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Bharat Kumar
Great engineering feats, symbol of power
by Bharat Kumar on Sep 19, 2016 09:11 PM  | Hide replies

Great engineerring feats not only technology demonstrators to capture the market for similar projects in the world, but they also raise confidence and pride of the people of the country. The arguments for democracy are practically over in China.

India has the technology and engineering achievements, but not marketed as well even among the youth of the country. The bridges and tunnels in Kashmir, Konkan, etc are no mean feats! But, if you notice, the mission control room of ISRO at Sriharikota shows all grey-haired gentlemen, not many youngsters. Indian engineers and techies are remarkably shy, so most of the limelight is hogged by politicians and managers. We celebrate only those who become CEOs, not individual contributors. Dr Kalam was an exception. Bharat Ratnas to technologists helps.

However, things are changing, if some posts on this board are any indication. We have pride in our efforts, but concerned about the scale and pace.
What is needed is a massive and structured hiring to expand the scale of operations in all sectors, public and private. Tax holidays helped the IT services scale up.

Lastly, we need to compete for projects in places like Africa. We had an open field for decades but didn't leverage that. Never too late

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paul theo
Re: Great engineering feats, symbol of power
by paul theo on Sep 25, 2016 10:49 AM
IN INDIA LOCAL MUNICIPAL COUNCIL, NEARLY 40% OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION IS TO BE GIVEN AS BRIBES TO POLITICIANS AND BABUS, THEN HOW CAN YOU GET GOOD ROADS? AND IF YOU COMPLAIN, YOU WILL LAND UP IN TROUBLE LIKE SHARMA.

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BIKAS BHADRA
Beipanjiang Bridge in China
by BIKAS BHADRA on Sep 19, 2016 06:07 PM

From whatever can be made out from the photographs presented by Rediff alongwith a brief description of the bridge, anyone will appreciate the Chinese engineers and erectors for their high degree of technical knowledge, designing skills, construction planning and fine tuning of the erection of the high altitude bridge in a very difficult terrain.

My hearty congratulations for the Chinese team which was in charge of the design and construction of this magnificent bridge and wish them all success in similar majestic future ventures.

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Tushar Roy
Who will work?
by Tushar Roy on Sep 16, 2016 03:48 PM  | Hide replies

Times of India recently published the statistic with the caption “India is a Country of Shopkeepers”. It suggests that there is dearth of working mentality in our country. Even, our so-called elite Engineer devoted to do e-commerce. Our efficiency flounders hopelessly when confronted with the working culture of other country.

Though I don’t wish to go by caste arguments, but facts suggests that Banias do only trading, Brahmins & other upper caste- service, lower caste expect quotas and the list goes on.

In this circumstances it is very hard for to perform such type of magnificent achievement.



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JIGNESH
Re: Who will work?
by JIGNESH on Sep 16, 2016 06:30 PM
Chinese bridges - look good -- easy for city people to travel -- saves time -- but one has to pay tol tax to travel - to meet the bridge expenses - no doubt the fuel is saved / and money of fuel will go into toll .

also Fuel dependency on other countries will get reduced.

END RESULT -- people got jobs - and people who travel will pay their fuel charges thus saved to those who made the bridge . after say 7 years -- Cost of bridge will be recovered - and all travellers will benefit /

INDIAN SYSTEM -- build roads on the hill with toll / no need for bridges/
Will take more time to travel / more fuel / less capital to build roads compared to bridge // SAFE in case of earthquake . PEOPLE WILL ENJOY travelling on hills -- COUNTRY WILL HAVE TO SHELL OUT MORE FOR FUEL to other countries --

INDIA GETS FUEL FROM OTHER COUNTRIES / AS WELL AS safety will be mantained / in addition to capital saving which will be given as subsidey to the poor for some time / GULF COUNTRIES NEED money to buy other things / as no agricultural land available in exchange of OIL / this is a win win situation for both . SAB KA VIKAS

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JIGNESH
Re: Who will work?
by JIGNESH on Sep 16, 2016 06:31 PM
Chinese bridges - look good -- easy for city people to travel -- saves time -- but one has to pay tol tax to travel - to meet the bridge expenses - no doubt the fuel is saved / and money of fuel will go into toll .

also Fuel dependency on other countries will get reduced.

END RESULT -- people got jobs - and people who travel will pay their fuel charges thus saved to those who made the bridge . after say 7 years -- Cost of bridge will be recovered - and all travellers will benefit /

INDIAN SYSTEM -- build roads on the hill with toll / no need for bridges/
Will take more time to travel / more fuel / less capital to build roads compared to bridge // SAFE in case of earthquake . PEOPLE WILL ENJOY travelling on hills -- COUNTRY WILL HAVE TO SHELL OUT MORE FOR FUEL to other countries --

INDIA GETS FUEL FROM OTHER COUNTRIES / AS WELL AS safety will be mantained / in addition to capital saving which will be given as subsidey to the poor for some time / GULF COUNTRIES NEED money to buy other things / as no agricultural land available in exchange of OIL / this is a win win situation for both . SAB KA VIKAS

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sridhar nanagiri
Not many have heard this story
by sridhar nanagiri on Sep 15, 2016 07:31 PM  | Hide replies

Although there is corruption in china but no mercy if there is lapse. Once a builder took corruption and did passing without checking its durability. One fine day the bridge collapsed and few people died. That corrupt builder and official who passed the file were hanged on the same bridge. China is very harsh on criminals and although there is corruption but accountability is there. India is banana republic in the name of democracy where even tsuanami comes ministers and officials will not be punished..

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nilesh trivedi
Re: Not many have heard this story
by nilesh trivedi on Sep 16, 2016 04:15 PM
In China, One person is corrupt (Incharge). In India the entire chain is corrupt, hence there is no solution

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sanket naik
no land acqusition bill , no fast development
by sanket naik on Sep 15, 2016 06:10 PM  | Hide replies

Somehow , someway the govt has to find a workable solution for land acqusition problem. The delay in projects is awful, one of the reasons is getting land for the projects from farmers. India has to focus on completing projects on time

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zubair shighrekar
Re: no land acqusition bill , no fast development
by zubair shighrekar on Sep 15, 2016 06:22 PM
forget about new land, if the govt develop the existing land we will be in a great position

i have saw a report on TV that 30 percent of corps which is produced in india have no place to store

and i have seen the godown in very very bad conditions so even the corps which stored there will be destroyed

this is just one example, there are many things which can be corrected

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zubair shighrekar
iam sure
by zubair shighrekar on Sep 15, 2016 04:03 PM  | Hide replies

iam sure if gadkariji remains our transportation minister till 2019 we will have one such marvel in india

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Deepak
Re: iam sure
by Deepak on Sep 15, 2016 04:12 PM
i think we already have it.
Have you not seen his picture sitting sideways ?
It will soon replace Mona Lisa's picture in the museums.

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nilesh trivedi
Re: Re: iam sure
by nilesh trivedi on Sep 16, 2016 04:15 PM
hahaha

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NASIM ZAMAN
Re: iam sure
by NASIM ZAMAN on Sep 19, 2016 07:09 PM
Really? It would surely be a miracle to build such a bridge in 3 years. May be it is possible in India, atleast on paper.

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sudhahar  sudhahar
China
by sudhahar sudhahar on Sep 15, 2016 02:37 PM  | Hide replies

Simple rule to become best is to start from ourself. Nothing extrodinary thing is required.deliver your best and be honest

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chanakya maurya
Re: China
by chanakya maurya on Sep 15, 2016 07:15 PM
your simple rule ???

Hey ! what about my commission ?

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ASHOK UPADHYAYA
China
by ASHOK UPADHYAYA on Sep 15, 2016 01:42 PM  | Hide replies

China is developing on ground... No allegations/corruption ...Varieties are there.... We can not bridge a small road within 3 years... Even roads remain damaged for years...

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prashant sinha
Re: China
by prashant sinha on Sep 15, 2016 04:19 PM
China is a communist nation which has singlemindedly demolished its feudal remnants and has achieved a much higher HDI which is typical of all communist nations. India is a democratic country which can barely cover its feudal scars and crony capitalistic reality of the present.A small percentage usurps all the benefits of development, thanks to all pervasive corruption and a stratified socio-economic class structure.Though the beneficiaries of this system who live under an illusion ( that comes when your mind when your mentors live in the West) would day and night chant democracy democracy but the truth is there is no democracy for the majority in the real sense of the word.When you are turned away from hospitals since you have no money or unable to study due to the lack of funds, you can easily gauge what this democracy means to you.Everywhere in the world wherever this Anglo- American notion of democracy rules there is only exploitation and destitution in the world. The propaganda machines of the Western Media like AP, AFP, DPA, Reuters and Kyoto backed up by the military and economic dominance of these countries have relentlessly brainwashed the populace of the Third World.

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Deepak
Re: Re: China
by Deepak on Sep 15, 2016 04:26 PM
when you say 'anglo-american' are you also including countries like SA, Australia, NZ ??
Or are you only having India in that list. There are other countries also in the world atlas.

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Deepak
Re: Re: Re: China
by Deepak on Sep 15, 2016 04:27 PM
The simple truth is that we are a third world country not because we don't have a choice, but we LOVE to be called, which is evident by our actions.


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prashant sinha
Re: Re: Re: China
by prashant sinha on Sep 15, 2016 10:24 PM
Everybody knows who is the real master of this Anglo American flock if you follow international politics closely. The USA and its lackey Britain along with the erstwhile colonizers have dominated all the policy making world bodies and kept their interests at the forefront at the expense of Other countries.But unfortunately for them this dominance is increasingly being challenged by China and Russia.

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nandeesh naveen
Re: Re: Re: Re: China
by nandeesh naveen on Sep 20, 2016 10:15 AM
I agree.. This is the TRUTH... which Needs to be TOM TOMMED across India's Towns & Villages.. and every 10Kms.. of Khangis Feudal B-Santhaan Infected, Enslaved & Messed-up Sleeping People's Sitting Ducks BHARATH..

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Chandan Naha
Re: Re: China
by Chandan Naha on Sep 15, 2016 07:35 PM
I beg to differ with you. China WAS a communist country when they ate and drank Marxism and lived in abject poverty. Now they are under authoritarianism of a junta and follow capitalism without any legal barrier. Do not forget that China has the second largest number of Billionaires in the world. Some communists!

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piri
Re: Re: Re: China
by piri on Sep 15, 2016 10:18 PM
Not correct.

The core principle of communist governance is that the working classes - the poorest segment of the population - must be included in the countrys/soceitys development schemes so that they too get the benefits and that the basic services (like education, healthcare, food distribution, etc.) must remain in public hands and never surrendered to the private sector.

This is what is called equity (justice in sharing resources), not arithmetic equality.

China may have embraced market reforms. But, unlike India, it never has and has never considered handing over basic services to the private sector. In fact, it is not only education, healthcare and food distribution that remain in state hands in China to this day. Transportation, water supply, sanitation, etc. too remain in govt hands.

In fact, so unlike what has been happening in India in the past 25 years of economic reforms, China has only steeply increased its state expenditure for public services like education and healthcare. It has not yielded space to rapacious private players in these vital human development sectors.

Even the poorest Chinese in the most remote north western provinces now get healthcare and education services that are estimated to be as much 22 times and 27 times respectively in value as the poor Indian gets !

While China still grapples with corruption, it has never had the kind of loot of public resources such as coal or zinc or telecom spectrum that India has been constantly suffering !

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piri
Re: Re: Re: Re: China
by piri on Sep 15, 2016 10:22 PM
China completed comprehensive land reforms in the 1950s and brutally brought an end to the barbarian form of agricultural society, namely feudalism.

By contrast, Indian governments have consistently evaded the issue of land reforms and de facto feudalism continues in major areas, primarily in North India.

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prashant sinha
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: China
by prashant sinha on Sep 16, 2016 12:21 AM
I completely agree with you.China managed extensive land reforms because of communism which is answerable towards the welfare of the common people.In contrast, In India all the feudal elements became part of the ruling machinery with little intention to forego the privileged status held by them in society, economy and politics. Not only this many sycophants of the British, instead of being shown the door held plumb positions in the bureaucracy of Independent India.

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slider
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: China
by slider on Sep 17, 2016 01:22 AM
In no way is a centrally planned economy with a shred of capitalism thrown in going to survive. In capitalism only the best survive, in china the most connected get rich the poor remain in the same state. Have you heard of chinese requiring visas to move into cities? Do you hear the same from capitalist societies? Do you hear of one child policy even in india?
Even russia has engineering marvels far better than say usa, but, that did not prevent it from going kaput. The point is a free market economy will always produce a better result in the end than say a cuba or venezuela or argentina.


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nandeesh naveen
Re: Re: Re: Re: China
by nandeesh naveen on Sep 20, 2016 10:09 AM
PIRI u harakiri..

First Time U have Spoken Sense..out of ur Nutty(K_Blood) Infected Sense.

Kudos Keep it up.. Bravo Bravo.. U seem to have Kidney sometimes..

Liked it...SO Now U are coming back to BHARATH ka Track.. Welcome.

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nandeesh naveen
Re: Re: China
by nandeesh naveen on Sep 20, 2016 10:13 AM
1000% True Sinha Ji..

Super Analysis..

What U said..is the Hard Ground Reality.. which Mendi Bakri illiterate(Khangis Enslaved/Lazyness Loyal).. Indian Ducks, Crabs do not understand..

Feudalism...which the Khangis persisted all for Vote Banks..is the Bane & Viral Root of the Problem.. & Neo-Cronie Capitalism.. & PSeudo Proxy Cronies Sickulaarism.. of Whose Fathers What Goes Thamaasha Mockery of Lawless Dimmokrazy!

Hope PM Cuts its Very TENTACLES..

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nandeesh naveen
Re: Re: China
by nandeesh naveen on Sep 20, 2016 10:14 AM
1000% True Sinha ji.

Finally I have Met my Match sir..

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nandeesh naveen
Re: Re: Re: China
by nandeesh naveen on Sep 20, 2016 10:18 AM
REDIFF Deserves BHARATH RATNA & NOBLE PRIZE Combo Pack.. for Honestly Respecting FREE SPEECH/FREEDOM OF SPEECH(Khangis Hyped Slogan of Lawlessness) & for 1st time Allowing POST of My BLOG..

Kudos Rediff.. for Finally Publishing my Thoughts..

Thanks..GJD

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