Just a thought guys.If u look at the roles portrayed by Irrfan... 1.Macbeth in Maqbool. 2.Monty in Life in a Metro. 3.Prof Ashoke Ganguli in The Namesake 4.Coffeevendor Thomas in Mumbai Meri Jaan He also has that incredible ability to become the chracter.There is not a shred of similarity between Maqbool or Monty or Ashoke Ganguli. @sunshine The only southee actor who is truly world class is Mohanlal( think of RGV's Company) @Sarkar 1.Aamir is an actor first, then a superstar 2.Everyone going for an SRK movie to c SRK 3.When SRK attempts something different, his fans like u makes it a flop. 4.They always want to c SRK to romance girls BRILLIANT OBSERVATIONS!!! Comparing between Aamir & SRK is like comparing between Tom Hanks & Tom Cruise
Re: IS IRRFAN KHAN A BETTER ACTOR THAN AAMIR?
by varun on Oct 16, 2008 12:18 PM
no ways, irfan khan is a much better actor than aamir but aamir is also very good. The likes of irfan, kay kay, naseer are in the league of their own, the only mainstream actor that can be compared to them is aamir, naseer himself told that aamir is a gr8 talent.
Frankly I think too many Indians give too much credit to Shahrukh Khan where there are other greats out there. He has no chance of overshadowing Aamir, not in this life-time. Aamir plans things out and work hard, Shahrukh doesn’t….he’s all for romance and comedy and all over television, psychologically people get fond of the people they see as much as they have seen Shahrukh, and that is just the sad truth.
Re: aamir is better
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 07:26 PM
Frankly I think too many Indians give too much credit to Aamir Khan where there are other greats out there.
He has no chance of overshadowing SRK, not in this life-time.
Aamir is too self-righteous and steal ideas from others, Shahrukh doesn’t…. he’s successfully done all kinds of roles, hosted television shows. People the world over are fond of him 'coz SRK comes across as a honest guy. Aamir on the other hand behaves like a looser, pokes fun at SRK behind his back and shows his insecurity, arrogance and cheap mentality. and that is just the sad truth.
Re: aamir is better
by varun on Oct 16, 2008 12:52 AM
Undoubtedly, Shahrukh Khan (with no ‘father’ or ‘godfather’ in the Hindi film industry) has shown to the world what ‘a superstar’ is really all about (Does anybody requires any proof? Well we don’t think so.) However, there is a difference between being a ‘a star’ and ‘an actor’, thankfully, our Mr Versatile, belongs to the latter category. Yes Aamir ... is ‘an actor’, rather ‘The Actor’.
Re: aamir is better
by Sarkar on Oct 16, 2008 09:46 AM
"Shahrukh successfully done all kinds of roles"
Biggest joke of the millennium, Mr. rahul bose, u r proving that u r a true idiot... Everyone going for an SRK movie to c SRK and not the character, coz, he's larger than life... When he attempts something different(Swades, according to me, the best role of SRK), his fans like u makes it a flop... They always want to c SRK to romance girls... One more thing... SRK is auperstar... Aamir is an actor first, then a superstar... There is lot of difference...
Re: Aamir is a genous
by geby jacob on Oct 17, 2008 02:39 AM
right on saif.. words of sheer genius :) SRK sucks.. he is just a product who dances in his chaddi at weddings so that he can buy chaawal..
Ho says mangal pandy flop his supper duper flop i thing amir have to appoint one teacher for the good manners classes SRK is great man yar don’t cross his way his not interfering with you
Re: Sharukh is 100 time better than amir
by Jack on Oct 15, 2008 05:09 PM
SRK flops: 1.Paheli 2.Swades 3.Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam( ha ha !!) 4.Asoka 5.One 2 Ka 4 6.Josh 7.Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani 8.Baadshah 9.Duplicate 10.Koyla 11.English Babu Desi Mem 12.Chaahat. These are after DDLJ
Re: Sharukh is 100 time better than amir
by Jack on Oct 15, 2008 05:38 PM
If u go by no of hits and Box Office then Jackie Chan is a better actor than Jack Nicholson
Re: Sharukh is 100 time better than amir
by geby jacob on Oct 17, 2008 02:55 AM
u're right rahul.. SRK cannot be compared with Aamir Khan.. Himesh Reshammiya is a better match for SRK :) lol
Re: Sharukh is 100 time better than amir
by Sanjay Majumder on Oct 15, 2008 05:43 PM
Right said man, but these stupids who thinks box office is the ultimate will never understand where real talent lies.
Re: Sharukh is 100 time better than amir
by pulkit agrawal on Oct 15, 2008 04:31 PM
no sorry i dont think u r right bcoz both shahrukh and aamir have thier own legacy and both donot need certifications from any one of us.
Just look at Aamir's filmography: 1.NikumbhSir in TZP 2.DJ in RDB 3.Mangal Pandey 4.Akash in DilChahta Hai 5.Bhuvan in Laagan(Nominated for OSCAR!!!!) 6.Dil Navaz in Earth(1947) 7.ACP Ajay Singh Rathod in Sarfarosh(my favourite). 8.Sidhu in Ghulam 9.Munna in Rangeela Compare it with SRK's filmography. Same old romantic roles!!!(xcept Bazzigar, Swades & ChakDe). SRK is just a star.Whereas Aamir don't just act. He BECOMES the character.
Re: aamir is more versatile
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 04:22 PM
@jack
versatility???
there's no action film, masala film,
compare it with SRK-
action - don thriller - baazigar psycho - darr tragedy - devadas masala - Main Hoon Na and OSO comedy - yes boss
aamir good in limited range only... his films are always better than his performance... none of the films u mentioned here are known for aamir's acting... they are known for their subject...
Re: aamir is more versatile
by Jack on Oct 15, 2008 05:20 PM
1."his films are always better than his performance" That's the point dude. That's because Aamir never tries to become larger than the film. Shahrukh only plays himself. 2."... SRK even makes a shit look good..." That's the magic of packaging.Foreign locales,designer dresses,dazzling songs make even shit made by KJ and the Chopras look good
Re: aamir is more versatile
by varun on Oct 15, 2008 04:54 PM
would you call don an action film, all srk did was wear designer glasses and leather jackets to potray anger on his face, the reason why people did'nt like don was no-body could differentiate between the two characters srk played. aamir has his fair share of comedies. andaaz apna apna, his tapoori act in rangeela(srk would'nt be able to do that in 100 yrs), who can forget his dch act. He has not done any serious action movies may be ghajini will full-fill that and it's also suppose to be a thriller. He has done a negative role in 1947 earth and according to many it was his best performance till today. He has also done his fair share of masala flicks like raja hindustani, rangeela, ishq, fanaa, ghulaam amd all have been successfull. versatality is not doing masala film or action films it's looking the part in every film, srk never satisfies that criteria may be he has too strong a personality to look different in every film or as per popular belief he is just not good enough.
Re: aamir is more versatile
by Sarkar on Oct 15, 2008 05:05 PM
agreeing 100%, varun....
The films rahul bose listed to prove SRK's range is entirely ridiculous... May the respective fims be different, but SRK's acting in all those is same... How stupid he is to say that Aamir has got limited range...
Re: aamir is more versatile
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 05:06 PM
@varun
raja hindutani, rangeela, fanaa, ghulam are not masala films... in fact, aamir has never done a masala film... 'coz he very well knows that he can't carry off the film...
aamir is good but in a limited range... aamir's films re always better than his performance... while SRK takes the responsibilty to make the film a hit most of the times... Aamir fails big time on this criteria...
aamir looked like a joker playing a casanova in ishq... fanaa was trash... so unlike what u say aamir is not always look a part...
Re: aamir is more versatile
by imran pathan on Oct 15, 2008 04:26 PM
Mr.jack u see Sharukh get every time challenging role not like amir he choose only suitable role its like to choose wife
@rahul bose, you mentioned that aamir is a poor producer, are you out of your mind, look at the films he has produced lagaan, TZP and JTYJN. He has got a 100% success rate at the box-office, Barring jtyjn none of the movies could have been a safe bet at the box-office unlike the movies srk produced which were low in content and quality. Could you ever compare a main hoo na to a lagaan or oso to tzp? everyone who have watched both the movies would agree which is better. Whereas srk has produced some disasters like pbdhh, asoka and paheli. He doesn't have the sensiblity nor the talent aamir has to recognise a good script. He is successfull only if he has 25 girls dancing around him in london or newyork.
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by Sarkar on Oct 15, 2008 05:19 PM
U r the biggest idiot man... U don't know what is quality Cinema... For u, the masterpieces in Bollywood are DDLJ, KKHH, DTPH, K3G, Devdas, Main Hoon Na, Don,OSO... Ur each stmt showing that u r rather insecure to the core... How pathtic are u to say that Aamir has limited range... U said SRK makes a sh.it look good; it is not like that, instead, all SRK has been doing over these years is delivering shits by one one and morons like u are regarding them as masterpieces...
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 05:39 PM
@Sarkar
U r the biggest idiot man... U don't know quality cinema... For u the masterpieces in Bollywood are Dil, Raja Hindustani, Rangeela, Ishq, Ghulam, Fanaa...
Ur each stmt showing that u r rather insecure to the core... How pathtic are u to say that SRK is not a good actor...
U said Aamir is a great actor; it is not like that, instead, all Aamir has done in the 90s is delivered one shit after another.... in 200s all he has done is selected good scripts... and morons like u are regarding him as a great actor...
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 04:25 PM
@varun
I never said Aamir is a poor producer... He has developed a great judgement of scripts since 2001... his films are always better than his performance... they are more known for their subject than aamir's acting... while SRK makes even sh.it look good...
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by varun on Oct 15, 2008 04:43 PM
his fims are always better than his performnaces, that is exactly the defination of a good actor. He knows what and how much to do for a particular role, whereas srk always over acts and his hyper and over the top behaviour for every role is mis-understood for his energy on screen, whereas aamir has a subtle acting style and knows what emotions to potray at the right time.
Re: Re: aamir a poor producer?
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 05:43 PM
@Jack
Dil Se bombed 'coz of the subject... no body understood it when it was released... Asoka needed a better production values and the romance angle was ridiculous... Josh again was stupid script...
While Aamir spoiled Mann... he was looking like a joker playing a casanova...
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by varun on Oct 15, 2008 07:02 PM
go and see aamir's filmography, he got a national award for raakh. Lagaan also won the best film award and dil chahata hain won the best film for wholesome entertainment. Even rdb won the national award for the best movie on national integration. Sudhir mishra himself told that in 2001 aamir was close to winning the award but in the end they chose to give it to a malyalam actor.
Re: Re: aamir a poor producer?
by varun on Oct 15, 2008 06:19 PM
if you count the number of bad films done by both aamir and srk, i'am sure srk is going to win hands down. Yes mela was a disaster but those kind of films are few and far between for aamir, he always maintains a certain standard, and quality assurance is more for aamir's movies than srk. as they say srk might be the king but aamir is the ace and ace always wins.
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 06:25 PM
@ varun
aamir never got a national award for raakh...
sarfarosh for no patch for zakhm
lagaan was too gimmicky to get the national award... (do u really think aamir's performance was so great?)
SRK was a contender for Swades but the award was given to Saif for Hum Tum... there was a huge controversy at that time...
aamir's performance was always mediocre that's why he accuses Indian Awards but lick's oscar people's as.s... 'coz in Oscars it is the film that gets nominated not the performance...
Re: Re: aamir a poor producer?
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 06:43 PM
@varun
"if you count the number of bad films done by both aamir and srk, i'am sure srk is going to win hands down."
and SRK will win hands down in the number of hits also... bigger hits also... blockbusters also...
when u do one film there are always a better chance to make it a hit (one- because u will wait for the best script... two - because ppl will wait for ur film and most probably won't like to miss it)...
Aamir b/w 1988 to 1995 had given just 6 hits - QSQT, Dil, Dil Hai Ke Maanta Nahin, JJWS, Hum Hain Raahi Pyaar Ke and Rangeela... in the smae period he has given around 15 flops... it's only when he started working on one film at a time that his record improved...
plus, apart from QSQT and Dil... most of them were just small hits... barely crossing the line...
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by Sarkar on Oct 15, 2008 06:02 PM
"but he is mediocre as a performer"
man, i've nothing more to say... u r repeating the same thing without specifying the nuances... its showing ur ignorancy... majority in this forum may not be Aamir fans, but none will support ur kiddish comments...
Re: Re: aamir a poor producer?
by varun on Oct 15, 2008 06:14 PM
@rahul, aamir has got a national award for raakh a film released in 1989, he got the award for the best new talent. He was also considered for the award in 1999 for sarfarosh and in 2001 for lagaan, i don't think srk has come even close to getting a national award. I don't remember any of his films winning national awards that is why he gets frustrated and pays for filmfare and other stuff.
Re: Re: Re: Re: aamir a poor producer?
by varun on Oct 15, 2008 06:22 PM
@rahul who is making own perceptions, you are saying lagaan was crap, and aamir doen't know how to act and stuff like that, you are trying to prove that srk is better by abusing all others who say aamir is better. Your way of healthy discussion is as childish as srk's movies.
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by rahul bose on Oct 15, 2008 06:35 PM
@varun
i never argued that SRK is a better actor than Aamir... I never compared him with Aamir... it's u guys who are comparing Aamir with SRK...
it's u guys who are bashing SRK... I am just defending and proving u wrong... that too with proof...
i never said Lagaan was crap... but it was not an Oscar material also... i also never said aamir doesnt know how to act... I just told u that Aamir's claim of great acting prowess is just a bubble...
what proof do u guys have that SRK buys award? what proof do u guys have that SRK is a gay?
Your way of healthy discussion is driven by self-righteousness as Aamir's statements...
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by geby jacob on Oct 17, 2008 03:18 AM
rahul.. beta do u know why swades was made with SRK in the first place.. Thr was news making the rounds that Lagaan became a hit coz of Aamir.. The director denied it and went about to make a dud movie with an even bigger dud actor n turned a good concept into trash.. Thr u go.. SRK actually expected Swades to do wat Lagaan did for Aamir.. But it became a damp squib.. Rahul, I guess u watch SRK movies for SRK itself.. u guys are real fanatics..I'm sure u know the name of his children, the number and model of his cars.. his underwear brand and so on.. Dude, I think valu has to placed for the movie.. at the end of the daym how has the movie connected with u.. u go gaga by seeing SRK scratch his arm pits or when he stammers to a woman.. thats not acting man..
Re: Re: aamir a poor producer?
by varun on Oct 15, 2008 07:07 PM
Frankly I think too many Indians give too much credit to Shahrukh Khan where there are other greats out there. He has no chance of overshadowing Aamir, not in this life-time. Aamir plans things out and work hard, Shahrukh doesn’t….he’s all for romance and comedy and all over television, psychologically people get fond of the people they see as much as they have seen Shahrukh, and that is just the sad truth.
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by geby jacob on Oct 15, 2008 04:33 PM
u're right rahul.. All SRK can do is make s**t look good.. His expressions are alwaysthe same.. he stammers his way thru dialogues.. n come on man, thr is absolutely no variety.. One sensible movie by SRK is Swades n that too coz of the director.. handling subjects like TZP, DCH, Lagaan, Rangeela requires you to get into the skin of the character.. n SRK can only be a superhuman lover.. It psyches me out to see him cry with his eyes quivering and cheeks bloated out.. Its all histrionics.. whereas Aamir khan delivers just the right bit of expressions to pinch ur heart.. To understand the spontaneous nature of Aamir's acting skills, check out the new Coke ad whr he poses as a man and a lady.. u'll know what I mean !
Re: aamir a poor producer?
by Rahul on Oct 15, 2008 05:09 PM
u r rite...mr.bose..get ur basics right...aamir is far far better than srk..n billo barber is a sureshot flop movie...so zyada mat fudko
