All Arvind has doine is asking basic questions. We indeed sympathise with the victims of burning. But while dealing with "cases" in a court, they have to deal the case based on the merits of the facts told and not by the emotional appeal of the case
Anyway, it is time NHRC should start looking into anti-Sikh riots of 1984, 1993 Bombay blast trials and other incidents where victims have lost because of "reatraction of statements" by key witnesses.
It is sad and painful to note the recent trend of judges making sweeping statements on everyone else concerned ! Their penchant for rabble rousing rhetorics is plain playing to the gallery. Time and again, they have condemned in an outright and overboard manner the States conduct, exhorting them to protect public interests or resign and go home! Great show, your honour! By the same logic, if the courts cannot ensure justice to the common man, will the judges also resign and go home? Justice delayed is justice denied. Justice should not only be done but also perceived to be done. What about the rampant corruption reported in the judicial departments ? We all know how the various corruption charges against judges have been conveniently swept under the carpet. The honourable judges should exercise sensible restraint before shooting off their mouths! They only get away from criticism due to the fear of 'contempt of court' charges, which they selfishly wield on everyone else concerned. Your honour, if you wish to be honoured, please conduct yourself honourably !
Lavkare has raised certain fundamental issues. But the response column indicates that the readers have reacted emotionally, mostly divided on communal lines. That shows that most of those have no logic.It is simple to understand that a person lying under oath to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, seeking no protection from any authoroity at any time in the course of the long proceedings, now turning to say that there were threats, is a laughable entity. How does one know that the person now claiming threats is not doing so under similar threats from quarters that are not pleased with the verdict?
RE:Reply to Subbu
by Bill J Kidd on Sep 20, 2003 10:58 PM
I bet you won't laugh when you find yourself in the same situation of Zahira. Subbu its easy for you to laugh and criticise people who are forced to lie for the fear of life. Your comments speak of utmost stupidity and the ostrich-with-its-head-in-the-sand approach.So stop making a fool of urself and try to be honest at least to yourself.
Lots of readers have expressed righteous indignation but few have denied the facts. Has Arvind gone wrong with the facts somewhere? This is the main question. IF not, why the hell is everyone getting so worked up? Facts are facts. Opinions can go to hell.
Lavakare should be kicked out by the Rediff team by
rakesh jhangiani on Sep 16, 2003 05:40 PM | Hide replies | Hide message
I sincerely hope that your peers and management at Rediff have taken note of your inflammatory article that is more in the like of sensationalistic reporting, rather than a portrayal of facts. And I sincerely hope that you are disgraced and fired from your workplace. In fact your name rhymes and chimes with your religious master Thackerey...Lavakare and Thackerey! No wonder.
Any one with a certain amount of decency and civility will condemn the events in Gujarat and hope that justice will prevail for all concerned.
It is pointless to argue on the virtues of secularism and tolerance that make India unique. Else we would be another Indonesia, Pakistan or Israel. Contrary to your views Indian muslims, sikhs, christians are all moderate and secularists. The rich virtues of hinduism has influenced & insulated Indian muslims from their jihadi counterparts. Muslims, sikhs and other communities participate with great enthusiasm in hindu festivities such as divali, holi etc. Moderate hinduism and secularism has made this nation a success story.
Shame on Arvind - cheap journalism by
Vijay Kumar on Sep 16, 2003 10:19 AM | Hide replies | Hide message
Shame on Arvind! Put yourself in that brave woman's shoes and you may not survive even for a day. She is running from pillar to post asking for justice for the loved ones that she lost. What if she were your wife, sister or mother???
So the Supreme court... the highest court in India has condemned the incident...and that court has got it wrong according to you.(wont be surprised if this guy is a recruit of the sangh parivar)
Arvind, you know, I know, and we all indians know that the events in Gujrat were perpetuated by the state with the aim of maniplulating the voting numbers by polarising the hapless public.
10yrs ago... did we have any of the present religious controversies that are plaguing our nation which are simply a creation of maverick politicians and sangh parivar and gleefully supported by our erstwhile neighbors...eager to see this largely peaceful and increasingly prosperous multi lingual, multi cultural, multi religious nation of ours disintegrate into chaos.
And articles such as yours provide just the right stimulus for the so called caretakers and religious bigots to up their distructive ante.
this article has upset a lot of people, and that is a very good thing. the people upset by all this are the left wing socialists, and any time they are sad, normal people should be happy.
socialists are unable to stomach that the english language indian press is infested with left wing rabble, and that these same rabble are biased. its good that rediff writes such inflammatory articles. it gets the lefties really hot and bothered, and that is the way it should be. keep the left hot and bothered while india quitely but surely moves ahead
Lavkare has raised very pertinent and logical points for the judiciary and the NHRC to ponder over. A person who publicly acknowledges that he or she lied under a solemn oath to say but the truth should be considered an utterly unreliable person. For the media to have given wide and unmerited coverage to such a person shows the sickmind of the media. Did the witness ever write to the judge, the prosecutor, or any media or NHRC that there was threat and therefore she had to lie? The right course is to proceed against an admitted liar for perjury.
Lavkare is doing nothing but shielding the culprits in RSS parivar that are his bosses resposible for the gujarat Rioting.The court of law requires evidence.An accused is rendered as criminal only when there are evidences against him.But if the evidences are absent or made weak or purposly destroyed then the accused is exonerated.The same thing happend in Best Bakery case.The same thing happend in the massacre of our sikh brothers in 1984.Lavkare would write an article against the 'Atrocities' of the congressmen in 1984.But he would support what happened the aftermath of Godhra.because Whatever his Bosees do he's to support it.rest everything is injustice.Right from the begining the RSS people have adopted the policy of accepting 'Selective truth' and not the 'Absolute truth'.One should not forget that the RSS has its inspiration from the Hitler and his Nazi party. So his article cannot be taken as a surprise.People who do not believe in justice cannot render and support justice. Vande Mataram !!! Makarand Sane
