SRK had decided to go for marketing his film "My Name is Khan", first through making a controversy and then gaining publicity for his film through his dialogues which supposedly will flaunt Eslaaam. Right SRK?
Such cheap tricks can be expected from a Cheap g(a)uy.
booooooooooo! first Knight Riders...with Gavaskar and now this....he is going berserk like Rajesh Khanna did at one time.
Re: SRK's promotion gag backfired
by Chohan on Jun 22, 2009 12:10 PM
Why don't u stick your middle finger inside you-where it belongs. No one is that retard to put their life in danger by stirring maulvis. My name is khan doesn't need to be market. It will be block buster overseas as usual. Knight riders owner is SRK . He is not playing the game , you fool. he made sure that people watch IPL. He got paid by all financiars of IPL. He is a big succes, you retard
Re: tired of mullas
by Waseem Khan on Jun 20, 2009 12:49 AM
You please sent all the mullah to gallows,if you can, so that people like you utter all the rubbish and non-sense things about ISLAM & its PROPHETS,peace be upon all of them.
Don't know why an issue is being made out of this .. There are people who have not read the Quran ..and are not familiar with the life of Proph_et . Hence anyone can give any statement ..
Famous Non Muslim Historians who actually read about the life of Proph_et : Thomas Carlyle in 'Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,' 1840
"The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muh_ammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only." "A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so."
Alphonse de LaMartaine in 'Historie de la Turquie,' Paris, 1854. "Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs.... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muham_mad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"
Washington Irving 'Mahomet and His Successors'
He was sober and abstemious in his diet and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected but a result of real disregard for distinction from so trivial a source. In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received
Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by jawed on Jun 19, 2009 10:53 PM
1) Well if experts on this forum are going to talk about Is_lam and Quran without actually reading the Quran - then it is my right to correct them .
2) Some people will never appreciate if someone exposes their falsehood ..
If you choose to associate the blast with Mus_lims ..it shows your shallowness and narrow mindedness .. So according to your logic ..if some doctors are caught selling fake medicine and selling kidneys ..you would blame the profession of medicine and you would assume that all the doctors are involved .. And if a Hin_du Brahmin killed Gandhi - did he do that after reading the Vedas and Bhagwad Gita ??
Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by Meraj Alam on Jun 19, 2009 10:43 PM
HisMajesty, its not fair on your part to simply ignore the positives put by Javed. He is just trying to put that part of Islam before you which you perhaps aren't aware of. Javed shouldn't keep all these things with himself, it is good that he shares them. You need to be as good a lister as u r a writer.
Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by jawed on Jun 19, 2009 10:20 PM
You wrote :people have been at each others throats since Islam was invented..
Famous "Non Mus_lim" historians write..
De Lacy O'Leary in 'Is_lam at the Crossroads,' London, 1923.
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Mus_lims sweeping through the world and forcing Is_lam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.
Gibbon in 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' 1823
The good sense of Muha_mmad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab.
You are a victim of ignorance and misinformation..
A. S. Tritton in 'Is_lam,' 1951
The picture of the Mu_slim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur'an in the other is quite false.
And I didn't know that the person who killed 6 million jews was a Mus_lim And the country that dropped the atom bomb on Japan was a Mus_lim country Also I am not aware of "suicide bombings" happening on a daily basis in UAE , Qatar , Oman , Bahrain Unfortunately some people have difficulty in understanding that when you invade and occupy countries for oil - there will be a reaction ..
Re: Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by Drona Bhatnagar on Jun 20, 2009 10:09 AM
Try to read other half of the story as well at faith freedom dot org.
Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by Unlimited Storage on Jun 22, 2009 08:32 AM
if u third rated idiots can comment on hinduism, by the same xtian commentators, why not u be commented. Go get a life.
Again its u bound to respect moh means, a non-believer need not respect him. and can comment about him, ofcourse not below the belt. but may about his spritual teacings etc.,
Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by Middle Finger on Jun 20, 2009 01:03 AM
only one question after reading what u said.
Do you Moozleems follow what Mo_hamed taught?All that you described are the mannerisms of Hindu Sanatan Dharma..which was missing in ARabia before the Pro_phet.
And after he died or attained salvation...the followers used his idealogy to capture power, money and forgot all the Human Values.
Treating any non-moozleem seperately was the highest crime according to Pro_phet which is still not followed and rather all Mooghals converted people to eslaam forcing them with Jizia Tax and other heavy duties. So they got converted rather than going through pain.
Simplicity of the book was used to grab power. Someone who is realised and real character can only stop it. First stop supporting Pak which is being used by western politicians to malign the religion.
Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by jawed on Jun 19, 2009 10:10 PM
A person who was called Al Ameen (trust worthy) even by his sworn enemies does not need a certificate from actors or some XYZ
Re: Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by Meraj Alam on Jun 19, 2009 10:46 PM
Mohammed was a perfect and gentle human being who was sent by God to show the right path to people.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by Meraj Alam on Jun 19, 2009 11:38 PM
irrelevent question HisMajesty. have you met everybody you know? - relevent question only in the light of your question. Better doubt the nonsense and unheard kind of things propagated on public forums.
Re: Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by MMUSA on Jun 20, 2009 12:59 AM
hahahaha - holy crap! sdt, ppl like u bcome swami's later on.. like my favourite - santosh madhavan alias AMRITACHAITHANYA !!
Re: Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by Eye Opener on Jun 20, 2009 12:39 AM
Mohammed SAS was the master of Mankind...He brought revolution to humanity. The greatest human being to walk on this Planet.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Making a mountain of a molehill
by extreme on Jun 20, 2009 10:30 AM
what abt Buddha? He was asked by his disciple once.. abt the future of this reli-gion. He said Buddhism will be vanished with the changing world and humanity towards misery, cunningness and lack of compassion. He never said to take revenge and suk blooo-d even if the others do. thats the great humanity.. but he said the sooner the world is towards its end more the people will become bad, worse and worst.. thats we see now... its all humanity we lose and if we lose humanity b=uddhism automatically vanishes, but this is truth. whoever or which ever religion involves in non-violence and blood shedding..remember thats not a reli-gion but a Ev-il, no matter what reasons u give. I mean no offence...we need humanity (=Buddhism to fight these odds).
@ Pramod : Before uttering anything ..it would be wise to check the facts . Proph_et was married to Ayesha RA after she attained puberty ..and I don't know if girls attain puberty at 6 .. And guess what ..Ayesha's own parents propsed the marriage with Proph_et .. Proph_et had initially refused .Every culture and age has its own norms ...and during those times .. the marriage happened as per the tradition prevailing at that time .. Ayesha RA was of the fiercest supporters of Prophe_t Muhamm_ad both before and after his death .
Thomas Carlyle in 'Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,' 1840
"The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muha_mmad) are disgraceful to ourselves only." "A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so."
And if sex was the only driving factor ..then Muhamm_ad could have easily chosen the short cut .. When Proph_et Muhammad started teaching worship of One God - every one is equal , pay 2.5 $ of wealth in charity every year , stop killing female child , stop using religious middlemen - the Arabs got together and offered to make him the King , give him the most beautiful women in Arabia and shower him with all the the wealth ..
When Proph_het refused - they tortured him for years and plotted to kill him ..
Re: Re: @Pramod
by jawed on Jun 19, 2009 10:06 PM
Well then you might want to get in touch with Hussain Yee a Budhist who embraced Is_lam and is now a leading scholar of Is_lam
Re: Re: Re: @Pramod
by HisMajesty on Jun 19, 2009 10:42 PM
And may be we all should listen to Mary Garcia from NJ who married a M0slim, got converted to his religion, went to Saudi to only find that he had already married two women already, then he fathered her kids, and locked her in the house for years. Then she escaped and fought her war to get her daughter back. She eventually did. There is a movie on this real life story. So yes, we need to listen to Hussain Yee, Chand Mohhamed and likes why exactly they make that move. Besides it sure is a fun to watch women in Hizab, camel getting halal treatment and infants tied to camels belly in the race. I have no doubts that its one peaceful religion and we all need to consider conerting to it, if they dont destroy this planet already.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Pramod
by jawed on Jun 20, 2009 01:08 AM
O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Al_lah brings about through it a great deal of good. (4:19) This is Is_lam and this is Quran ...not what some XYZ does or does not do ..Alcohol and gambling are prohibted in Is_LAM ..but that does not stop some people with Mus_lim names from drinking alcohol ..
Bases on what XYZ does ..you cannot judge teachings of Is_lam and Quran
If you want women to move around in Bikini and not cover themselves modestly like nuns and practising muslim women ..that is your problem .. Listen to yvonne ridley the British femnist journalist talk about rights of women in Is_lam
Camel riding has anything to do with Is_lam ? Does bride burning for dowry have anything to do with Hinduism ? Does evading taxes in India related to Hindu_ism .. Regarding Chand Moham_med -.. I can use the power of Science to do good ..i can also misuse the power of science to cause damage to others ..you don't blame science if someone uses E=MC square to make an atom bomb and drop it on innocent civilians
Re: Re: @Pramod
by Anita on Jun 19, 2009 10:04 PM
Please dont limit yourself by saying, I belong to this particular place, I am from that culture or I belong to this religion. It is like children saying, My dad is better than your dad, or My toy is better than your toy. I think most people around the world are stuck in that mental age group, just the toys have changed. Adults say, My country is better than your country or my religion is better than your religion.
A Christian will say, The Bible is truth, and a Hindu will say, The Vedas are the truth. They are very ancient. Muslims will say, The Koran is the last word of God. We attribute glory to something just because we are from that culture, not for what it is.
If one could take credit for all that exists throughout the ages and feel as though It belongs to me, then, that is maturity. This is my wealth because I belong to the divine.
The Divine, according to time and space, gave different knowledge in different places. One becomes the knower of the whole universe and can say all the beautiful flowers are from my garden.
The whole evolution of man is from being somebody to being nobody, and from being nobody to being everybody.
Have you observed that young children have that sense of belonging that oneness, that innocence? As we grew up we lost that innocence and became more cunning. The innocence of an ignorant man has no value, and the cunningness of an intelligent man also has no value.
Good Human is a rare combination of innocence and intelligence.
Re: Re: Re: @Pramod
by s b on Jun 19, 2009 10:23 PM
BRILLIANT...absolutely Brilliant. Our commentary of religion is usualy more a commentary about ourself.
Re: Re: Re: @Pramod
by jawed on Jun 19, 2009 10:30 PM
You raised some good points ..but who is a good Mus_lim :
A practising Mus_lim will follow the Quran ..and this is what the Quran preaches :
“Worship All_ah and join none with Him (in worship); and do good 1) To parents, 2) Kinsfolk, 3) Orphans, 4) Al-Masakin (the poor), 5) The neighbor who is near of kin, 6) The neighbor who is a stranger, 7) The companion by your side, 8) The wayfarer (you meet), 9) And those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Al_lah does not like such as are proud and boastful.” The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 4, Verse 36 All_ah means the God in Arabic and is not an exclusive "Mus_lim God" ...
Regarding ur analogy : "My toy is better than your toy" ..That does not hold good for Is_lam if you read the Quran ..
Isla_m is not a new Religion started by the Prop_het Muham_mad(peace be upon him) around 1400 years ago.It is the same truth proclaimed by all the Prop_hets who came before him, right from the time of Adam.Mus_lims believe in all the Prop_hets like (to name a few)Abraham,Moses and Jesus(peace be upon them all) and the divine revelations like the Torah(Jewish Holy Book) and the Bible(Christian Holy Book).
This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than God; On the Contrary it is a Confirmation of (Revelation) that went before it. And a fuller explanation of the Book Wherein there is no doubt from the Lord of the Worlds. Holy Qur'an (Chapter 10, Verse 37)
Re: @Pramod
by Middle Finger on Jun 20, 2009 01:05 AM
only one question after reading what u said.
Do you Moozleems follow what Mo_hamed taught?All that you described are the mannerisms of Hindu Sanatan Dharma..which was missing in ARabia before the Pro_phet.
And after he died or attained salvation...the followers used his idealogy to capture power, money and forgot all the Human Values.
Treating any non-moozleem seperately was the highest crime according to Pro_phet which is still not followed and rather all Mooghals converted people to eslaam forcing them with Jizia Tax and other heavy duties. So they got converted rather than going through pain.
Simplicity of the book was used to grab power. Someone who is realised and real character can only stop it. First stop supporting Pak which is being used by western politicians to malign the religion.
