Situation : A former beauty queen from an educatted middle class background gets into movie business, with a flop debut movie, and than got involved with a superstar shorter superstar , they had a heady affair, superstar was known for his rash behaviour and women bashing skill. Wanted to get out of relation but was stuck. Came in picture tall not so gudluking not exactly a "star son" stud , who had two hits in his credit . Was young , heady with sucess and had s "student politics background", poor guy wanted to a Knight in shinnig armour for this Beauty queen, who was actually in vunerable situation. Got face to face (media to media) with this superstar , thought "it" to be most democratic way to handle tussle, BUT bollywood has got its own protocol and heirarchy , nobody supported him,
SO beauty queen moved little westward with her fame , beauty queen actually realised that this guy was no gud foe her, and was more of situational guy , but didnt want break , as would be termed as a BAD Women,but never acknowledged his presence. Found a suitable match with an industry heir got married.
Superstar : found another girl friend , mended his ways a bit (no body has seen his gf with black eyes) , and went on being a consistent performer, and last heard now prefer fighting with man than hitting women
Now the dud dude, couldnt handle gf and also bit of succes , no superstar loyalist wanted to work with hime, so eventually remained dud . ANYHOW Vivek was a gud actor, he
Re: 3 Parties were involved
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 03:07 PM
thats the most unfortunate thing in india...that no one supported viveik... when some one threatens some one else... people actually support the guy who has threatened... goes to show how long we need to go before calling ourselves civilised
Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 Parties were involved
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 03:19 PM
why trying to provoke people when u know everyone knows u wany to do that...keeping a name.. jai hind.. u want anything but that.... he he.. I could go on to abuse u better but then, I am not u.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 Parties were involved
by Kamal B on Sep 11, 2009 03:38 PM
I think Jai Hind is correct.Her reputation is so bad and everyone knows the truth. Number of Aish haters are higher than her fans in this forum. Raghu, u must have observed it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 Parties were involved
by Jai Hind on Sep 11, 2009 03:32 PM
I am not like u.. I dont wanna be a patient of AIDS. I know u will keep posting in favour of her hoping that she will give u wat u want..best luck..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 Parties were involved
by Jai Hind on Sep 11, 2009 03:27 PM
Wats ur problem Raghu? r u her Lawyer? or u r paidd by AISHABHI?? mind well, Nobody is going to change his/her opinion abt Aish.
Re: 3 Parties were involved
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 03:52 PM
Obviously poor people like Rahul sharma cant afford hher..this is his frustrattion..
He still behaves like an immature guy. He also dumped his GF, why he cries when he had to taste his own medicine. Salman didn't talk about Aishwarya in public, Shahid doesn't talk bad about Kareena. None shares their private life or play blame game on their ex. Grow up, concentrate on career... U got the talent, don't waste it.
Re: Grow up vivek
by Devin Aaron on Sep 13, 2009 05:10 AM
He jst said wht ws asked by farah, so whts the big deal. Vivek evn never spoke of his break up post ash and nvr said any bad things abt her either. Unlike aish comin out on the media w.a statement against working w.salman khan nd her whole domestic violence tht she stated. Compared to tht, evn vivek wud hav received a statement frm ash just like salman.
As far as the RAI thing goes, he is not immature now bt tht is the common and easy word fr opinion isn't. It's farah's stupidity for actually twisting his words nd givin it a new meaning, thn suddenly media makes it's own story abt "vivek speaks bad of ash". Thn u pepul ar so gullible to believe tht 1 word triggers a whole episode.
Also the plastic thing he said while not referencing to any pepul by names, if he finds tht thn its his opinion. Why bother when vivek is not making it a big deal anyways.
Ashwarya is no 1 opportunist her crooked smile itself speaks how clever she is. She wants to get associated with every third guy who si riding high salman,vivek,abhishek and now hrithik..she want to maintain distant with her female co-star as if her level is too high being bachhan bahu...she think people loves her no one will dare speak bad on her but her popularity is declining due to all these reasons
Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Good ForAll on Sep 11, 2009 02:02 PM
Raghu, No doubt that Ash is most beautiful, but at same time ''Ash way of opportunist'' is some thing to nore....to some extent Ash way corrupted the mind many women in India...change the Boy friends and relationships is new mantra iN India after Ash episode...since ASH is popular, she is and set the worst example in relationships...even bolly also followed the same suit. nothing to jealous or some thing...but ASH is worst plastic
Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 02:07 PM
Dear Good for all,
there is no abstract proof to say that she is an opportunist because the fact remains she has achieved a lot more than all her boyfriends to date and that she being a woman deserves appreciation...and many actresses have had numerous affairs before ash.... shilpa shetty, raveena tandon, etc etc.. I could pull up a list... And it is not her mistake if her first know boy hriend turns up to be a woman beater or even some who is so over posessive....
Infact into her new parivar.. she is far more famous and powerful than jaya bachchan or abhishek.. So if anything she has also added value to the bachchan parivar in making it more powerful not just the other way round...
Re: Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Good ForAll on Sep 11, 2009 02:24 PM
Mate, Ash is infamous for looking at her own benefits and she is typical Bengali fish, will do any thing for lime light and own benefits...look at history and it does speaks, start from Modeling career, Rajiv to Abhishek baccha, 6 guys been involved by her with great remoulding plastic as said by many including Vivek. every one has freedom to do any thing hence no criticism...just trying to put thoughts here..During modeling Raj for here chances and next Sallu for chances, next vivek family to escape from Sallu and mafia and next Amitabh family to save her self from big guns in bollywod mafia....her strategy and mind set is look for benefit time to time and fkkkk the commitment...this is more Holly style than Bolly style...later tons of women in India followed the same including Kareena, Bips and Rani and so on and tons of women india as the impact of change in attitudes, here notable point is many indians does follow Bolly
Re: Re: Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 02:43 PM
u are again repeating the same things even after me giving examples of people setting bad example way before Ash.. and this is a soceity we are leaving in.. No person can be independant.. They have to dependant on others... Salman also had to depend on his fathers lineage..SRK also had to go from door to door asking for roles(as said by Salman).. Aamir has confessed that he had to distribute the posters of QSQT himself to promote the film.. No one is independent my friend..Atleast ash didnt have any one so influential to fall upon as Salman ort Aamir.. She came from a middle class background and achieved a lot more than the star sons.... So theres nothing wrong if some one depends on an other person.. That doesnt make them opportunists... And opportunism doesnt win any one Miss World, for godsake it is a world peagent, Opportunism doesnt get anyone a padmashree nor does it get them to Madame tussauds.. Opportunism doesnt get them to be recognised by foreigners , its her talent and looks . And she isnt a bengali.. She is from karnataka... So dont get regional...and lets not talk about bips or kareena... There are people who know bips and from the days of her bhawanipur college and kareena is always known to be rude and haughty.. Its the most foolish thing to blame ash for that when affairs and breaks in the industry between big stars have been going on since decades... As I said she has achieved much more than anyone and certainly justcalling her an opportunist sounds lame.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Devin Aaron on Sep 13, 2009 05:19 AM
Sorry dude, to each his own bt as far as international recognition is considered ash's looks only matter bt never heard of western media talking abt her acting.
Its a good thing for indian's to know tht western media considers ash india's official diplomat as said by oprah. WOW, she is really good on speaking of indian culture.
So is ash an actress or a diplomat, b.c a diplomat doesn't spend time on loreal and being a princess evry day of her life or wears nice dresses. Come on, wher is the change in india tht ash shud know tht the country needs to improve on so many levels. Is she doing a good job in congress. Let me know, whts she thinks of u.s india relations as far as politics ar concerned.
Re: Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 02:12 PM
and if anything about setting a bad example, it started way back in bollywood since the times of Dharmendra and Hemamalini, followed by rekha, parveen babi etc etc all big stars during their time.. So lets not just point fingers at her...
Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 02:10 PM
AND YES IF THERES NOTHING TO BE JEALOUS OF ash.... jealousy wouldnt have existed in the world because given her achievements and attributes she gives people more reasons than anyone to be jealous of her..
Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Guest on Sep 11, 2009 04:33 PM
Reading most of the comments felt that Raghu is appointed lawyer by Ash. For god sake, let others to express their view and stop interrupting them. I hope you are not Ash instead of Raghu.
Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 01:56 PM
ur message breeds of jealousy.... she is one of the most beautiful women from india....and she hasnt done anything wrong or controversial for people to talk about her... So when you dont get anything dont start saying things like these just for the heck of it... As far her breaking up with actors goes, 90% of the heroines have had more affairs or breakups than her....
and she doesnt need any guy to ride high on
1. she has been Miss world 2. She is the most successful beauty queen who had been a bollywood female actor.. the rest we all know where they are.. 3 The most recognised Indian female actor more than hrithik, abhishek etc... I stay here in Croydon and people in UK(not the BBCDs) know aishwarya and amitabh from India.. not hrithik or abhishek
4. Actress has been awarded Padmashree A female with such multifaceted achievements, obviously u are jealous of her
Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Raghu Kumar on Sep 11, 2009 01:58 PM
I meant the most recognised actor internationally....more than abhishek or hrithik...
Re: Re: Re: Re: she is root cause for every prob
by Jai Hind on Sep 11, 2009 03:41 PM
Wats ur problem Raghu? r u her Lawyer? or u r paidd by AISHABHI?? mind well, Nobody is going to change his/her opinion abt Aish.
Aishwarya Rai is way out of his league. The only reason she dated him was because she needed emotional support after her breakup with Salman. The moment she had got over Salman, she ditched Vivek like a used rag.
Re: Vivek aim lower
by umesh agrawal on Sep 11, 2009 01:38 PM
She new that Salman will never fight inpublic with people like vivek who isnt even somewhere near his stature.
The fight would have been beneficial to Vivek and Salman would have been looser in any case.
She used him Vivek well for putting off the differences with Salman.
And once the purpose was solved as it should have been, vivek was dumped and she went for another big name of film industry.
Why couldnt Vivek anticipate the outcome, afterall she (Ash) was a beauty contestant winner .
People win these contests only if they have the sense to use the situation in their favor. So it was well expected.
When she broke off with salman, she needed someone on the rebound, a shoulder to cry on. Poor vivek was elated and did what was exected of a protective boyfriend at that time. Unfortunately, in his enthusiasm, he did not follow the bollywood code of HUSH HUSH. He is not an bollywood type. I feel bad for the guy. Hope he does better in bollywood. All the best
Unitedly foughted to win the game, never mind you are on the wrong side.
Yes, After breaking with Aishwarya, Salman send threating SMS in the midnight to VIVEK, Now Vivek has 5 option,
1st: To reciprocate by sending him SMS which is not the right way.
2nd: To go and fight it out in the ring, which again is not the right way.
3rd: TO go to Police, which would have been good, but since people want to settle it out themselves for small things.
4th: To keep quite, which would have encouraged salman for more harassment.
5th: To embarras Salman without hurting him by calling Press Conference. This was the right thing which could have been done and was done by VIVEK.
Now comes the real picture, everybody including MID-DAY News paper (Very Smartly as always), starting projecting VIVEK as culprit. So when thousands shouted against VIVEK, he himself thought that he had done wrong thing.
MORAL of the Story: Fight Unitedly to WIN the Game. Because everything is fair in love and war.
Re: Example
by Dona Paula on Sep 11, 2009 01:14 PM
Damn right you are. I sort of feel bad for the guy. All the best to him. Hope he finds someone who can reciprocate his love.
If someone threatens you then you have to take some action. Its sad that he was blamed instead of the actual culprit. (with idiotic reasons like what happens in the film fraternity should remain a secret or should be solved within.)
Vivek Oberoi is a great actor better than the so called superstars.
