RE:To Everyone
by on Apr 11, 2007 08:21 AM
you money crazy and foolish for flashy riches who are just human and make mistake you get life and watch less fantasy movie this brat he married will leave him pretty soon i bet 10000%
When ever personal life of any western celebrity is exposed, so called intellectuals come out with various suggesstions. The point is
1) these are celebrties, they dont represent the general population. So if ur in UK, u will hardly find English girls marrying Indian men, they may marry nigerians but not indians, dont know why ?. Please no comments, i am stating facts!!
2) West has a concept of culture, which is they may have 10 marraiges/ relationships but atleast when it comes to accountability e.g.their bureocrats are 100 times honest than ours.
3) With an exception of few millions in India, i bet the remaining 999 millions will be ready to swap with life in any damm western country.
4) When all is said and done, its their life, they are not asking you, why are u tellying them, what to do...
So dear Indians lets get our economy/ infrastructure on track or else our FAMOUS IT consultants will be in BANGLADESH looking for jobs, and rediff putting the headlines, "Indians dominating Bangladesh IT jobs" !!!
RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by Raj K on Mar 20, 2007 09:31 PM
"Indians dominating Bangladesh IT jobs" !!!
HATS OFF FOR YOU!..
people are not realising the fact.. IT is a good Opportunity.. Well, as we are not using the betterment of our country's various other sectors, well, it is so correct. we need to get job in B'DESH.......
India is doing better in IT only because it is cheap than anywhere esle in the world. once the cost advantage is over.. that is the end of our IT Tooo..
I am sure that our politicians and bureaucrats will create a mess without proper planning..
RE:RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by Ashish Chaskar on Mar 20, 2007 09:09 PM
Partha, dear friend, how are you so "cock" sure abbout Nigerian's "valuable gift" ??? I mean, I sincerely doubt. :-)
Jokes apart, I think Mr. Roger was talking about the same hypocratic behaviour.
RE:RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by Jeevan on Mar 20, 2007 09:10 PM
Das it is not just the reason %u2026 we look for a house wife and they look for a partner !! I agree with Sumit Kumar. When talked about Indian culture first things comes to our mind is strong wedded relation. But the true Indian culture is much more than this like honesty, loyal, good to the co citizen, being a good ruler (best example sri ram). We need to be less selfish. One more observation we do something because others do it but english do it only if they like it.
RE:RE:RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by sankar subbu on Mar 20, 2007 09:56 PM
Dear Jeevan i have one question you have mentioned Sri Ram is a good ruler. What i understand is, Sri Ram left the country and country men just for his fathers words, is this the quality of a good ruler? The basic quality of a good ruler is to save the country and countrymen, am i right? I did not mean to offend you. It just came into my mind.
RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by Anurag Vats on Mar 20, 2007 09:41 PM
As a reply to Sunit's message point no 2. their bureaucrats are 100 times more 'honest' than us because their public is more literate than us. hence, they are forced to be so.Otherwise they are much the same and even worse!. Remember it is race which fooled us looted us and ruled us and today they are richer than us! also they will give the impression of being honest because they are very good at playing with words! English is their language while our politicians speak in our language and we can decipher its true meaning!
RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by rogerbiney on Mar 20, 2007 08:50 PM
Sunit, just one information as your facts are right. English girls marry others and not Indians is because we indians have potrayed ourselves in bad light in many ways. Other nations do not trust indians due to our hypocratic behaviour and thats the truth we cannot digest, anyway truth is always bitter. I have had the opportunity of discussuin the same issue even with the immigration officers of Portuguese consulate and they say Indians only look at their own interest even when it comes to marrying the europeans. Infact the first question asked by any indian is - Will I get a european countries passport. What I mean to say is indians are looking to marry EU nationals only if there is benefit of a passport. So ponder over this issue and let me know if I am wrong
RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by on Apr 11, 2007 08:24 AM
yes indians marry to be married this westerns they marry to make merry they sleep with anyone they find attractive dont you ever dare to compare this goris(prostitutes)with high cultured pious indian
RE:RE:To all the CULTURALLY en lightened
by Injun Abhi on Mar 20, 2007 09:08 PM
Sunit and Rogerbiney, you are both right. Thanks for being so honest, I really liked it.
RE:Hurley always in a Hurry
by on Apr 11, 2007 08:26 AM
hey in hurry she must have for 4 yrs slept with many tom tick and terry finally settled to divorce this fool arun and make merry with the millions afterwards and beware donot favor this sadeli gori
RE:Hurley always in a Hurry
by Neo Prince on Mar 20, 2007 09:33 PM
"Liza Hurley is always in a hurry for marriages.......better she changes her name to Liza Hurry"
Aiyyo Swami...Whats your problem? It's her life, her decision, her wedding, her name? Tumko kya karne ka hai? Now you would decide as to when she should get married???
No body in INDIA wod prefer to see such a wedding match on cover page of any magagine.For abroad its ok..but in INDIA who wod like to see a newly wed couple with bride son...!!!
RE:WHAT a couple
by Raj K on Mar 20, 2007 09:37 PM
What is better in India... 60% people in poverty..kids are dying of malnution.. finance minister is reducing tax for pet food.. so they wed and he got a gift too..
RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Kutta on Mar 20, 2007 09:45 PM
Some idiots think that "Indian culture" is their PRIVATE PROPERTY and want to impose their sadistic version of culture on EVERYONE ELSE and speak for 1100 million Indians !
This is like few idiots wants India to stay in 12th century AD when we all youngsters want to move ahead.
RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 10:12 PM
I am no cultural dictator, nor did I pronounce any cultural statements. You on the other hand seem to believe being young is exemplified in masculinity and machoism. It takes 'BALLS' (in ypur language) to accept disagreement. Do you have it in you to disagree without considering disagreement as dictatorship? Say what you want, I say what I want. I dont call you names, you do....what does that make you?
RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 10:19 PM
Roger biney, dont be confused, I am not looking for a judgement of my education from you based on messages nor am I judging you on your messages. I am saying your statement about the number of people who are uneducated in India being small in India is wrong. So is the statement that people like Nisar and Bakshi are responsible for visa problems. My education taught me to express myself without looking down on others. You might be smart and looking for greener pastures, dont think Bakshi and Nisar are idiots from one line that they typed. I drew flak from those I disgreed with. I rile people you disagree with. I am not ridiculing you. Calm down and think about how many uneducated people we have and why the US makes visas difficult for 'aliens'. Do you really think because of the viewpoints of people like Nisar or Bakshi. Think again
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by rogerbiney on Mar 20, 2007 10:51 PM
Homo, its not about the ridicule or the dig I am having at you, its more surprising to me that inspite of being in US you have not realised why the west treats us hat way. Do you know why africans and some asians are given preference over us indians and thats why I still say it is because of people like bakshi & nissar who unnecessarily ridicule them they block all our avenues. For your information I have travelled in South East Asia and 3 european countries and it may surprise you that such views expressed by our petty people are not taken kindly and thast why I feel we indians are a hypocrate lot. As for judgement do not live in isolation, learn to accept counter views as well but within logic. What I mean to say is there was no need for anyone to have a dig at outsiders when the topic was about a marriage
RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Kutta on Mar 20, 2007 10:23 PM
Living in United States and you cant get the language ?
Let me give meaning of balls in this context
BALLS applied here means GUTS OR COURAGE, got it ? Ability to stand proud on your action with firmness or having some spine.
Example: USA is the only western country left with balls. Europeans despite having formidable military power could not solve Kosovo and Bosnia wars for 10 years, finally Yanks came in and sorted out the mess. Hope u got it (the contextual meaning of balls )!
Old british victorian english is NOT used in real life.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 10:30 PM
I get the language, tis you who doesnt get sarcasm. I was talking about the etymology which indicates that by origin it is a sexist word and therefore even in The UNited States of America is a politically incorrect word for a progressive young man like you to use. This is Indian English, I learnt it India, I use it everyday, I am real and my life is real too. I know the meaning of BALLS in your context and I know the meaning of brainwash. BALLS is not what the US did in Kosovo and BRAINWASH is what the US did to you.
RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 10:06 PM
And some people believe anyone who does not believe in flamboyance is old, idiotic, sadistic and rooted in the past. My first tip for you to 'modernize'- be civil. For a smart young man like you, being abusive is not modern. I havent said a thing against anybody getting married any number of times to anyone, with or without children. I support it. I am saying dont look down upon others who differ, thats not the way to change them. By the way, I am young too, I live in the United States, I am not selfish. I am not pro sati or child marriage or dowry. I am against intellectual elitism. Lets talk as equals and progress. It is not only youngsters who want to move ahead. Dont be brash, Everyone deserves a chance to express themselves without being called names. WOuld you do this if you were writing to Westerners in the US? Move ahead, take others along with you. DO you want to move ahead alone?
RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 10:33 PM
Listen, the working reasoning here is that Bakshi and Nisar have gotten it wrong. But is this the way to reply to them? Who says they are right??? Did I? And if Bakshi said something stupid why does that make me a dictator? You jump to conclusions
RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 10:43 PM
Listen, this is stupid. You seem to believe you know all..........we shouldn't junk up this place. Write to me if you want know more. ....here is an email id. sapiens.indian@gmail.com
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 11:05 PM
Similarly there is no need to take a dig at other Indians Mr. Biney, travelled or not, I havent been treated below par by anyone in the World. When people in the West ridicule Indians and they get it back from me. Everyone in the world comes from cultures that do not understand other cultures well. What Bakshi said is wrong but that is not why anybody is given preference over us. Infact we often give preference to others over Indians. The West treats any poor country as illiterate etc etc. You seem to look down upon Indians too. The way to improve the image of India is by being an example not by blaming it others and saying I am an execption. Listen you thing Indians are hypocrites because you know them. You dont know what the chinese, nigerians, or brazilians are thinking or saying. You dont even know what the american is thinking when he is being polite to you. ridicule me if you want, India is a young nation, 60 years is not a long time, we cant change it by blaming its people. We can only change it by identifying with it and changing it from within. Not talking like outsiders on a high moral pedestal.
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by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 11:13 PM
I was always in my senses. I dont have to prove my broad mindedness by calling people idiots or 5 year old morons. You appreciated kutta's views because he agreed. you were wrong when u thought the number of illiterate people is small. You are wrong when you think your oppurtunities are reduced because you are Indian and because other Indians are narrow minded. You are wrong whether you like it or not. Bakshi is wrong, in my opinion and so are you. when ill you come back to your senses? Is Kutta's language appropriate? You are the hypocrite who wants the advantages of being Indian but none of the negatives.
RE:WHAT a couple
by on Mar 20, 2007 07:16 PM
so what you are saying is that women should not get a second chance? its people like you who are the cause of suffering women in India. Why do you care if the couple are happy with each other - so what if she already has a son!! And don't generalize about India. Not everyone is so narrow minded.
RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by arbitary on Mar 20, 2007 09:18 PM
For people who are tom-toming about Indian culture, please grow up. How come none of you idiots have asked about the child's father? Did Liz produce the kid out of a tree? How about criticizing him for not being around?
Liz had the son with a man called Steven Bing. He refused to accept the child as his own and asked her to prove it. DNA tests proved that he was the father. He then came back begging to be her husband and the child's father but she refused. I think we should all appreciate her dignity and the fact that she chose to bring up her kid alone.
RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Kutta on Mar 20, 2007 09:43 PM
Surbhi if you have a husband or boyfriend and you have a kid together, and for some reason he dumps you, and you find a new kind man but he asks you to dump ur child .......what will you do ?
RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by rogerbiney on Mar 20, 2007 08:53 PM
correctly said 'on' and 'kutta', these hypocrites like bakshi & nisar will never improve. its is because of these small number of uneducated people we indians are seen as selfish and face diffficulties in getting job visas in the west
RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 09:17 PM
By the way.....people who bought and sold slaves are not selfish? The problem is not with them, you seem to give them too much credit. The white man is no benevolent philanthrope. He is just a plundering vandal who is disguising his daily business as charitable atonement for his sins.
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by Kutta on Mar 20, 2007 10:07 PM
It takes BALLS to show that you are marrying a woman with her child and that too in INDIA and to proudly display as part of marriage album.
ARUN shows he has BALLS by showing that "yes, this child is part of us and I am not going to be ashamed of it" as you can see in this lovely picture of a beautiful family.
It is nothing to do with their being a 'celeb' I admire them as a fellow human unlike you who is more anti humanity and some kind of sadistic "cultural dictator".
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 09:53 PM
Relax.......no one is saying it didnt. I am saying the West is not holy. I am referring to Dear Roger balming his visa on Indian selfishness and on people like Bakshi or Nisar. It is this kind of intolerance and impatience in replies that I am talking about. Dont jump to conclusions about people. Monkey or Old Hag, I am content with myself, care nothing about Liz or Arun who you are enamoured by. I dont see why you believe I suugest anyone should dump their child. I just said keep him out of front pages at this age. I dont bow to people without knowing their intentions.People like you believe it is a sacrifice to marry a divorcee or single mother and claim to be open-minded. It is no sacrifice, large heartedness or any such high notion. Grow up, it is not the child's fault neither is it Arun Nayyar's magnanimity. Hats off to people with role models like your Arun Nayyar. Scroll up read properly, think and then shoot. Are the number of illiterate small in India? Are any of the people above responsible for visa difficulties? We had slaves too, but we are no more selfish than the Westerners.
RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by rogerbiney on Mar 20, 2007 09:44 PM
Homo, ignorance seems to be your cup of tea, learn to grow up and accept others and their culture, dont live in the past, if you live in the past you will never realise your future dream, and mind you I am also an indian to express my views but unlike you i have an open mind and look at things in a broad perspective. Are you trying to tell me we have limited resources, I think you lack insight to know that India has huge resources but these are plundered and looted by people maybe like you, er i mean politicians and hypocrites who dont want others to grow, and if one has to grow one will definately look for greener pastures anywhere in the world but people like you and the others are impediments to our progress because you criticise the west or other nations thereby forcing them to block avenues to indians
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by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 09:57 PM
Grow my dear, but dont blame your lack of growth on others. I want you to grow, anywhere in the World you want. Look for greener pastures but why am I an impediment to your progress. Dont be so frustrated in life. Grow. I am not criticizing the west for the sake of it, I am defending my pasture. No one will block avenues for you because of me. Your progress is in your hands, not mine.
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by rogerbiney on Mar 20, 2007 10:05 PM
Homo, you may be literate but from your messages I really find you uneducated. Literacy is definately growing in Indian but even from these literate people I dont know how many are educated or educated as can be seen from your example, thats why I think u received flaks from others as well
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by Homo sapiens sapiens on Mar 20, 2007 09:11 PM
Mr Roger .... what you just said smacks of ignorance. The number of uneducated people in India is not small. We are selfish, we will be because we millions compete for limited resources- it is survival. I am not ashamed of my uneducated brethren like you are. We are a young country, we will make it in time. Unlike the west that you are clamouring for, we didnt colonize and loot other countries to build our future. In general we dont have a past to be ashamed of. Stop blaming your visa difficulties on 'Bakshi' or 'Nisar'. If you are educated, learn to disagree in a civil manner, without looking down upon others who differ. And while at it, get a sense of humour - Celebrities feed of exposure, they better be ready to take the flak - from the literate, illiterate, the hypocrite and the broad minded. Women or Men, everyone should get any number of chances. Likewise they should be accountable for the outcomes - a boy who is splashed on the cover of a tabloid which dissects the marriage of his parents. Literacy has nothing to do with protecting the privacy of your kin - Oh I forgot, celebrities and privacy? What am I saying????
RE:RE:WHAT a couple
by Praveen PG on Mar 21, 2007 12:03 AM
Nice one! the people who condemn this are from the age when a woman who is a divorcee or widow was condemned to a life worse that of a criminal.
