In 2009, Paresh Mokashi won several national awards and accolades for his Marathi film HARISHCHANDRACHI FACTORY – a film on the life of legendary Dadasaheb Phalke…In 2013, Kamal repackages, customizes, and adapts the concept for the unsuspecting Kerala audience…People who have seen the original will understand the genre and the “inspiration”. After a gap of few years, this is what Kamal could manage although no credits will ever go to Paresh Mokashi….Kamal needs a National award to justify his greys…and his repackaging of a tested formula may be just about commendable. P’raj cooperates well with the director although artists will be easily able to see through his raw expressions which could easily be replicated by any aspiring new gen actor…Both Lal Jose in ANT and his master Kamal have done their bit in rescuing P’raj…Lal Jose may have done it better than Kamal offcourse..Anyone who has seen HARISHCHANDRACHI FACTORY will be able to tell the “inspiration”…unfortunately even veteran film makers are not able to make Original films…Malayalam films reel under the accusation of copied Western and Hindi films, and yes now also cleverly adapted regional cinema….Kamal should give credit to Paresh Mokashi and stop saying he came up with this whole idea etc. etc… Having said that for unsuspecting audience who want to see something new this may be worth experimenting…
Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by Mohammed Marouf on Feb 18, 2013 04:15 PM
Dear Varoon, HARISHCHANDRACHI FACTORY is just about creating the first film in India and its success. Celluloid is about creating the first film which turns out be a social film in a language not seen cinema before rather than a film based on Historical Epics, the wrath the filmmaker had to face from the society of that period and his life afterwards. So there is a bog difference between the 2 films. So there is no need to provide an inspiration clause in Celluloid for Paresh Mokashi or whoever he is. Moreover Celluloid is based on 2 books written in Malayalam based on J.C Daniel and the first Herione P.K. Rosy. Malayalam Films are stark originals films from which nowadays the so called Hindi Films are copied to. How many Eg you want Bhool Bhulaiya, Heyy Baby, Dor, Bodyguard etc which where made in the last few years. Even Western Film like Catch me IF you Can' was made in Malayalam 15 years before it had been made in Hollywood. It is not like in Hindi where you make Special Chabbis after 9 years of Catch me if you can.
Re: Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by nikhilesh ravikumar on Feb 18, 2013 06:12 PM
and varoon,have you really watched celluloid..from yur comment,ts obvious that yu havent..for yur info nandhu madhav reprises phalke;'s role in celluloid also..either yu watch celluloid properly or try 2 watch h actory and then make baseless observations here..and which new gen actor wud have played daniels role to perfectuon as pritvi did? asif ali,the wooden actor or the super stars son? yua tre definitely kidding here mr varoon
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by hvprashanth kumar on Feb 18, 2013 07:24 PM
mallus r good copycats OR TAKE INSPIRATIONS &priyadarshancopied boeing&boeing&when a cuckoo flew... into malayalam&later when he made them into hindi, he said they r malayalam remakes, regarding ,catch me if u can, or special 26or mallu movie, all of them have been inspired from an old jain story sahasramalla where the thief outwits the king himself.
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by shyam vijay on Feb 18, 2013 11:27 PM
You know only about Priyadarshan and watched only his movies...Thats the problem...
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by Mohammed Marouf on Feb 18, 2013 11:48 PM
At least Priyadarshan copied them decently not like the movies copied in Hindi stupidly by Hindi directors like Players from Italian Job. There is 5 movies in Hindi remade from Sleeping with the Enemy. Hindi releases 2 movies based on Bhaghath Singh on the same day. This has stupidity all written over them. This is what Bollywood does to Indian Cinema. No wonder Indian cinema has such low value in International Cinema Faternity. Since you guys consider Bollywood as the face of Indian Cinema.
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by rjunchandra on Feb 19, 2013 03:04 PM
If mallus are good copycats, then wht will we call U. you guys are copying from mallu flicks. How many examples of mallu hits that are copied from other Industries do you have? We have a long list to say from the old 80's to the present. Recently, Akshay Kumar has bought the rights of 'Pokkiriraja' a hit of 2009. Another Hindi company has bought the rights of 'Seniors' another mallu flick. 'Traffic' which gave a new face to mallu flicks is being remaked to Hindi and Tamil. So don't you guys feel ashamed to call us the copycats. This wisely, Who is the real copycats?
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by rjunchandra on Feb 19, 2013 03:15 PM
How many national awards Kannada Film Industry got? Actually, Kannada is the worst Indian film Industry. There movies are all about historical epics such as Mahabharatha, Ramayanam etc... You guys don't have any quality to criticize mallu flicks b'coz you guys haven't watched good movies. In kerala, movies from Hindi, telugu and tamil languages releases and has good collection. B'coz mallus loves watching films. For mallus, films means not just entertainment. Thay always loves watching original versions. In your place, even English films are being dubbed into regional languages and making good movies looking comedy. In Kerala, Hindi, Tamil and English flicks releases throughout the state in it's original versions. B'coz mallus are Literated.
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by hvprashanth kumar on Feb 19, 2013 06:33 PM
look here , how mallus r good@lying, he says they dont dub any of the movies, allu arjun movies are all dubbed into malayalam&they have become hits, and check how many national films kannada has won, u google it&find out
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by rjunchandra on Feb 20, 2013 02:31 PM
I never told that dubbed versions are not hits. Yes, they are hits. B'coz mallus always promote good movies. As Telugu is not a familiar language in Kerala, it's being dubbed. But Hindi, Tamil and English all are reahing kerala in their own original languages. In your region even English movies are being dubbed into local and making film sounds funny. I once saw the Hindi version of Amazing spider man and was laughing the whole day.
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by rjunchandra on Feb 20, 2013 02:40 PM
hvprashanth kumar, I hav googled abt kannada film Industry everywhere, but didn't found anything shocking as you said. But if you google abt mallu flicks, It's the second most National award won film Industry. No doubt Hindi is the first as it's the main India film Industry. Will remake flicks be considered for awards? Watch movies like Manichithrathazhu, Kazhcha, Chithram, Aadaminte makan abu, Indian ruppee, Traffic, Usthad Hotel.... and realize the heights achieved by Mallu flicks.
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by rjunchandra on Feb 19, 2013 03:25 PM
Even if mallu filicks are copy, it's not from neither telugu, tamil nor kannada. These Industries doesn't give importance to story, but gives to masala, action and dialogues. Mallu flicks are far higher than any other Indian industries. That's why mallu actors got the most National awards.
Re: Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by Varoon Madhavan on Feb 18, 2013 10:24 PM
What you keep repeating as the "big difference" is the clever and shrewd film maker in director Kamaluddin (aka Kamal)...do you expect him to repeat the exact formula? now that would be undermining his intelligence....people who have seen HARISHCHANDRACHI FACTORY get a deja vu feeling on watching Kamal's work...the least Kamaluddin could have done is not go around giving interviews that he conceived this idea..yada yada yada...
By the way..."Catch me IF you Can' was made in Malayalam 15 years before it had been made in Hollywood"....take a bow Mr.MM!
Re: Re: Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by Mohammed Marouf on Feb 18, 2013 11:42 PM
Yes see the 1989 Malayalam Movie Kalikkalam. 'Catch me if you Can' which was made in 2004, can be an English remake of this movie as both has the same story line and incidently copied to Special Chabbis.
Re: Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by Venu Gopalan on Mar 24, 2013 09:47 PM
The Malayalam Movie "Beautiful" was a super hit. Its original was a french film - the dinner game, produced in 1993 or so. A hindi film Guzarish, 2003, was a weak copy of this. In all Indian films copying is a way fo life.
Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by rjunchandra on Feb 19, 2013 02:53 PM
Why should the credit goes to paresh mokashi? Did you saw the film dude? well I saw the 2 films and didn't found any thing similar. H Factory is about the first Indian film while celluloid deals with the life of the first Malayalam movie director, J C Daniel who is known to be the father of Malayalam cinema. He had faced many hardships in his life during the time when caste discrimination prevailed. The heroine of the movie, Rosie whom was a Dalit was evicted from Travancore b'coz she played the role of a Nair girl in the Film. J C Daniel also faced many issues regarding the film. So plz dude, don't comment on anything with out proper undestanding abt it.
Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by Mani Narayanan on Feb 19, 2013 08:07 PM
Varoon, if I have understood you correctly…your point seems to be largely against Kamal and plagiarism by a veteran film maker. Even if the latter is true you cannot support or prove it, especially here bcos the end product looks different….aha! First of all Celluloid is a new concept in Malayalam and worth a watch...it may not be the best effort from a critics point of view but I believe it is a good one overall, especially given the budget of Malayalam movies. Your views align more to Dalton's review of Celluloid on Upperstall. I liked that review as well. But, the argument that Kamal has been inspired by HF is difficult to prove unless Kamal himself says it. How many filmmakers will actually do it? Credits are a far-fetched idea, this is India….You also cannot prove that the makers have an eye on national award and therefore adapted a recently tested award winning formula…I think it becomes a forced argument beyond a point…and that is also a reason these things repeat. On other points I agree, Lal Jose handled Pritvi better than his master Kamal – like Dalton says many departments could have been better…but this is the best we could ;-)
Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by Mani Narayanan on Feb 19, 2013 08:08 PM
Varoon, if I have understood you correctly…your point seems to be largely against Kamal and plagiarism by a veteran film maker. Even if the latter is true you cannot support or prove it, especially here bcos the end product looks different….aha! First of all Celluloid is a new concept in Malayalam and worth a watch...it may not be the best effort from a critics point of view but I believe it is a good one overall, especially given the budget of Malayalam movies. Your views align more to Dalton's review of Celluloid on Upperstall. I liked that review as well. But, the argument that Kamal has been inspired by HF is difficult to prove unless Kamal himself says it. How many filmmakers will actually do it? Credits are a far-fetched idea, this is India….You also cannot prove that the makers have an eye on national award and therefore adapted a recently tested award winning formula…I think it becomes a forced argument beyond a point…and that is also a reason these things repeat. On other points I agree, Lal Jose handled Pritvi better than his master Kamal – like Dalton says many departments could have been better…but this is the best we could ;-)
Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by sangeetha on Feb 19, 2013 12:26 AM
Unless you have seen both films and there are scenes lifted from original and very clear similarity between the treatment of story, you cannot call it a copy. this is based on the life of a real person. Just because two people are similar, movies on their life need not be copy. Would you say all Indian movies on freedom fighters are copies of Attenborough's Gandhi. Gandhi movie may have inspired others to make movies on netaji, Sardar, Baba Saheb Ambedkar etc, but they dont have to show credits.
Re: Re: Kamal pays homage to JC Daniel but not Paresh Mokashi
by Mani Narayanan on Feb 19, 2013 08:17 PM
You have a point there but the analogy may not be entirely apt for this situation...
