some people always bring in ARR into discussion whenever IR is talked about. IR is a genius and nobody can doubt that but ARR is more of a revolutionary music composer who brought in new sound to indian film music and the world has acknowledged it. Roja was the biggest turning point in indian film music and yes i do agree that IR is a better composer but technically ARR is way ahead from the rest of the pack. ARR has always maintained that IR is his inspiration but I watched an interview of IR few years back and he did'nt have very good things to say abt ARR. None of ARR fans ridicule IR because no geniune music lover can do that but most of IR fans abuse ARR and have only bad things to say abt him. The fact is that both IR and his fans have not been able to digest the success of rahman. IR is a genius but rahman is no less, infact he is responsible for the popularity of indian music worldwide. He is truly a global musician, He has scored music for films in tamil, telugu, malyalam, kannada, hindi, chinese, english and also done two stage musicals. He started with jinggles and has composed music for innumerable ad films so he is much more versatile than IR.
Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 01:56 AM
Younger generation who grew up with Arr's music has to know a lot of things about IIR and his music before commenting about his fans. When IIR came into field, many of MSV fans were not able to accept him. However, as the days passed by, most of them accepted him and became happy to see some one coming up with some thing new. The transition was smooth and enjoyable. That period also, has witnessed some technical changes , quality of sound , stereo etc. People those days were never disappointed with the music of even a single movie. That generation could watch the movies only in the theaters unlike this generation which uses DVD's most of the times. His music was quite different in all the four south Indian languages. He is as adorable in Andhra as he is in Tamil nadu. But because He is a man belonging to that generation He is never interested in publicity. Many incidences can be quoted. He has a high level of Gratitude for MSV. This is proven when he says that 'till now what ever he has achieved is kept on MSV's feet (offered to MSV)'. This was told by Him in a function that was arranged in Andhra to Felicitate MSV. You might know that he seldom takes interest in any functions. This is proven when he says that 'till now what ever he has achieved is kept on MSV's feet (offered to MSV)'. This was told by Him in a function that was arranged in Andhra to Felicitate MSV. You might know that he seldom takes interest in any functions.
Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 02:07 AM
Only to honor MSV he attended that function. Like this, there are many examples which can be given. My intension is not to change you or influence you by any means. I just want to bring out certain facts that are unknown to this generation because many of you were kids when Arr came to field. Most of IIR fans also listen to M.S.V. songs and vice versa. ARR after entering the field couldn't satisfy many of IIR fans, who grew up with MSV, and IIR music. Except for the quality of sound which was due to modernization or up gradation. That's why most of the people complemented him as a good sound engineer than a good composer. One after another his movies and songs left them only with disappointment with many songs being reused from either MSV or IIR,only with some changes. People who play any instrument would definitely know how easy it is to play his tunes. IIR fans were waiting for Rehman to bring a change that IIR brought in late 70's and 80's. Certainly some songs could reach them. However, the numbers remained very low for many years. As the years passed by ,they felt it is better to be away from the synthetic music that created harmful sounds. With Rehman's entry most of the musicians who were earning their lively hood in the industry by playing drums, sitars, guitars, flutes etc had to pack their bags and go home. I have wittinessed some musicians who have been displaced and are struggling for their livelihood.He uses one guitarist (from Australia) and one Keybo
Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 02:16 AM
He uses one guitarist (from Australia) and one Keyboard. One cannot expect IIR 's fans to fall prey to such kind of a thing. IIR fans definitely enjoy good music from other Music Directors also, provided the tune is hum able and the interludes are touchy enough. It is a fact that Arr worked under IIR which Arr refused to acknowledge when he entered the field. One can refer to his interviews that were given during those days. True IIR fans saw in him a greedy person craving for fame by hook or crook. which he was able to achieve. There is nothing wrong in having aspirations, setting goals and reaching the target. Arr belongs to this generation and will be worshiped by this generation. Just recollect the story that we read in primary classes ' The emperor's new clothes'. That's what is happening now. Don't confine yourself only to Rehman's music, listen to 60's, 70's, 80's and then comment. Also listen to Hindi songs of 60's, 70's, 80's 90's. Listen to all the music directors and then listen to your heart. You are not blessed enough to grow with the melodies given by khayyam, LP, Kalyanji, etc.A song is that which starts with an amazing prelude, which has heart touching interludes in between and flows like a river. If there is no flow it is not at all a song. Listening to good music would definitely make you musically more matured and improve your judgment skills.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 02:21 AM
Junk food definitely tastes good and fills your stomach, but it is not good for your health. Given the situation, no one can stop this generation by eating junk food, but they can try to eat healthy sometimes at least. Most of the people of this generation who claim to be listening to IIR's compositions also, have not listened to even 5 percent of his songs. With more than 5000 songs in more than 5 different languages, most of HIS fans too have not listened even 50 percent of his compositions. Most of the people are in a false opinion that ARR replaced IIR as IIR replaced MSV, which is not true because IIR brought in a change that was for good. Just imagine Rajni with out IIR, Kamal without IIR, Vijaykant without IIR, Satyaraj without IIR, Karthik with out IIR and above all Mohan without IIR.. Like wise you can also imagine Chiranjeevi without IIR, Nagarjuna without IIR, Venkatesh without IIR etc. These names may even sound new to this generation. It is a fact that most of the movies were big hits only for His songs. Such was the craze it created during those times. Now a days music is imposed. Getting recognized globally is a part of globalization which came as a blessing to Arr, becoming popular is an achievement to this generation, where as being Genius is considered an achievement by that generation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 27, 2009 10:28 AM
I admire ur sense of humour by saying that IR is a ocean and that Ocean will not come to river.Just beacuse u say he is a ocean He would not become one.No one cares whether IR fans listens to ARR songs or not. But the whole of India does it. After he wins the Oscar(whihc I think he will) the whole world will listen.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 27, 2009 10:28 AM
In many programs it is mentioned that ARR was a keyboard player. It is a known fact that. Give the instance showing ARR is greedy. U seem like a tamil newspaper reporter coining ur own story without any base. what hook and crook he achieved. Seizing the opportunity and utilising it is not greedy. It is intelligence. If ARR has that y u blame him.
The Tamil music started way before 60s. If u r able to appreciate classical music u can see that M.M.DhandapaniDesikar,S.V.VenkatRaman,G.Ramanathan have given immortal melodies.U cannot deny that. It seems u heard only ur IR era songs.To some extent MSV songs. Have a diversified listening.
For ur 5000 songs, in ur version as IR fans have not even listened to 50% of his songs, How u rate them? Just for statistics he can have that he is a composer who composed for 5000 songs. In what way it helped.I mention again about the quality not quantity. Regarding ur combo of actor MD, it is complementing each other i.e. both benefitting out of it. Nothing great about it. Nowadays it is the director who calls for the quality not the actor (in ur generation). So no point in mentioning that. Also i have to pity u for ur taste.In short u have confined urself in a nutshell and do not want to come out of it. Better be happy in it.
IR wanted a lot of recognition but he could not get his due. I also agree to it. But right thing at the right time . This happened to ARR. So agree to it else start being a tamil newspaper reporter
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 02:48 AM
The equation is totally changed now. Your heroes have changed, your directors have changed so is your music. You enjoy your music and be happy, become pseudo patriots, raise sham slogans.IIR never wanted anything for himself. So are his fans. We want not only Arr but also other music directors like Harris, Yuvan, Vidhyasagar, Bharadwaj etc also to be recognized, because these are the people who have more films in Tamil industry than Rehman who hardly gives 2 or 3 films in a year. Can you ever praise the work by these Music Directors? I pity you for not being able to enjoy true music. Arr fan can always be IIR fan also but a true IIR fan can not be Arr fan. It is just like a river can flow into an ocean but an ocean cannot go into a river. Tamil nadu does not Deserve IIR, that's all i can say. your generation is going to understand this only when everything is gone out of your hands. It may sound crazy, but you always make mistake in choosing the right things for you, even your leaders.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 27, 2009 10:27 AM
First of all before talking about the current generation, I hope only u need to have the maturity. All along u have been saying that IR has acknowledged MSV. U need to take a note that begore IR's arrival MSV was a King. He was legend when IR arrived. So he had to attend it. Later when he was usurped by ARR, he couldnt digest it and he did not even praise about him or any of the current MDs as u have mentioned YSR,Vidhyasagar.
For ur information, ARR was the first to give credits for the musicians in the record label For example Naveen - Flute, VinayakRam - Ghatam and even the Chorus group also was represented. But IR always never gave due for them.
Same like him, U IR fans also could not take IR's decline and started foul mouthing ARR.
For ur info I also love Classical music from Carnatic,Hindustani and Western Symphonies. I also listen to IR songs and appreciate that.Dont think that ur generation have better taste. Ur generation even now are not able to digest the fall of ur idol and live in ur 8Os. It is good if u live in it but teh world has moved ahead. I think for u people I should say Jago Re.
Even now I would say that IR is not magnanimous when it comes to encouraging others.
We never said he is not good.He is one among the best but not the best.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Sriram Govindarajan on Jan 27, 2009 10:04 AM
haha...your futile attempts only tickles my funny bone....
Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Sriram Govindarajan on Jan 27, 2009 10:02 AM
thats a great fiction Anupama.....ARR has reached more than IR could and thays why he is an internatinal ICON and not IR...you cudnt stand ARRs' success...pity you...ARR's Roja was listed in Time magazine's top 10 best soundtracks...there are many other facts I can divulge but that would upset you...
Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Sriram Govindarajan on Jan 26, 2009 07:42 PM
well said....ARR still has his feet on the ground that makes him a better human being than IR....IR has his egoistic nature to blame...ask Maniratnam and Bharatiraja abt that...
Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 02:57 AM
Have you ever met IIR. You should be ashamed of making such a comment just by believing the media. Just think about how may hits IIR has given to Maniratnam and Bharatiraja. It happens only in Tamil nadu. If you want to supress some body, create all kind of nonsense and just make your business. Being a non tamil i have more knowledge about the politics going on there than you people who have closed your eyes and ears to everything,just because you are the most immature generation this country has ever seen. Maturity comes with the kind of music you choose to listen and movies you choose to see.
Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Srivatsan Muthuswamy on Feb 23, 2009 06:48 PM
I strongly support u Anupama! there is noone to surpass Raaja and there wont be anyone.
Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Sriram Govindarajan on Jan 27, 2009 09:58 AM
looks like you have closed your ears and eyes,thats why you didn't know that...I am least interested in politics....but no one can deny the fallout between Illayaraja and those directors...
Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 27, 2009 10:54 AM
By saying this generation as immature u have given a proof of ur maturity oops immaturity. Learn while u argue place some arguments and substantiate it. No point in bluntly saying that this generation is immature. The problem with the old generation is that they cant take anything new and to suppress it they say it is not good, not our culture and so on... The point never comes to a Tamil or Non-tamil. Discuss about music. we never asked who ur or whats ur mother tongue. Music has no languages. No point in saying about the politics. Learn a saying "AAYIRAM KAIGAM MARAITHTHAALUM AADHAVAN MARAIVADHILLAI". If u r destined for greatness then nothing can stop u. May be IR so immensely talented is not destined.
In one of ur threads u had metioned that good MDs like Anu Malik. I have to admit ur sense of humour here. From that understood ur taste there itself and ur maturity also. As per ur words Maturity comes with the Music taste.
Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 10:23 PM
I just wanted to test how this generation is going to retaliate to my posts! you have proven your arrogance! keep it up!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by B Jack on Jan 28, 2009 05:43 AM
its funny to read some of the comments here. music is not about dance numbers & few melodies. Only the work of a genius will touch ur soul - when is the last time ARR scored a BGM similar to Sethu & brought tears in ur eyes?
ARR is a very music director, I respect him - just like any music lover (every IR fan) would do. But, there is a lot of difference between good & great. IR is simply great.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: both IR and ARR are great
by Aruna on Feb 19, 2009 07:03 PM
Ilayaraaja has touched many hearts by soulful music and the songs are timeless.
some people always bring in ARR into discussion whenever IR is talked about. IR is a genius and nobody can doubt that but ARR is more of a revolutionary music composer who brought in new sound to indian film music and the world has acknowledged it. Roja was the biggest turning point in indian film music and yes i do agree that IR is a better composer but technically ARR is way ahead from the rest of the pack. ARR has always maintained that IR is his inspiration but I watched an interview of IR few years back and he did'nt have very good things to say abt ARR. None of ARR fans ridicule IR because no geniune music lover can do that but most of IR fans abuse ARR and have only bad things to say abt him. The fact is that both IR and his fans have not been able to digest the success of rahman. IR is a genius but rahman is no less, infact he is responsible for the popularity of indian music worldwide. He is truly a global musician, He has scored music for films in tamil, telugu, malyalam, kannada, hindi, chinese, english and also done two stage musicals. He started with jinggles and has composed music for innumerable ad films so he is much more versatile than IR.
Maestro Ilayaraja has said that he was amazed and transfixed while watching Naan Kadavul’s “double positive”. “With this movie, Bala has surpassed his previous bests –Pithamagan, Sethu and Nanda,” said the great music director. Ilayaraja
He added that it would take years for any other director to attempt such a beautiful theme or to even think of such a theme. The legendary music director also added that he is honoured to compose music for such a film.
Ilayaraja stated that as he envisaged the theme, he entered into a “new state of mind” while composing the film’s music. He said he has tried his best to score equally engrossing music. Though Ilayaraja humbly downplays the significance of his music, the effect it had on a sadhu while Bala was filming a song will surely speak for his talent; the sadhu, mesmerized by the song played at the shooting spot in Kasi, walked up to Bala and said it was “divine”, without understanding the Tamil lyrics. This innate capacity of Ilayaraja to create tunes that transcend language barriers, make him Bala’s most-preferred music director.
In fact, Ilayaraja’s music and Bala’s ideas complement each other. When you watch the film, you will be able to feel what the sadhu meant. Plus, Arya has taken a great deal of effort in putting across Bala’s ideas through his acting. It could be said that he “lived” his character in Naan Kadavul. Heroine Pooja too has given her best in the film.
Re: Ilayaraja on 'Naan Kadavul'
by saigeetha jagannathan on Jan 25, 2009 04:58 PM
contd
Mysskin, the latest to discover Ilayaraja’s prowess, chose to have a mega climax lasting 45 minutes, without any dialogues, supported only by the maestro’s music, for his forthcoming Nandalala.
PS: “Double Positive”, a cinematic term, is a sample version shown to artists (especially music composers) to enable them to get a feel of the film and work on their part suitably.
The South Indian Film Field was kept alive by Ilaya Raaja from the onslaught of Hindi and English.He was totally dedicated to the Industry and had been working for 18 hours a day which brought in small time players into the field as producers and directors and even actors.He was not selective to give music only to big producers and big banners.Can anybody work to give music for more than 35 movies in a year? As per IR music should flow freely. ARR is known to give selectively for big banners for big money.He is a business man who manages his time between media and composing.Even now IR uses live orchestra to give the livelihood for the musicians.Whereas ARR is giving synthetic sounds replacing real musicians and this was told to me personally by a musician who shifted out of Chennai last year.Even during his hey days IR was not using the media.He did not have time and also he was not bothered about.Old Type.He will be talked about for long but fast music will disappear fast.We heard from the telugu director of Mallepuvu that all the songs were tuned in less than an hour.Compare this with months of waiting for a movie from ARR. Who is serving the industry more selflessly? ARR is like Sachin who are class examples of selfish individuals.
Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 26, 2009 09:00 PM
Good to see a reply for me in a separate thread.Now coming to the reply.
For your information we need to see the quality first and not the quantity. To put it in a common words "Panni paththu kutti podum aanaal yaanai oru kutti than podum". This may sound offending but I do not have any other way to answer ur question of IR doing 35 films a year whereas ARR at most did 9/10 films a year.ARR chose not to concentrate on quantity but quality. Thats y most of his albums had almost all the songs as hits.
Now coming for the small banners Shankar was a beginner in Gentleman.ARR attended to it. What about May Madham,Puthiya Mugam.
Where the selfishness came here. U havent said how did u come to that conclusion. ARR never hesitates to praise other MD or claim that he is the best.He gives due credit to his technicians. Infact he even praised SAR for the song "Ytho Oru Pattu". But IR has never appreciated other contemporary MDs. He thinks that he is the best. He is among the best and certainly not the best.
Some of IR fans have mentioned that he does not need Oscar for his recognition. In sports,unless a player wins/just misses a Olympic or Wolds Championship medal or any Majors he/she is not recognised as a Global talent. Similarly in Music also u have to prove yourself in Global arena to prove ur talent. If ur saying that it is not needed then it is up to you. No point in degrading other MD when they prove in the Global arena.
Re: Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 03:09 AM
Mr. Rangarajan, i am sorry, now i have come to a conclusion that you are a die hard fan of Arr who pretend to listen also to IIR, IIR never lacked quality even when he was giving more than 35 films, there is no need to compare. Let us just leave. Just avoid commenting about IIR's music with out listening to his compositions in other languages, like Telugu, kannada and Malayalam. Ofcourse i don't think you have listened to His Tamil songs also. As far as we are concerned we make a comment only after listening to all the songs. We have listened to all the songs of Arr so far, where as you didn't get the opportunity to listen to even 5 percent of IIR songs. You sounded broad minded in you first post, and also matured, hence this thread was started. but this shows how much narrow minded you are, and how you call all others narrow minded. No more comments. You be in your own world and be happy. I really feel sorry to start this thread. good luck.
Re: Re: Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 27, 2009 10:45 AM
Wow I donno that u r good in Astrology. Predicting that I pretend to listen to IR songs. Thats a good try. But hard luck. I may be a ARR fan or IR fan because I appreciate both of them which u do not do for ur own reaons(??).
Before calling me narrow minded just check in yourself. I never degrade IR and recognise him. But it is u people who never want to accept ARR which the whole world is doing. This shows who is Narrow minded.
No need to be sorry for the thread. Face the facts.Accept it else u r living in ur 80s. Mind that the world has already moved ahead.
Re: Re: Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Sriram Govindarajan on Jan 27, 2009 10:07 AM
how many singers did IR introduce?ARR has given break to a lot of singers.....some of them wudnt have imagined to be doing the playback singing...
Re: Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Venkateshwaran K on Jan 27, 2009 01:50 PM
Ayengar,
Understand that your reference to panni and yaanai is not appreciated. That is a ridiculous analogy and should in fact be reported for abuse. But I guess it has not been reported for the simple reason that people in this forum should know what kinda person you are. Rehaman is a good instrumentalist. Period! Show us one good counterpoint that he has written. Nay, composed. Forget about a good one, show us one counter point. I studied wetsren classical music and my teacher used to take Raaja's compositions as examples to explain about concepts in western classical music. For instance, the use of the seventh chord. Rehaman does credit instrumentalists. Thats because he gives a few bars and asks the instrumentalist to fill it. Raaja, on the other hand, has the complete score written down. Every note played is his score. Does Rehaman ever write notations? No, he doesn't. He is a glorified musician, and a very good one at that. Take his latest albums. Does he credit any bass guitarist? Keith Peters who has worked with him extensively does not figure in the list. That's simply because the bass is also sequenced now, played on the keyboard by Rehaman himself. I do accept that Rehaman is great, has taken Indian "film" music to great heights. But the fact remains that he will never be able to write a score like Raaja did for Thiruvasagam. Do not make such comments that you have made to make a point. It is in bad taste.
Re: Re: Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by anupama boopathy on Jan 27, 2009 10:46 PM
You are right Mr. Venkateshwaran. IIR has never said that he is the best, even after achieving so much, he says he has achieved nothing. It was only after reading yesterday's post by Mr. Rangarajan where he used such words, i was forced to bring out some points that, in my view has not reached the present generation. The definition of good music is surely changed now. I don't think there is much to be worried or bothered as long as they allow us to listen to what we like and not pester us to accept what we cannot. Most of us give preference to melodies . A good melody by any music director( even if it is ARR) is definitely enjoyed by us. But when question comes about the Greatness, our vote definitely would be for IIR. I curse myself for wasting my time by posting comments to these people. It looks silly.
Re: Re: Re: Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 28, 2009 12:47 AM
what is this ridiculous analogy?
Reporting to moderator for abuse?
Analogy is not a literal comparison. If u understand like that I cant help it. Also for the nature of myself I dont think u people out there need to give one.I personally think that u people can do that.
The argument started when one of ur IR fans started degrading IR for which I retaliated. But u could not stand the facts and started saying foolish, immature ..... and so on.
First learn to respect other MDs greatness. Live and let others live. If u dont like it leave it. Y call ur MD as great and others mediocre.
Grow up. I wont say that I have wasted my time here, bcos got the experience of the nature of a sect of people calling themselves as followers of Good music.
Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Sriram Govindarajan on Jan 26, 2009 07:48 PM
IR is good...but he thinks that he is the best...thats the problem with him...thats the reason Maniratnam and Bharatiraja had to part ways....ARR always keeps his feet on the ground....And you were talking abt usuing live orchestra,I guess we are in 2008,not 1990....If you are not aware,ARR has setup an organization that takes care of young talents.....We never degrade any other musician like you do and thats the speciality of an ARR fan....ARR is the best and he trully deserves the oscar...
Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 26, 2009 09:00 PM
Good to see a reply for me in a separate thread.Now coming to the reply.
For your information we need to see the quality first and not the quantity. To put it in a common words "Panni paththu kutti podum aanaal yaanai oru kutti than podum". This may sound offending but I do not have any other way to answer ur question of IR doing 35 films a year whereas ARR at most did 9/10 films a year.ARR chose not to concentrate on quantity but quality. Thats y most of his albums had almost all the songs as hits.
Now coming for the small banners Shankar was a beginner in Gentleman.ARR attended to it. What about May Madham,Puthiya Mugam.
Where the selfishness came here. U havent said how did u come to that conclusion. ARR never hesitates to praise other MD or claim that he is the best.He gives due credit to his technicians. Infact he even praised SAR for the song "Ytho Oru Pattu". But IR has never appreciated other contemporary MDs. He thinks that he is the best. He is among the best and certainly not the best.
Some of IR fans have mentioned that he does not need Oscar for his recognition. In sports,unless a player wins/just misses a Olympic or Wolds Championship medal or any Majors he/she is not recognised as a Global talent. Similarly in Music also u have to prove yourself in Global arena to prove ur talent. If ur saying that it is not needed then it is up to you. No point in degrading other MD when they prove in the Global arena.
Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 26, 2009 09:02 PM
Good to see a reply for me in a separate thread.Now coming to the reply.
For your information we need to see the quality first and not the quantity. To put it in a common words "Panni paththu kutti podum aanaal yaanai oru kutti than podum". This may sound offending but I do not have any other way to answer ur question of IR doing 35 films a year whereas ARR at most did 9/10 films a year.ARR chose not to concentrate on quantity but quality. Thats y most of his albums had almost all the songs as hits.
Now coming for the small banners Shankar was a beginner in Gentleman.ARR attended to it. What about May Madham,Puthiya Mugam.
Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by MEENAKSHI SUNDARAM on Jan 25, 2009 03:25 PM
Well Said, Ilayaraja creates big directors like Bharathiraja, Bala, Manirathinam, but ARR working with big banner.
Re: Re: REPLY TO RANGARAJAN
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Jan 26, 2009 09:58 PM
Ridiculous. IR did not create MR. He had the previlage to work with them. Both the MD and the director complemented. It worked for some films.
This is when he thought MR cannot survive without him. Then came in ARR and Roja and the rest is History. MR expanded his boundaries after joining hands with ARR.
the om shivo hum and kannil paarvai are exotic. the rest are quite dull but nevertheless better than some trash we have been subjected to in the name of music. illayarajas music here bears the 80s hangover of his earlier films..nevertheless more than decent.
Re: soulful but heard- before- types
by anupama boopathy on Jan 24, 2009 07:07 PM
One needs to grow up and become more matured to understand Ilaiyaraaja's music!! The generation which grew up listening to 70' and 80's music is definitely more matured than the present generation. Hence when you come across real music you fail to understand and appreciate. I pity the present generation which refuses to go beyond 90's, where as we are enjoying songs of 60's also.
You are right... M...U...K... definitely has an eighties feel, because it is an eighties song...from the movie Achchani. Raja must have remixed his own song at the behest of Bala - vaguely remember reading that Bala was moved by the heart-rending nature of that song.
