try to make whole world as EU. Better try to find those solutions which are specific to SAARC region and relate to our philosophy and ideologies. The whole world would be a boring place, if its replica of EU everywhere.

I guess the writer hasn't seen the world yet, and atleast not understood the mindset of subcontinent people. Subcontinent people may fight or hate or whatever, they are more spiritual and philosophical than anyone else in the world. here people believe more in spirituality, whereas west believes more in materialistic pleasures. This has been already mentioned by the writer, that EU spoke about coal and steel, whereas Gandhi talked about love and truth.

EU is good at having good quality of living, but when it comes to the true meaning of life, they are stormed.

SAARC has more diversity, and hence its not easy to combine at one go. The process is on, and with globalisation that diversity is tend to decrease. Whereas, EU from beginning was always monotonous, with not so much diversity. Hence they were able to combine forces, without having globalization.

I would request the writer and editor of Rediff to do their homework well, before trying to even compare EU and SAARC.


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Shivkumar Singh
RE:
by Shivkumar Singh on Apr 06, 2007 09:34 PM
Hinduism and Buddhism tend to be spiritualistic religions.

Islam is not. It is incorrect to say that everyone at SAARC follows spirituality

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Ibrahim Sheik
RE:uncomparable SAARC and EU
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 08, 2007 06:07 PM
DEAR SHIVKUMARJI,
SPIRITUALITY IS IN THE PEAK IN ISLAM. KNOW ABOUT THE SUFIS WHO ARE DEAD PHYSICALLY AND LIVING NOW ALSO. IF YOU HAVE REAL GUTS, JUST GO AND DEMOLISH ANY DARGAH, YOU CAN SEE THE LEGEND STILL ALIVE...


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Shahryar Pax
RE:uncomparable SAARC and EU
by Shahryar Pax on Apr 08, 2007 07:00 PM
Sufiism is merely Vedanta disguised using Islamic symbols!

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Ibrahim Sheik
RE:uncomparable SAARC and EU
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 09, 2007 01:26 PM
The roots of Sufism are in everry Part of the World, Just one root of CHISTI & KHADARIA are in India. Learn more about Sufism, the first converts to Islam in India are the Great Hindu Sages and Buddhist Monks, they accepted Islam from Khwaja Moinudeen Chisti, the king of Sufis still living in Ajmer..

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Manosij Majumdar
RE:uncomparable SAARC and EU
by Manosij Majumdar on Apr 06, 2007 10:10 PM
Your definition of spirituality is appallingly narrow.

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Neeraj Kumar
SAARC
by Neeraj Kumar on Apr 05, 2007 10:29 AM  | Hide replies

We can make SAARC like EU if we can avoid PAKISTAN. Why don't we make EU with other south asian countires exluding pakistan..??? As Pakistan is the India Hater.and It will never stop hating India.

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hello
RE:SAARC
by hello on Apr 05, 2007 07:35 PM
Curious to know about the Rest of Asia!!!
In What age they are now revolving???

Mr. Tan Chin Hui,
These posts were occupied by some un-wanted
people, who first post w/ negative comments,
when given replies, it might have a chance to
get like that!!!
You have to scold the people who first try to
tilt the message rather than blaming democracy &
freedom!!!

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Tan Chin Hui
Disgusting Region of the World!
by Tan Chin Hui on Apr 05, 2007 10:04 AM  | Hide replies

The whole of South Asian region is disgusting with filthy, impoverished and uncivilized people. Only achievement in the world stage is exporting these uncouth elements to migrate to other parts. All these people are generally referred to as 'Indians' irrespective of their nationality based on their filthy habits and ethnic nature.
No wonder East Asians hate these people as they are giving a bad name to other Asians.


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kishore
RE:Disgusting Region of the World!
by kishore on Apr 05, 2007 10:10 AM
Oh yeah , And East Asia is filled with bunch of whores for the sex starved westerners and koreans .
Think before you talk you dimwitted moron

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Vasant Kulkarni
RE:Disgusting Region of the World!
by Vasant Kulkarni on Apr 05, 2007 10:39 AM
Dear Tan,

I do not know why we asians can not see best and better in each other and try to work towards betterment of each other. We have think we only are great and rest all or filthy and disgusting! I am not surprised at your comment. But, remember, there are many well educated people in South Asia, who think exactly the same way about East Asians, as you are thinking about the south asians. I know people like you form a significant percentage in Asia and that is why we are one of the most disunited region! And alas! we will continue to be that, as long as people like you think the way are you are thinking.

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Shahryar Pax
RE:Disgusting Region of the World!
by Shahryar Pax on Apr 08, 2007 07:11 PM
Mr Hui - you are mistaken.

In fact most of the world welcomes hard-working intelligent Indians.

The Arab nations could not function if all the Indians living there were to depart from their lands - Arabs are educationally sub-normal and incapable of running a modern economy.

Most European nations too would suffer if their healthcare services were deprived of workers from India.

Considering India has over 600 million people under the age of 25, I hope even more of them will come to the West where we are facing a shortage of workers due to low population growth.


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THIAGARAJAN ANAND
Time for India to Lead
by THIAGARAJAN ANAND on Apr 05, 2007 08:54 AM

India is growing as an economic power. Indian corporates houses are investing in foreign countries. All countries is now willing to have trade agreements and relations with India. Indian Government at the same time also have to take necessary steps to help the neighbouring countries when needed. Should extend the helping arm in field of education, health care and during the time of natural disaster and political turmoil.

When neighbours are not good economically, India cannot live peacefully.

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