I absolutely loved it. Dev's performance was great. He deserves some props if not an Oscar, when compared to others nominated. Despite the preceeding political comments the movie is a sleeping sucess. Where can I get a full version of the ending dance & song sequence? JJ-Minnesota
Ben has also gujarati roots just like Dev Patel. This Slumdog millionaire looks like a huge marketing venture. Who is marketing it? A movie has to grow and take time to win awards. This film's progress looks like instant coffee or instant kitchdi.
Re: Did Ben Kingsley also won any Oscars?
by gandharva pednekar on Dec 22, 2008 02:45 PM
Dear K, Its looks like a good movie with so many reviews and a magnificient trailer. It is still not leaked on DVD's which is another reason for believing it is well guarded and therefore very good. Ben won for Gandhi. Lets b proud with the fact that the movie has its roots in India and several actors and technicians or indian origin have worked to make it best . Lets see the movie and make it a big success
Re: Did Ben Kingsley also won any Oscars?
by calisurf on Dec 24, 2008 07:48 AM
Sometimes these movies ar directly submitted by the direcotr nd producers to film festivals.
Then it releases, so slumdog has already won awards since they submitted their movies to film festivals.
Evn after release, the movie carries the baggage of its previous achievemnts nd is alrdy a sure winner evrywer it goes.
Slumdog had a limited release on nov.12 in the u.s, bt featured on film festivals before the release date itself wher it won awards.
Re: whats this about learning how people in bombay walk???????
by Guest on Jan 22, 2009 09:39 PM
That is so not true. Bombay guys have a slouch that is not present everywhere. Also, Bombay guys hold each other's hands and put their arms on each other's shoulders. Visit NYC, thats only seen in the vilage or chelsea! Have you traveled???
Why is it that the only movies based on India that do well in the West are the ones that show India in a terrible light. Salaam Bombay, Monsoon Wedding, Water, all Satyajit Ray movies etc. This Slumdog Millionaire again shows the shitty conditions in India and makes overarching statements like all of India's development is done by Underworld Dons. The West of course loves these movies. It helps them feel good about themselves. In Monsoon Wedding Indian families are shown and child abusers and West loved it.
So its no wonder that this movie will get all kinds of nominations etc. Let's make a good positive movie about India that is also a good movie and let's see if the West appreciates that.
Re: Shitty India??
by ami on Jan 22, 2009 09:41 PM
Relax, even movies about racial prejudice, violence, hollocaust, these are the movies that move people. So what if in a land of a billion people, things arent perfect. Sharing our imperfections are nothing to hide...it makes it real and may help those people in these situations by recognizing that they have it tough...no one is singling India out. Rejoice in recognition of all that is good and bad!!
Re: Shitty India??
by ramen das on Dec 22, 2008 04:49 AM
yes...this is the Indian Stereotype in the West...it'll take time & effort to change that...we can take a cue from the chinese...they have taken huge strides in the western market after crouching tiger...
u must also agree that most of mainstream bollywood movies are so pathetic that u can't expect any nominations...
Re: Re: Shitty India??
by calisurf on Dec 22, 2008 09:01 AM
I don't think thers any sterotypes as its the indian directors who portrayed culture n way of life in their movies. Those directors cud hav very well portryd the middle class or developmntal part of india, bt they choose to concentrate on the poor class.
Its jst tht the movies ar so well made as far as the topics ar concernd in each of those movies tht rajesh mentioned.
Bt evn rang de ws liked very much nd ws nominated for BAFTA's in the final list. Now hearin of jodha akbar bein received very well. These ar all diffrnt genres bt its the directors approach jst like any othr.
Thers also sterotypes in amercian movies too, they always like the intense dramatic movies tht showcases violence, polictics, diseased basd movies, historical, homosexuality nd basically not a "feel good movie". Seldom they like the romantic nd comedy movies bt they too have to be so dramatic in evrythin.
He has alrdy won many awards for his performances already as a promisin actor, nd tht itself is a grt achievemnt for his future. Being nominated amongst huge talented actors is also a step higher, it doesn't matter if he wins or not. Oscars award characters so they look for a solid character enhanced by an actor.
So the characters besides dev's character is strong nd written excellently for each of those actors, bt bein nominated at a young age as he is, is a great accomplishment nd will bring him more films. Now thts the best part, winning the award is only a piece of cake.
Otherwise heath ledger would have known his tht he has a great future in acting since he has acted w/the best directors nd actors arnd him.
He did his best but he looked much out of place. A boy that grew up in the slums of Mumbai and who serves coffee in call centres will not have a British accent. The man cast as his brother (Salim?) looked much more the part. Dev Patel came across exactly as what he is in real life: a British-born Indian guy (no offence to NRIs). So not award deserving in my opinion.
Re: x
by vaibhav somani on Dec 21, 2008 11:32 AM
thats true.... his mannerisms were not at all that of a slum boy.... I dont know what was great about his acting to be nominated in first place
Arthur J Pais forgot to put that Heath Ledger won most of the awards in supporting actor category, so dev's performance was not better than one of the all time great performance given by heath ledger, Dev may win a nomination, but everyone is sure that heath will win.Even the americn media is also highlighting this fact everywhere.
Then why this un-necessory hype?Article itself was really irrevelant, see 'slumdog' has a strong chance for winning an oscar for best picture, not for dev...that's the plain truth.
Re: Un-necessary hype!
by Bhavdeep Chadha on Dec 19, 2008 11:27 PM
I don't understand when will India get rid of Indians like you! You guys can never appreciate a performer for his talent and instead like to kiss feet of wooden actors called stars. I don't want to name any but there are many in the said list.
Agreed that Late Heath Ledger will, in all probability, be awarded for his fantastic work in The Dark Knight; but can we not just appreciate this huge achievement.
I remember when the Globes nominations were announced, not a single India media news channel carried the achievement of Rahman Sir. But all we care is about 'we want oscar!!', why don't Hollywood recognise Indian Film Industry??' we are better than Oscar!!'
And this will continue till we have citizens like you!!
Can not appreciate a thought of the writer, a thought which is acknowledged by Global Mainstream Cinema - International Cinema.
Re: Re: Un-necessary hype!
by cindy on Dec 20, 2008 05:54 AM
Oscars award characters so they look for a solid character enhanced by an actor.
So the characters besides dev's character is strong nd written excellently for each of those actors, bt bein nominated at a young age as he is, is a great accomplishment nd will bring him more films. Now thts the best part, winning the award is only a piece of cake.
Re: Re: Un-necessary hype!
by calisurf on Dec 22, 2008 09:06 AM
Evn dev hs been very appreciated by the british film awards in the best "british" actor nd young performer. Its an irony whtr dev will get an award in india as slumdog is goin to releasd on january ovr there.
Re: Re: Un-necessary hype!
by aravind s on Dec 20, 2008 03:20 PM
I think you guys got it wrong, I'll explain
Mainly slumdog has a strong chance for winning in the following categories 1)best film 2)best director 3)Best Adapted ScreenPlay 4)Best Original Score 5)Best Composer 6)Best Cinematography 7)Best Editing
In all the above categories slumdog already won several critical and other nods, so we have a strong change in the above mentioned categories,that's mainly because the competition is relatively less in those categories(that's becuase slumdog is outstanding in those categories)
But the weakest chance is for dev patel, that's not because his acting was bad, that's because the heath ledger is already a tower in that category,nothing much can be done on that.
So I felt it was un-necassary to hype dev, hype the other categories, that makes better sense.Sure a nomination is a great acheivement, but when it is most sure that he is unlikely to win, why we should pin our hopes in that category.
Re: Re: Re: Un-necessary hype!
by Bhavdeep Chadha on Dec 20, 2008 05:18 PM
Arvind we are not lobbying for Dev to win the awards. The title of the artcile is 'Dev patel competes with oscar Winners' and the author also talks about the achievement that is is.
Being recognised by critics is a fabulous thing, but being recognised by your fellow acting guild members is not a mean thing.
What this nomination signifies is that Dev has got a wide acclaim and he can translate his talent into a wonderful career ahead, like all past nominees (and not just winners) have done. The nomination itself provides a huge visible for the nominee in the cinema, and going by the Talent which Dev showed in Slumdog Millionaire, he can achieve great heights in varied films.
If you read my ealrier response, I very clearly mentioned that Late Heith Ledger will be a sreshot winner, and deservingly so, but that does not mean we don't celebrate the achievement in acting by fellow nominees.
I never give a film a miss, just because its nominee has the grim chance of winning in SAG, GLOBES or OSCARS.
The thread you started tends to portray a disinterest in the other nominees, just because one nominee is a highest likelihood at receiving the award.
We are not talking about Dev's chances at winning but just appreciating his achievement at such a prestigious stage/platform.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Un-necessary hype!
by aravind s on Dec 20, 2008 07:01 PM
whatever, "Dev Patel competes with Oscar winners" is the article title, but if u check the heading on the rediff home page, movie tab, you will see that the heading is "osacr For Dev Patel?", that was clearly misleading, that suggests that he is a sure shot winner, that is not the existing scenario, I felt like the author overlooked that fact.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Un-necessary hype!
by AalbertPhoenix on Dec 21, 2008 04:54 PM
You missed the question mark .... The author has asked a question as to whether " Dev an Oscar Winner ? " and not issued a statement ....Regards Albert
Re: Re: Re: Re: Un-necessary hype!
by calisurf on Dec 22, 2008 09:19 AM
Calm down man, evn jerry sienfield mentiond at the oscars tht being nominated doesn't mean tht the actor is the best b.c obviously the actor tht wins is known as the Best Actor.
Sadly all these awards have no concerns in the minds of non movie fans in america which is huge.
If ABC shows oscars in early feb nd the superbowl is shown arnd the same day, thn the oscar ratings will be the lowest nd no one wud care. Only frm 2004 thy movd the awards to feb since in the past thy wer held in late march, the march madness basketball competition t.v ratings wer higher.
Re: Winner! No way!!! Nominations would also surprise me!
by Ganesh Kumar on Dec 19, 2008 11:23 PM
more than America, India (within themsleves) shows racisum.... and dude if thats the case then why here its so much population...
Re: Re: Winner! No way!!! Nominations would also surprise me!
by Bhavdeep Chadha on Dec 19, 2008 11:37 PM
I completely agree. india is a racist nation and it makes me feel ashamed because I am an Indian and proud to be born in this country (regardless of its negative elemts, which are huge).
Indians do all the wrong and racist stuff and term it as Religious.
And the fact that Indians are the highest consumer of fairness products in this world.
Re: Winner! No way!!! Nominations would also surprise me!
by Max on Dec 19, 2008 09:19 PM
oh yeah??? if they are so "racist", how come they voted Obama? Better stick with your problems in India than talk aout the US
Re: Winner! No way!!! Nominations would also surprise me!
by rt on Dec 19, 2008 11:02 PM
jimmies of the world, stop playing the victim game. that's what's ruined half the world. it's pathetic way to live. stop cribbing.
Re: Re: Winner! No way!!! Nominations would also surprise me!
by Bhavdeep Chadha on Dec 19, 2008 11:30 PM
I believe that the Academy has grown a lot and is now recognising (for the past 6-7 years at least) the world cinema at par with Hollywood.
The best talent is recognised always, and Academy has prooved it again and again by giving honours to performances in other languages also, in the English dominated categories of mainstream cinema. A case in point last year's best Actor (Female) - Marian Cotilard for french Film 'La Vie En Rose'.
Its disgusting and shameful thinking of people like Jimmie who will never let world unite as a place to appreciate World Art.
Re: supporting actor?
by Bhavdeep Chadha on Dec 19, 2008 11:35 PM
Ramen - I thing I appreciate about Foreign Award nominations (and something which Indian Awards must follow) is that 'it is not necessary that there will always be a lead actor in a film?'
Strange it may sound but it is so true. So many times, it is not just one character on whom the film is based, even if the film is essentially his/her story.
And that exactly is Slumdog Millionaire. That is why films like these also get nominations in 'best ensemble', a category I have wrote Filmfare umteenth times to include.
But Indian awards are all rigged - they are either owned by some media giant or by some gossip churning magazines, who have their own favourites and choices and hate list.
And what is the credibility of an Awards whose host is also a nominee in its popular category??
Re: Re: supporting actor?
by calisurf on Dec 22, 2008 09:25 AM
In filmfare magazine which organizes the award, people accross india votes for the artists aftr the critics make their choices for the final nomination list.
Most of the time people only know those commercial movies so its easy to get votes since they know abt thm. Movies tht only rakes in money whtrh decent or hit is bein included in nominee list, tht is major reason for critics nd thy include a separate award for critically good films.
