the older generation men who have contributed much,much now get less importance in media. on tv channels also, we do not get chance to see older films much. radio stations (specially mirchi and likewise fm radios) are playing only disco and dhoomdhadaka songs. According to them older songs means songs from 1995 to 2003. So, media should also write about older generation.
i think l-p, laxmikant pyarelal were great music director. they worked from parasmani to khalnayak...they gave melodious songs. with mohammad rafi, kishore kumar, mukesh lata mangeshkar, asha bhosle, kavita krishnamurthy, alka yagnik, anuradha paudwal, manna dey, udit narayan, vinod rathod, amit kumar, mohammad aziz, shabbir kumar, manhar udhas, sukhvindar singh, they worked best. the producers used to repeat them and they proved themselves more than once. they worked with raj khosla, j.p.dutta, subhash ghai, raj kapoor, manmohan desai, l.v.prasad, rajkumar kohli, boney kapoor, yash chopra, manoj kumar...almost each and everyone of who is who of bollywood. almost every star has sung compositions of their. be it amitabh bachchan (yes l.p. has played vital role in big b's career through music),jitendra, mithun chakraborty, shashi kapoor, anil kapoor,jackie shroff, sanjay dutt, vivek mushran, meenakshi sheshadri, sridevi, madhuri dixit... who can forget the melodious songs of 'parasmani' - woh jab yaad aaye, hansta hua nurani chehra.. who can forget melodious songs of humjoli, farz, jine ki rah, milan, premrog, satyam shivam sundaram, roti kapda aur makan, shor, kranti, ghulami (jihale masti mukun baran jis..sunai deti hai jiski dhadkan..) hero, ram lakhan, meri jung, karma, ek duje ke liye, chaalbaaz, mr. india, tezab and much more. they utilized each instruments its best..be it flute (hear flute in lp music carefully), be it mandonline, be it tabla or dholak, be it banjo (remember banjopiece in film 'karma'?), be it harmonium (aadmi musafir hai aata hai jaata hai). they have delivered all type of songs...be it bhajan (jyot se jyot jagate chalo), be it qawaali (parda hai parda), be it romantic songs (tu mera janu hai), be it nouty/funny songs (kisi ke haath na aayegi ye ladki, hava havai), be it tragic songs (meri kismat main tu nahin shayad, lambi judai)...i think no one can claim to be super than l-p.
About Mr Jay's absurd letter, I would have given it the ignore it deserves - he is known to be anti-LP and pro-everyone else who is compared with them! - but for one point. The degeneration in music was singlehandedly brought about - not by Bappi as Mr Jay says - but by A.R.Rahman. Here's why: He destroyed the importance of melody. He destroyed the importance of lyrics. With his computer-based approach, singers did not have to be in 'sur' - you could use software to correct besurapan. He also did not believe in proper Urdu diction/pronounciation among singers. He recorded songs on tracks and so what we heard of an Alka Yagnik solo, for example, was a mix of 7-10 takes joined up digitally. He gave undue importance to sound rather thamn musical or lyrical quality He shrewdly used media-hype by pretending to be low-profile. He never bothered about timeframe, geographical backdrop of film and accuracy of instruments used. He
RE:LP
by on Jun 01, 2007 11:12 PM
music is not any body's personal forte. if the masses like it its good. whether big "learned musicians' dont like it it makes no diffference. u can criticise anybody u want, but if u could even come close to a.r. rahman's talent u would consider urself lucky. my father worked with laxmikant but i know if he were alive he would love a.r. rahman's creations.
RE:LP
by Abhijeet Sharma on Dec 17, 2007 11:19 PM
you know jay it is better to accept oe "faux pas" but it is only boasful to use a lot of vocabulary and not be able to make a point....you fit the bill
RE:RE:LP
by Abhijeet Sharma on Sep 23, 2007 11:36 PM
Jay - Only to know that your father has worked with Laxmikant does not mean that you are so qualified that you can criticise anyone,Rahman may be a great person and composer but you have no right to criticise LP. If you feel you do, then you need to take your criticism in the same in the same spirit....
RE:LP
by jaywant pandya on Feb 26, 2007 08:41 PM
i agree with you sir. a r raheman repeats tunes most of time and rhytham catches most part of his music. words doesn't get importance.
A gr8 article about a legend. I am very happy that media has given attention to Pyarelalji. I have been a gr8 admirer of there work since long. In my opinion the main element of there music is melody. One can immediatly recognize a tune that it must be of LP. It's a undefinible sweetness in their music which one can always feel. for example you listen to the song 'Sanjh Dhale' from utsav, i have rarely heard this much sweet tune ever....jaise kisi ne zabaan par mishri rakh di ho aur wo dheere dheere pighal rahi ho... Most of LP's compositions are like that only. Some of those are - zihaale maskin, megha re megha re, man kyon bahka re bahka, lambi judaai, nindiya se jaagi bahaar, solah baras ki and list is soooo long. And who can forget the class orchastration of song 'choli ke peechhe'. I think no one has ever made such song which is a perfact blend of melody and gr8 orchastra... the best wishes of all your fans are with you Pyarelalji!!
good work but this particular article in appriciation of this living legend(pyarelal ji) is like dropping a drop of water in the sea, he is too too HUGE to write something on him. i always have admired their work & pancham da's work,"I love you pyare baba & have highest regards for whatever you have taught me"
L-P and Bappi were responsible for the degeneration of film music in the 1980s. We have heard of several attempts by Pyarelal to make a comeback, for the past several years, which haven't met with any success. I think he would do better in not venturing into his recording room again, lest it leads to a painful reminder of the dirge of the 1980s, arguably the nadir of film music.
In any case, Pyarelal cannot compete with the younger brigade, which is talented enough in its own right and has if anything, restored some sanity to film music since those atrocious days, when people used to walk out of the hall the moment any of L-P's songs unfolded on screen.
Pyarelal has no realistic hopes of staging a comeback.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by on Mar 28, 2007 05:05 PM
GOD! I AM SO THRILLED WITH THE FACT THAT L-P ARE COMING BACK, THEY WERE ARE AND WILL ALWAYS B GREAT MUSIC DIRECTORS OR I CAN SIMPLY SAY THE BEST. AND PARDON ME BUT JAY SUBRAMANYUM OR WHOSOEVER IS AN IDIOT N KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT GOOD MUSIC RATHER MUSIC.MAY BE THEY CANT COMPETE WITH THE YOUN STUFF BUT NOT COZ THE MUSIC WON BW GOOD BUT BCOZ CHOICES VE CHANGED BUT I STILL FIRMLY BEILIVE THAT PYARELAL ALONE CAN MATCH WID THE LATEST TRENDS. I AM SO HAPY IAM SO HAPY IAM SO HAPY.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Jay Subramanyam on Jun 21, 2007 02:30 PM
From reading your conclusion where you virtually crawl on your knuckles with - I AM SO HAPY IAM SO HAPY IAM SO HAPY, I can not only decipher your convoluted writing skills but also your mis-credentials as a 'pronounced L-P stooge'.
Try using such derogatory language against me again and I shall make sure you are brought instantly to book for your perfidies. And yes, unlike a coward like you, I am not one to hide my identity.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Abhijeet Sharma on Dec 17, 2007 11:30 PM
Hmmmmmmm i still can't remember the last Rehman hit number....but there are many melodies COMPOSED IN THE eighties by LP that many music lovers can remember.....
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Jay Subramanyam on Dec 22, 2007 03:27 PM
In reference to your two posts, Abhijit, shall I tell you where you foot the bill? Of a person who sees a point only if it runs concurrent with yours. I have more than made the point I intended to - that I despise L-P and their music of the 80s to the highest common denominator - and I don't need a person like you, who himself isn't quite the last word in civil language, questioning my vocabulary [which any day can qualify as better than yours] or quoting instances arbitrarily. I have lived through the dirge of the 80s when L-P ruined film music like nobody's business and this is what I quoted in reference to the main article. And I am not one who is going to take such slur from anybody in this forum especially when my opinion was never directed at any of them in the first place.
It is best that you keep the so-called L-P melodies to yourself or else, write independent posts on them, instead of trying to influence others' opinion.
Re: RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Prakash Joshi on Feb 08, 2015 10:57 PM
Most people think that melody is songs like my name is lakhan,ek do teen or choli ke peeche or jumma chumma dede etc. the most soght after and hit songs of 198o's or 1990's. I am a great fan of LP and belong to the era when they were at peak. I think LP could have done better work had they restricted less number of films. Their contricution is immense. But despite the fact that they composed highest number of films, they are among forgotten heros. Their best era was 1970 and 1980 when they were invicibke and they really gave good music though not classic or immortal like SJ,Naushad,SDB and MM.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Jay Subramanyam on Dec 24, 2007 11:03 AM
I pity you as well and if this thread isn't to be extended any further, it would be better if we were to restrict our opinions to our individual posts in the future.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Abhijeet Sharma on Dec 26, 2007 09:04 PM
Hope you keep your word, cause i am not a regular at these posts but i also cannot stand unreasonable criticism for anyone if i come across one....This should end the chain
RE:RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Jay Subramanyam on Dec 27, 2007 02:03 PM
About your not standing unreasonable criticism from anyone, fine, but let me get this straight. If it is the others you are referring to, then it is none of my concerns. As for me, I am entitled to criticise L-P or anyone else to the extent I want to and like you, I too am not going to take undue criticism of my posts from anybody.
And now since both of us have put our points across, this should bring an end to this discussion round.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Abhijeet Sharma on Dec 27, 2007 06:55 PM
As far as i can read you are the only one doing the rounds of criticism against Pyare jee in all the posts.However, if this criticism satisfies you So be it !
This had better be the last post on this subject...
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Jay Subramanyam on Dec 28, 2007 01:09 PM
Yes, just to inform you again, I shall criticise Laxmi or Pyare or both if I feel like it, even if I am the only one in this forum to do so. It is a question of personal likes and dislikes and by that yardstick, in an open forum, I am entitled to my opinion just as anyone else.
And now, this had better be the last post on this subject, for it is best that we agree to disagree on this issue.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Abhijeet Sharma on Dec 29, 2007 08:24 AM
You can go ahead wth your antics, but be rest assured if i happen to come across any of these "unreasonable hatred filled arrogant" remarks you wil read my remarks again.
Like you said everyone has the right to give ones opinion......
All the best hope i do not read any of your posts after this.....
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Abhijeet Sharma on Dec 31, 2007 08:18 PM
Like i said , hope i do not come across your unreasonable hatred filled arrogant remarksonly then will i revert ......
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Jay Subramanyam on Dec 31, 2007 11:35 AM
What antics are u talking about, Mister? I can take any number of characters like you headlong. And you think I shall be flustered by your empty threats or by your own insinuating remarks? I am not one to be cowed down by a non-entity like you. Remember, I never started this thread in the first place and if I see any of your uncivil language in the future, you too shall get a hammering from me.
RE:Pyarelal's Coemback
by Jay Subramanyam on Jan 01, 2008 03:40 PM
Mr. Abhijit, before u repeatedly stress upon these so-called 'hatred filled arrogant remarks' would you care to check who started this whole thing in the first place? Initially, I just wrote a straightforward mail expressing my views on the subject matter like anyone else. I retaliated only when some members began using offensive language against my post. And I had all the more reason to be infuriated as in my initial post, I never wrote anything that can be called objectionable from an individual's standpoint, to warrant such profanities from some of the members [who incidentally did not even have the courage to reveal their names as you can check].
I too wish you nice year ahead but just leave out words like 'kiddie' which are quite out of context. I just hope that this year begins on a clean slate.
I along with all music fans are eagerly waiting for great legends' comeback & hope that the golden era of music would come soon.This is very pleasing moments for all music lovers.Although Laxmikant is not more but Pyarelal is not less.In electronic(Kanforu) era, we have hungried to hear acoustic instruments in LP's superb symphonic orchestra.We hope that we will find great satisfaction very soon.Becz we are waiting for that music legend who has produced not only single,double or tripple songs are hit like other MDs but their entire album are not hit,super-hit or mega-hit...they are giga-hits.
Again,we wish to legend along with all music lovers that their music be churned & recreate the magic in the similar way that they had weaved for decades.
Certainly L-P were very good music composers in Hindi film industry. Their songs in 60s and 70s were very good, and are enjoyed today. They had originality in composition. Lata Mangeshkar, Rafi, Kishore Kumar gave life to those songs. Amongst the best, Madan Mohan and RD Burman too. I presume, Late Lakshmikant was probably the creative man between two, and we have to see how Pyarelal and regain the old glory in the current trend of copy cat and remix music generation. All the best for him. Kumar Mylavarapu
1. Megha Re Megha Re (Pyasa Sawan) 2. Pyar Teri Pehli ( Ek Duje Ke Liye) 3. Dard E Dil (Karaz) 4. Kate Nahi Kattey yeh Din (Mr. India) 5. Mera to Jo bhi Kadam (Dosti) 6. O Ram Jee ( Ram Lakhan) 7. Sunai deti hai jis (Ghulami) 8. So gaya yeh jahan (Tezaab) 9. Ek Pyar ka Nagma ( Shor) 10. Satyam Shivam Sunram.
Order may not be right but these songs are timeless.
I'm in my early 30s, but I would say that LP was the most versatile MDS in the industry. Along with SJ they would be the most successful music directors in the industry. They straddled generations with ease. They held their own against competion for a long period. The number of hits they churned out is mind boggling. I wish Pyarelalji the best of luck to carry on LP's legacy forward. I'm eagerly looking forward to his music.
