That is our Shivanna..see Maadesha..super duper hit fillum..see rockstar hairstyle, six packs and super acting of our Shivanna..super dancing and super musica also..he rocking..all other heros are phus phus infront of our Shivanna..
Dr. Raj Kumar avarige jai...
All kannada people and people in Karnataka should see to our Shivanna fillum Maadesha and not this computer robot fillum Wall - E..no fights, no songs, no dances...Shivanna rocking...
Re: Only one hero in fillum world
by ABHISHEK GANGULY on Sep 17, 2008 07:11 PM
is this your particular brand of satire or do you really mean it? I mean, gosh, if you really mean it then may god save you and show you light.
'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe long lasting because the connection between cause and effect turns out to be only statistically valid and only relatively true..... I define synchronicity as a psychically conditioned relativity of time and space.'
Wall-e is an excellent movie that is engaging and also beautifully put together. A must watch for people who enjoy good cinema.I truly feel sorry for those who cant appreciate well made movies. -Shalini
Re: Awesome movie
by Zaigham Mirza on Sep 11, 2008 10:15 AM
I am glad there is still hope. Wall-E according to me is one of the best animation films ever, certainly the best movie this year. It's so full of creativity that most of the morons missed it completely and are therefore trashing it here in the messageboard.
Pardon my language but I have always felt that Hindi film buffs have mentally retarded parents who reared them on unadulterated manure. You can't expect them to enjoy Wall-E, they want Love Story 2050 for fiction, and Kyunki Saas bhi kabhi bahu thi for drama. How pathetic can someone's life be!!!
I read most of your reviews and come away bewildered by your "references" and little asides and complicated sentences. Let me offer you a little bit of advice. Almost everyone who reads rediff is an Indian and most of them are likely living in India. There maybe a fair number of NRIs reading rediff.com, but it is not necessary that all of them live in the United States. Now, what we require generally in a review is the gist of the story and a straightforward answer as to spending money watching it. I understand you are passionate about movies but I am not sure you hit the right note with your writing. For example you refer, in this review to Curb Your Enthusiasm and Cheers - most of us do not what you are talking about. It is simple to add a line explaining your reference. But I suspect that these references are less to inform your audience, but more to show how "clued in" the writer is. You referred to so much such foreign stuff in the review of Bachna Ye Haseeno too - and it makes less sense there, it being a Hindi movie. All of your reviews are pretentious - let me throw my own reference here - They are supposed to read like A.O.Scott reviews (who reviews in the New York Times - see how easy to explain the reference?). But we are not interested in magnum opus reviews, throwing around your clued-in character. We want simpler writing.
Re: Raja sen,
by gokul dharmana on Sep 02, 2008 09:43 PM
The beauty of the English language lies in its complexity. There are feelings, emotions which can't be explained verbally unless you use English to its full potential. If you can't understand, please go to some dumbed down bollywood website and read mediocre english reviews there. But there are people who are competant enough to enjoy good english, so please don't give your lectures here
Re: Raja sen,
by Ramiah Ariya on Sep 03, 2008 01:50 AM
But hold on...I have been debating online for a long time and the easiest way to stop someone from replying is to claim that you have superior sensibilities and that you have better refined taste. That argument is not going to deter me - because it is circular. It is one thing to say you like Raja Sen's writing but quite another to say that that people who do not like him, do not like good English. How do you know that is the case? You don't know anything about anyone online. I repeat, the biggest problem with Raja's writing is not grammar or just complexity (although you would prefer to think of it that way). It is his throwing random references to American pop culture, and his lack of explanation of those references. A writer who does that is not very confident of himself. The reviews are more about Raja than the subject matter. At its core, it is not good writing at all. It is more name-dropping than a critique of a movie.
Re: Raja sen,
by Sandeep Modi on Sep 04, 2008 11:12 AM
Hey Ramiah, Your reply was quite interesting. Yup, i get your point of his writing not being upto the mark, and not the films he is reviewing, and probably you have the advantage/disadvantage of having read more reviews of his to comment on it. But i disagree on the ur POV of commenting on the Indian Hindi Film Industry (please no Bollywood!) through Raja Sen's review. Yeah, films need to be made about Malaria, Poverty rather than the other complexities blatantly overdone in our films, but the way to do it is not in the hands of the reviewer but the viewer. As long as people watch these films they would get made. So Ramiah, it goes back to your court, Also, please understand that a review besides the detail is also about the bottomline, so if you are bashing the reviewer you are also bashing the POV, which in tis case is Pro WallE. So whether you like it or not you don't seem to agree with the reviewer. Ramiah, i like the fact that you air your opinion, but it is so dumb and bujour in its own review of the reviewer that it holds no merit. Well tried, its a win win situation for you, you are right, cheap publicity that you may need. Actually, if you start your blog of reviewing the reviewer it would be more fun. Cheers Ramiah, you are kickass.
Re: Raja sen,
by Zaigham Mirza on Sep 10, 2008 11:06 AM
What Ramiah is saying is simple: "Write to express, not to impress". And most of us here agree with him
Re: Raja sen,
by Sumant Bhattacharya on Sep 02, 2008 08:41 PM
Ramiah, Your observations are bang-on. Raja Sen's reviews are a big show-off, nothing else. He writes as if he is sitting among a handful of cinema scholars who have nothing else to do in life than quiz each other on trivial movie details. He just writes, never communicates. Not a single reader of his reviews likes his style, not even one will remember him as a good writer of reviews. That's the end result of all his tripping on vocabulary. I stopped reading him long ago, maybe you should too.
Re: Raja sen,
by Sandeep Modi on Sep 02, 2008 08:54 PM
Guys! Wow! I am not an avid Raja Sen reader, but i found this review bang on and nicely put. When you say 'We want simpler writing' it aches! Its India saying 'We want more Singh is Kings' and not anything remotely intellectually engaging. (Not tht i didnt enjoy singh is king, just that i knew wht 2 expect , but if i end up seeing it again i might just tear my hair out'. Guys, u r right. A country only gets the people and films u deserve. U guys surely deserve all the shit you get each friday. congratulations. Raja Sen, please stop writing for morons, atleast stop expecting them to appreciate it. Cheers,
Re: Re: Raja sen,
by Ramiah Ariya on Sep 02, 2008 09:10 PM
Dude, what has Raja Sen's writing got to do with Singh is King? I am criticizing his writing - not the movies he says he likes. But again, you miss the point for a reason - Raja Sen writes for people like you. There is nothing remotely intellectual about his writing style, but it is enough to give an "impression" of intellectualism. It atleast shuts up everyone because noone wants to comment on the Emperor's new clothes and sound anti-intellectual.
Re: Raja sen,
by Ramiah Ariya on Sep 02, 2008 09:06 PM
The reason I am so angry with Raja Sen is because he never has really highlighted the central problem in Hindi movies. He has treated them as if they are perfectly normal movies. The central problem in Bollywood is that they have suddenly decided that every movie should be made with a white audience in mind. Most movies are made abroad and start with a storyline like "Two people are sitting in the Waterloo station..." and assume that is a perfectly normal setting for a Hindi movie. I can understand one or two, but most movies are about NRIs or people who look extremely westernised in India (Jaane Tu comes to mind). This is an unnatural phenomenon in any movie industry and a cause for concern. Well, guess what, none of the reviewers like Raja Sen have talked about this. Thus movies now are made about dyslexia, autism or alzheimer's - no more common malaria or tuberculosis or cancer movies. Movies figure young people's "commitment" problems - while most of this country's young people are starving. As an industry Bollywood has decided we are completely westernised and that everyone is an investment banker. Atleast part of the reason for this is that Bollywood is really, at core, a talentless business - most movie plots are stolen and very few actors can act. Most "stars" are inbred relatives of each other. When is Raja Sen going to comment on that? Meanwhile, a mmovie like "Swades" was svaged on rediff - because it showed normal Indians.
Re: Raja sen,
by Jatin Patel on Sep 03, 2008 12:29 PM
I completely agree that Raja Sen tends to toot his own horn every now and then. I'm from America and I understood the Cheers and Curb Your Enthusiasm comments. I did not think they were out of line. But I do agree that most reviewers do not look at the core problem of Hindi movies being made for a westernized audience instead of the Indian audience they should be made for. The main problem I have with Hindi film maker's approach to reaching the western audience is that they undermine actual Indian problems. A film can appeal to audiences of all sorts without modernized parents and "poor" people that live in better houses than me. A film can appeal to audiences of all sorts without songs. A film can appeal to audiences of all sorts without taking place in a big city or in a foreign location. They need to realize that real problems and realistic movies can be made to appeal to a wide audience.
Re: Raja sen,
by Pharoah on Sep 03, 2008 01:15 AM
If you dislike Raja Sen so much, then why the hell you keep reading his reviews? At least don't show your double-standards by mentioning 'For ex In this review you mentioned...' and also saying 'I stopped reading him long ago, maybe you should too.'. You are such a loser that you exposed yourself to this world and still pretending(or in your words, "impression of intellectualism") to be a smart-ass...But you know what? We like your kind of people who constantly criticize Raja Sen and make him more popular than before. Your 'community' is the one which gives him the energy(and probably, money too) to write more and more creative and original review. We like Raja Sen's reviews(despite some exceptions like 'Singh is Kinng') and we also wish you to write more and more replies to this thread so that he wins the race and you get relief from your daily frustrations.
Re: Re: Raja sen,
by Ramiah Ariya on Sep 03, 2008 01:58 AM
Actually no, I also win because I got so many responses to this thread and I don't even have a column with rediff. My total writing in this discussion thread is getting as big as the review itself. So, it is really a win-win situation.
I have not suggested that Raja should stop writing; he is passionate about movies and that shows - what would help is a little less of pop culture references and more honest reviews of Hindi movies.
Who want your comment the SRK ,YASH Camp marble milkman..hey mate this is from hollywood not your khan/Chopra where u are famousm for milking thier marbles
I'm actually quite disappointed with the level of Wall-E bashing I have read in these comments. I found Wall-E to be an emotional and captivating film that held me in from beginning to end. People expect an in your face kind of message from animated films, something lacking any subtlety or deeper meaning, as the oft-mentioned Dreamworks film Kung Fu Panda (I loved it, but c'mon, it shoved the message "Believe in yourself" in our faces a little too much).
I'm sorry your kids didn't appreciate it, but you should know by now Pixar doesn't make films for kids. They make films for people. My nine-year-old brother, four-year-old sister, AND eight-year-old brother loved it, even the romantic elements. The fact your kids didn't like it doesn't mean it's no good, it means it's just not their kind of movie.
I applaud you for this review, Raja, and agree whole-heartedly that Wall-E was the best film of 2008. I'm just sorry so many people failed to see the true beauty Wall-E offered them.
Re: Go Wall-E, Show Disney How It's Done!
by Sanjay M on Sep 02, 2008 07:57 PM
I disagree.. This movie rarely got me immersed. But the love story element was done wonderfully at the end. It was quite gripping!!!
Re: Go Wall-E, Show Disney How It's Done!
by Zaigham Mirza on Sep 11, 2008 10:18 AM
Sanjay, Wall-E is not your kinda stuff, you should only watch Lovestory 2050. No offence but taste and aesthetic sense are unfortunately connected. Not your fault, I give you that.
One has to be a little too connected with the theme and premise of the movie to feel elated with Wall E. I agree that in some areas the execution is Pixar class and brilliant. Entertainment value ?. Not really.
Wall-E is a boring movie altogether. when a movie gets good review in US, Indian reviewers just follow them. First half is rubbish. Second half, showing human beings fatty story was better. Wall-E lovestory theme also is good. But the movie is dragging. It was like a good theme given to the wrong director or script writer(who ever decides the flow). Animation is good. Kunfu Panda is far better.
Re: Booorring
by indian on Sep 02, 2008 06:48 PM
ya man. i mean they depicted romance so overwhelmingly, with the robots with no face and no speech. its inconceivable for most of the people and of course they are bored by it. and ya its not for kids.
Re: Booorring
by Sanjay M on Sep 05, 2008 11:20 PM
ya man. I mean the overwhelming romance scene is more than enough for many people. and ya the robot was faceless
Re: Booorring
by Roshan Vijay on Oct 29, 2008 09:48 AM
Learn to watch movies other than those of Bollywood... Pixar does not make movies for kids... It makes movies for 'human beings'... i have a doubt about who ever doesn't like animated films...
Re: Booorring
by Zaigham Mirza on Sep 11, 2008 10:03 AM
You are bang on, the first half was rubbish. And sure, the greatest thing in the whole movie was the fat humans!! Yeah 'KunFU'Panda was better. Wow, I don't know what to say to this guy...
