hi everyone, goal is a good movie. just dont confuse it with chak de or lagaan. apart from football it does deal with issues like racism, how important is team - spirit for any game. whatever said and done, john has put in lot of hardwork to look like a professional footballer and he does! just go n watch the movie without thinking about this review.
Have you ever wondered whenever Raja sen writes writes a bad review, the message board is filled with things like:
1. This guy suck! I am going to watch the movie. 2. Since rediff rating by " raja sen " is 1 star i am going to watch the movie. 3. This guy doesn't know a thing criticism of a movie. I am going to watch the movie.
See a pattern?
Well i saw it. And was just wondering whether this idiot from rediff is using reverse psychology on us?
May be yes. May be no.
In any case since this guy never follows a pattern on writing a review and is Optimistically Pessimist about bollywood. I choose to ignore the review by him, but yes, its a fun to read the comment below the review.
Since the review the by raja sen is bad/super bad, i am going to watch the film.
RE:Its Reverse Psychology guys.
by Kayenn May on Nov 26, 2007 10:55 AM
Dear Vipin,
Here I beg to differ with you on your views about Raja Sen's credibility as a Film Critic. I saw both the recent releases that he had thrashed on this page b4 this one and believe me I am feeling like tearing my hair-apart for having taken a contrarian call. bcoz including this bull-shit of a GOAL which I unfortunately, saw last night heeding Raja the SENsible would have saved me some vital bucks for invetments into a mid-cap. He has been spot on with SO-worry-a and Dhan Dhana Dhan Jhol. heed my advice do not buck the trend lest you wish to part away with your hard earned cash
RE:RE:Its Reverse Psychology guys.
by vipin kumar on Nov 26, 2007 11:36 AM
And Mr. Sen if you are reading this, please try to reason out your "findings" in more logical manner and please try to give some positives of a movie. A movie is after all a dream painted by the director. It might be true that you didn't like the painting at all, but for god sake let us know which colour of the painting did you like and why?
RE:Its Reverse Psychology guys.
by vipin kumar on Nov 26, 2007 11:33 AM
Dear May,
They say the read the first and the last paragraph of any literary thing to know what the writer wants to say. Well you should read mine carefully if you wish to understand what i wanted to say. I said:
In any case since this guy never follows a pattern on writing a review and is Optimistically Pessimist about bollywood.
This is the crux. Mr. Sen has never reviewed a movie like a true critic. No doubt he has all the rights as a critic to bash the "bad" points of the movie. But thats the thing.
He always bashes.
I dont remember reading a review where he distinctly wrote that " watch this part of the film carefully you will never forget the message/ cinematographic beauty/ camera angle of the scene for your whole life"
In other words i have never read any " Positives of the movie" by this guy. Thats why i wrote, he is Optimistically Pessimist about Bollywood.
What could have been a truly great GOAL! was rendered off side by an inept and silly director.
This movie had all the ingredients to be an all time classic. It even had the oppurtunity to showcase for the first time, an international breed of patriotism and integration which could have been a pathbreaking achievement in instelf.
Well what could have been 5 stars all the way is just an ordinary b-grade flick with no deserving stars.
What could have been a truly great movie was rendered off side by an inept and silly director.
This movie had all the ingredients to be an all time classic. It even had the oppurtunity to showcase for the first time, an international breed of patriotism and integration which could have been a pathbreaking achievement in instelf.
Well what could have been 5 stars all the way is just an ordinary b-grade flick with no deserving stars.
I have stopped fallowing rediff reviews. So i checked indiafm review. Now thatz called a review, its wroth reading indiafm, than this crap. I went and saw GOAL, first half do seems bit boring. But second half covers it all. Then movie is work of *** starts. Go watch it
RE:hi
by Yo Ma on Nov 26, 2007 09:44 AM
Why do you want to know ? Do people call you Gay too ? and you are in search of ways to prove to them that you are not ?
RE:hi
by manoj on Nov 26, 2007 09:50 AM
nothing...but who cares in rediff, anyone can talk on anything, anywhere, anytime, right? anyhting worng in waht i said? any suggestions?
I am giving a suggestion to REDIFF....just put the name of the movie and rating as ONE start for all the future movies not staring SRK in it.. By doing so you can help Raja from saving his time for writing reviews.
Think of sports-based films made in India and visuals of LAGAAN and CHAK DE INDIA flash across your mind. Will DHAN DHANA DHAN GOAL fall in the same league as these immensely popular flicks, is one vital question that crosses your mind as the reels of UTV's new sport-based film [their second this year, after HATTRICK] DHAN DHANA DHAN GOAL are about to unfold.
GOAL is a simple story that packs not just the sport, but also dabbles with issues like racism and fanaticism associated with this sport. Issues that Westerners can relate to more than Indians, especially racial discrimination.
As a film, GOAL has its share of highs and lows. If the first hour is strictly okay, the pendulum swings in its favour in the second hour -- in the last 20 minutes, to be precise. The sport succeeds in arousing patriotic feelings, besides involving the viewer in the fight-to-finish finale.
Conversely, there are times when you feel that the film falls back on the predictable, tried-n-tested mundane stuff. And packs in something ['Billo', the song] that's just not in sync with the mood of the film.
To sum up, GOAL is a simple story, well told. Notwithstanding the hiccups, this film hits a goal, courtesy its brilliantly executed finale.
Southall United Football Club is facing its deepest crisis ever. Bankrupt, with no stars, no coach, no sponsors, no takers, no spectators and most importantly, no owner. After the City Council sends an eviction notice, it's the last chance to save the ground,
RE:A True Review
by Yo Ma on Nov 26, 2007 09:13 AM
the club and their honour. Shaan [Arshad Warsi] takes up the challenge to save the club from extinction. After a disesteemed ex-player, Tony Singh [Boman Irani], joins them as the coach, Shaan and he begin work to gather the worn out team.
Sunny's [John Abraham] dreams to play for England crashes after his club does not select him. The reason is apparently not his game, but the colour of his skin. Sunny and Shaan never see eye to eye. Adding to their personal chaos is Shaan's cousin sister Rumana [Bipasha Basu], who is in love with Sunny.
Tony manages to convince Sunny to play for Southall United. It takes a while before Shaan and the team warms up to Sunny. With Sunny joining Southall United, the team gradually starts climbing the points tally. The City Council is worried. Johny Bakshi [Dalip Tahil], a commentator and a frontman of the Council, plans to lure Sunny away from Southall United.
Director Vivek Agnihotri combines style and substance in his second outing GOAL. Take the sequence at the very start, when an English woman and her frontman [Dalip Tahil] reveal their plans of coming up with a shopping complex on the ground. The director opens the cards at the very outset. But the narrative dips, rises, hits a low and ascends unfailingly till the first hour ends. The sequence prior to the intermission -- at the Manchester United Stadium -- leaves you awe-struck and makes you look forward to a powerful second hour.
Fortunately, the drama only gets exciting in the po
RE:RE:A True Review
by Yo Ma on Nov 26, 2007 09:13 AM
st-interval hour. The cold vibes that Arshad and John share as also John's volte-face, when he decides to abandon his club for the riches, give the film that extra dimension, camouflaging the defects that raised their head not too long back. The film dips at times in this hour too, but the journey to the finale is well structured. Yes, John's change of heart is slightly filmy and clichéd, but the climax is astounding. The penultimate 20 minutes in the stadium are awe-inspiring and that's what you carry back home.
Vivek Agnihotri knows what he's talking and though you know that he got swayed by technique in his very first film CHOCOLATE, in GOAL, he never lets technique overpower content. The story is simple, but absorbing and presented stylishly. He's truly evolved into a fine storyteller.
There're just two songs in the narrative -- the anthem 'Dhan Dhana Dhan Goal'/excellent and 'Billo'/well-tuned, but the mujra doesn't go well with the mood of the film. Attar Singh Saini's cinematography is striking. The camera movements -- so difficult in a film like this -- are exemplary.
Both John and Arshad are the 'Men of the Match'. John is a revelation. Wrongly dubbed as a clotheshorse in his earlier films, he hits a goal in GOAL. John lends the right texture to his character. He not only looks right for the part, but also plays the sport like a pro. GOAL should occupy the top slot in his body of work!
Arshad Warsi is superb. An incredibly talented actor whose versatility spe
RE:RE:RE:A True Review
by Yo Ma on Nov 26, 2007 09:14 AM
aks volumes. Cast in a sober, serious role this time, Arshad enacts the part with as much ease as he portrayed Circuit. Bipasha Basu may not have a lengthy role, but she adds zing to the goings-on as and when she appears. Her love story with John is really cute.
Boman Irani is top notch. Note his roar at the intermission point or the uneasiness he displays whenever his team locks horns with the rivals on field. It's a flawless performance. Raj Zutshi is first-rate. Dalip Tahil carries the venomous part well. The actor enacting the role of Arshad's wife does a commendable job.
On the whole, DHAN DHANA DHAN GOAL has an ordinary first hour, but the post-interval portions, especially the exhilarating climax, makes up for everything. At the box-office, the producers [UTV] have already recovered the cost of production from various sales and in-film advertising. The theatrical business will only add to the booty, considering the film has the merits to work with moviegoers. Another factor that goes in its favour -- and it's an important one -- is the fact that the moviegoers haven%u2019t seen a new release post-Diwali. That should reap dhan for DHAN DHANA DHAN GOAL.
I think Raja Sen should learn to watch movies then how to write reviews. U cant write off someone so hard..I hv seen the movie i dont think it's that bad for u to give just one Star. By the way I suggest rediff to hire someone who is a Film institute pass out or a guy who hv some experience in movie industry.. nt jsut a mad guy like Raja Sen
RE:On Raja Sen's Review
by Mandar Patankar on Nov 26, 2007 09:13 AM
Yes, u r right but since its not a SRK movie how Raja can rate the movie with stars more than ONE ?? I am expecting same kind of ratings for future fils AAJA NACHALE, DUS KAHANIYA etc etc...
