It was big blunder committed by the CWG Organizing Committee to hand over the music for the CWG to Rahman. He may be good where music is concerned, but his voice is no good, and he can't dance.
Re: Rahman is no Shakira
by kumar kumar on Oct 22, 2010 11:47 AM
What you said is right. Rahman is a unparalled world class composer but he is a singer with a not too good a voice and add dance to that it is disaster.
In fact Sreeram sang both Rahman's songs i.e., Khwaja mere Khwaja and dum dara dum dara mast very beautifully and much better than Rahman himself that he could win the appreciation of a hard nut like Anu mallik.
His recent compositions, shows that he has no more stock in his brain. May be he think he achieved everything including Oscar, and fame. So either he should give us a good songs, or else we have to look for another michael jackson.
Dont compare with RD or SD Burman,Naushad,Shankar Jayki by satya venkata (View MyPage) on Oct 07, 2010 11:43 PM to dear farhan and all other commentators,
The most important thing in music(film Music) is Story, Director, budget, situation, lyrics, actors image etc. It depends how one extracts good tunes and how they demands based on the situation and commercial elements. This keeps most of the Music Directors pressurised to appeal the Audience and producer, director. Rahman is extraordinary. can u find any music director who can compose all genre of Music and can appeal all over Indian Languages with One tune, which can fit for all Languages. He is best in claasical(Hindustani, Carnatic), Folk, western to name a few. Everyone approaches, even his International tours and abroad assignments are making him breathless. This is a creative job not a factory to produce in a mass quantity. He is a Human Being He has broken Indian Grounds of Music with unique style and most of the people are not aware of his south Indian compositions which went unnoticed. People only know about his Fast numbers and Rap, pop only. One cannot compare with olden days Music, Now people expect variety music and never heard music. Hence that makes him to concentrate more finding of new tunes, where that was not the case in olden days only Lyrics and Melody was considered to make song livable for generations to listen. So do not blame A.R.RAHMAN saab. - Die hard fan SAI
Re: He is the Best for ever and Bridge to Old and New
by Farhan Shaikh on Oct 08, 2010 08:34 AM
Hello. Please do not get me wrong.I am not saying Rahamn is inferior musician. I am talking about generation of timeless melodious songs. Rahamn may be very knowledgeable in all forms of musics , his compositions may be technically perfect, but how many of tunes can say will cross time barrier and remain melodious even afte 50 years?Of course there are some of his compositions (Lagaan,Taal etc), but they are very few if we see his career encomapssing more than 15 years. SD Burman, RD Burman , Shankar Jaikishan , Naushad, gave ageless and timeless meolidies and not just one or two , but in heaps.If just sit start analyze just SD Burman compositions (Hum Dono,KalaBazaar,Kala Paani,Guide,Amar prem,Aradhana, etc etc etc, and innumerable RD compositions, and Naushad Sahabs compositions Rahman can not be compared at all. These ever reen songs are liked by south indians as well even though they may not understand Hindi language. Knowledge of music is different and I am sure SD Burman,RD Burman, Naushad sahab were not less knowledgeable in music by any means or standards. Just because Rahamn's music crossed India and is popular Internationally, it does not mae it more melodious or timeless. No offense Rahman Sahab fans.But deep inside we all feel this way!! Abhi Najao Chod kar (from Hum don), tere mere sapne (from guide), Chura liya hai tumne (Rd composition), songs of baiju bawra, mighle azam,Ram aur shyam, leader (all Naushad songs), still our hearts like nobody.
A.R.Rahman should create 100 AR Rahmans for the sake of India. Rahman does not have to prove anything to anybody. His greatest contribution will be if his protege wins an Oscar, and at the Oscar ceremony thanks A.R.Rahman - that will be a true crowning glory for the Master.
Re: Return to your roots
by mohamed hashim on Oct 07, 2010 05:48 PM
u r the worst biatch in this whole world... he is not dilip he is rahman now...respect ones faith...u biatch
Re: Return to your roots
by hegdesai on Oct 07, 2010 07:16 PM
By God's sake he has come to the final stage of his career. Simply the media and certain portion of the society has tried vigorously to get him elevated to this height for which he is really not fit. Now this is the time when the rest of the society must do their best to bring others in the field to come up and beat him.
AR has been very busy with his Jai Ho tour and international assignments. He is having very less time for Indian assignments. The proof is that Robot and Pulli(Telugu) got delayed mainly due to his unavailability to provide background score for those movies. So, the quality is also dipping. If this the case going forward, Producers and Directors will look for cheaper and quicker music options. No doubt he music is awesome, only Producers who can wait for him will employ him.
There should be a right balance between Indian and International projects to keep up the great work.
It’s so astonishing to see , how the dead critic suddenly comes alive in everyone when someones career takes a slight sprawl. As they say in hindi “chadhte suraj ko sab salaam karte hain “. Crticizing ones music is alright, we being the end receivers are supposed to that, but cataloging someone of rahman’s competence to take a break and that he is just churning out the same music every time, isn’t a righteousness to a fame who single handedly altered the way Indian film industry churned out music. This reminds me of sachin tendulkar when he was given a whipping from all directions, when media , his own fans had all criticized him and wanted him to hang his boots. They seem to have done a disappearing act now. C’mon guys, stop being so negative about everything. Rahman is a professional , and mistakes and duds are bound to happen by any professional. We Indians in general have a propensity not to stand for our own men or country. In the nearest future he would come out with a masterpiece, and the same people would be praising him again. Just my thought, may b I tend to look at the glass tats half full rather than half empty. Ready for criticism for my comment
Re: ALL critics come alive!!I
by Hifriend on Oct 07, 2010 10:57 PM
You are so right Shailesh. It's also a cheap gimmick on rediff part to ask such inflammable questions on their site and we know how easily people fall trap to this sensationalisation.
Don't think we even have the capacity to make any comments on such a great composer. That's my thought really.
With due respect to Rehman Sahab, he was brilliant in Lagaan,Rang De Basanti,Rangeela,Roja,Taal and may be a few (not more than another 5 films) movies. Howevr when you listen to SD Burman (simply innumerable films from films like Hum Dono,to Guide to simply countless films, then Gread RD Burman (again too many movies wchich can not be counted on fingers) Naushad sahab (again Mughl-e-Azam,Baiju bawra etc master pieces) , and great due of Shankar jai Kishan. Theirs was more melodious music at compared to Rehman sahab. Rehman is most innovative in terms of mixing, sound quality and rhythm, but when it comes to melodies, there are very few examples. I am sorry , but thats what I feel.
Re: Still Cant compare with RD or SD Burman,Naushad,Shankar Jayki
by ramakrishnan s on Oct 07, 2010 06:31 PM
Boss, one can't be a great merely due to sound mixing, or good recording abilities unless you have good command over both classical music as well as other forms of music and is able to compose grt music. The greatness of rahman is due to the fact that he has good knowledge of both south indian and hindustani classical music. I wonder how many of the directors you mentioned had any knowledge of south indian classical music. Rahman is able to blend the music to appeal to both the young as well as the old age group and there is lies his greatness.
Re: Re: Still Cant compare with RD or SD Burman,Naushad,Shankar J
by Farhan Shaikh on Oct 07, 2010 09:34 PM
Dear Ramakrishnan, I was not talking about whethe you know south indian music or not.I am talking about composing ageless, timeless meoldies.Very few of Rahman sahab's compsitions qualify in that category.there are heaps and heaps of such timeless melodies composed by those musicians, whether they knew south indian music or not , cant be commented by us without knowledge.
Re: Still Cant compare with RD or SD Burman,Naushad,Shankar Jayki
by satya venkata on Oct 07, 2010 11:43 PM
to dear farhan and all other commentators,
The most important thing in music(film Music) is Story, Director, budget, situation, lyrics, actors image etc. It depends how one extracts good tunes and how they demands based on the situation and commercial elements. This keeps most of the Music Directors pressurised to appeal the Audience and producer, director. Rahman is extraordinary. can u find any music director who can compose all genre of Music and can appeal all over Indian Languages with One tune, which fit for all Languages. He is best in claasical(Hindustani, Carnatic), Folk, western to name a few. Everyone approaches, even his International tours and abroad assignments are making him breathless. This is a creative job not a factory to produce in a mass quantity. He has broken Indian Grounds of Music with unique style and most of the people are not aware of his south Indian compositions which went unnoticed. People only know about his Fast numbers and Rap, pop only. One cannot compare with olden days Music, Now people expect variety music and never heard music that makes him to concentrate more finding of new tunes, where that was not the case in olden days only Lyrics and Melody was considered to make song livable for generations to listen. So blame A.R.RAHMAN saab if he associates with good directors and subject he will be class apart for ever. He is already Genius and no need prove it again to mass he will come up in near future. - Die Hard Fan SAI
Re: Still Cant compare with RD or SD Burman,Naushad,Shankar Jayki
by bijo m on Oct 07, 2010 04:05 PM
you said it farhan!!! if rahman never came up, no body would have realized that there are many musicians (other than music directors) behind the scene. bcoz he was bad he introduced everyone to lime light...God save Indians...
Re: Re: Still Cant compare with RD or SD Burman,Naushad,Shankar J
by sidddharth nathella on Oct 08, 2010 06:20 AM
Farhan, Your thoughts are fine in your context. Your comparison were to SD, RD and kin hindi musicians is also fine- which means your frame of reference is Hindi music. Fine again. And your point about how those greats were melodious but rahman was just brilliant but not so melodious music has a point too. Here is a reference frame from Wikipedia "Working in India's various film industries, international cinema and theatre, by 2004, Rahman, in a career spanning over a decade, had sold more than 150 million records of his film scores and soundtracks worldwide,[3][4] and sold over 200 million cassettes making him one of the world's all-time top selling recording artists.". Now, to the point abt melodies- its what your frame of reference and language of comfort . By your evaluation the Beatles too are unlikely to be better than Simon and garfunkel. No shame in that. RD and SD are absolute masters of their genre. But... Now coming to melodies and language- Duet, Karuthamma, thiruda thiruda, karuthamma, Pudhiyamugam, Padayappa, Alipayudhe, Rhythm, Sivaji, Sillunnuoru kadhal - all tamil examples of absolute melody. Again melody is in the receiver's ear... Then there are scores of hindi too - taal, etc that I claim to be melodius but I cant speak for a discrerning hindi ear. Its not necessary nor fair to make such comparisons-they all are legends in their own right - but rahman put Indian music on world map the best of all-indisputably. Wh
