Lal Krishna Advani born on 8 November 1927, at Karachi known as L.K Advani in Sindh of British (Pakistan)
Manmohan Singh born 26 September 1932) is the 13th and current Prime Minister of India. Born in Gah, Punjab in British (Pakistan) in 1932, he migrated to India with his family at the time of Partition in 1947.
Sonia Gandhi (born Antonia Edvige Albina Maino on 9 December 1946) is an Italian-born Indian politician and the President of
the Indian National Congress, one of the major political parties of India.
Re: Rulers of India and their backgrounds
by mohan mg on Jul 12, 2012 10:18 AM
is it shows, no guts to real Indian citizens? or not capable to overcome so called Indian politicians?!
Re: Rulers of India and their backgrounds
by Pure Dravidian on Jul 13, 2012 02:36 PM
The problem is minority politics of national parties. They do everything possible to please Paki sentiments
Stop harping about the past and stop dividing the country on the basis of race. Concentrate on the future and see what can we achieve. Our future, as a nation depend on what we can do now and in future and now what happened in the past is not going to help us now.
Re: stop it !
by mohan mg on Jul 11, 2012 01:52 PM
History brings knowledge to avoid future mystery! South was like a haven all the way due to less intervention unwanted external kingdom. That’s how they could achieve so much. Even now most progress happen in south, but diluted by our central government and poor financial planning from north. I think we need United states of India rather than one India!
This is already proved by lot archaeologist that dravidans are the oldest race and most civilized. And tamil is the oldest language which is adopted by most of the other languages.
Re: not a new one
by Pure Dravidian on Jul 06, 2012 02:04 PM
Absolutely right. Ancient Tamil is mother of all languages including Samskrtam. Evidence is pouring in day by day. Proud to be from the Dravidian race.
Re: not a new one
by Rajesh Kotian on Jul 21, 2012 03:28 PM
Agree, The best behaviour and culture and civilised attitude in the entire world is Chennai and Tamilnadu...cheers to all of us
Re: not a new one
by Das on Jun 25, 2012 03:28 AM
Is this a new addition to Mongloid, Caucasian and Negroid race. Indian will use any source, invent any excuse and use all sort of nonsensical arguementy to divide themselves. One is all for self-respect, but such the above statement may well have come from Nazis.
Re: Re: Re: not a new one
by Vanaj Itar on Jul 19, 2012 09:26 PM
Brahmi script came from the North. A lot of what you said is Tamil civilization is influence from North India including the Buddhism and Jainism. Every state in India had a glorious history and culture and is part of a common Indian culture. It's better not to belittle any state or region but celebrate our common heritage
The findings of 2500 years old indl estate is eye opener to indian intellectuals who believe that engineering & technology is the gift of West. There are thousans of thosands of pieces spread all over India like caves, temples, guns, forts, minars, palaces and masjids, etc., showing rich technology of India in the past. We need to teach correct history of India, unearth out technology talent, bring to surface our sciences including medical, astronomy, etc. Be one with the soil. Oh! Indian intellectuals connect yourself to Indian soil and bring the golden age again. Curb out Slave mind-set!
Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by guest on Jun 17, 2012 04:59 PM
lol r u sleeping did you forget ancient dwarka city, gujrat, it was cratead by lord krishna more than 5000yrs ago
Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by small Brother on Jun 17, 2012 05:07 PM
both of you are incorrigible.Why your techonoly is gone.They are not nuclear,rocket,aviation technology.Dont blabber in weeping patriotism
Re: Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by Das on Jun 17, 2012 06:15 PM
To small brother: were there nuclear, vaiationand rocket anywhere in 5000yr or 2500yr ago? You have to compare like with like Mr Small-minded. The technology creation is critically dependent on ability to organise.
Re: Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by bedanta kumar on Jun 18, 2012 09:54 AM
in real world, when the real happiness and sense of humanity, these rockets, nuclear doesnot make any sense, and they all now are in bad hands . wake up
Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by sam raj on Jun 17, 2012 08:51 PM
1. It is not just the Technology alone, it is more about the Business and Sea Trade relationship we had with Middle east, Europe and Asia pacific. It is quiet wrong to study the Indian history that Vasco da Gama discovered the sea route to India. It should be rediscovered the sea route to India.
2. The language used to record the events during that period was Prakrit and not Tamil or Sanskrit. It is quiet clear and evident that Prakrit is used across India till elimination Buddhism from India. This also proved by most of the In-do-china ancient Indian rulers like Khemer, Champa etc were using the same Prakrit or localized version of it. We are not studying the history of Prakrit language and it glory and failings in Indian history books, which shows we have been thought to study the biased winners stories which are partially right.
Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by piri on Jun 17, 2012 11:29 PM
You are wrong in saying that ancient India had sea trade links with Europe.
There was no such link at all !
India's sea links extended only upto the Persian, Arabian and African coasts! From there, the goods used to be transported over land to Europe. There were several such land routes from the Arabian and Persian (Iranian) coasts.
These land trade routes continued to be used till the rise of the Ottoman empire in the 14th century. The Ottoman (Turkish) empire cut off these land routes that passed through their territory as they were hostile to the European trading countries of those times.
Trade became extremely difficult as there were few alternative routes (trade using these alternative routes involved carrying merchandise through the extremely dangerous African continent).
It was then that the European merchant community began looking for an end-to-end sea route to reach India and beyond. They knew that India could be reached by sea from the writings of Ptolemy (although they did not know where the African continent ended and where the Atlantic joined the Indian ocean).
It was this highly sought after sea-link right from Europe to India that Vasco-da-Gama finally discovered.
Re: Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by sam raj on Jun 30, 2012 01:17 PM
You can very well refer the history some of the South Indian kingdoms for the ancient sea trades...Google with "pandyan kingdom" - Refer wiki for Pandyan_Dynasty & Early_Pandyan_Kingdom
Re: Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate!
by sam raj on Jun 30, 2012 12:35 PM
Go and read south Indian history carefully to identify the sea trades (Go to section Foreign sources). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandyan_Dynasty
Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial estate
by sam raj on Jun 30, 2012 04:00 PM
Also, suggest you to refer Indo-Roman trade relations from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Roman_trade_and_relations
It clearly shows the sea trade relation with ancient Europe (Roman and Greeks) happened through Red sea and Mediterranean sea from Tamil kingdoms before Christian era
The modern days sea route was found by Vasco-da-Gama via Africa continent
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG discovery: A 2,500-year-old industrial es
by piri on Aug 01, 2012 12:39 AM
Sam Raj !
You did not read what I have written, did you??
You saw my statement that 'there was no sea link between Indian kingdoms of yore and Europe' and wrote whatever you did!!
Now, read my write up fully and understand.
There was no Suez canal in those days. So, the question of ships travelling directly from Indian ports to Europe through the Red Sea and the Mediterranean did not arise!
As I wrote, the goods were transported upto the Persian/Arabian coasts (the Persian gulf or up the Red sea) and then transported over land through Turkey and Greece to Europe. Alternately, goods might have also been transported across the Mediterranean (after being transported overland from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean coast).
So, read posts carefully before advising people to 'go and read history carefully' !!
Re: If no Brahmin domination, TN could have grown better
by Ayyappan Ramasamy on Jun 17, 2012 02:07 PM
I mean, They put all kind of issues to people during British & Local King ruling, by dividing the community & escalating fight among them.
Re: Re: If no Brahmin domination, TN could have grown better
by Kela Aadmi on Jun 17, 2012 02:31 PM | Hide message
Sorry to hear that yourMummy ran away with aBrahmin!!!
Re: Re: Re: If no Brahmin domination, TN could have grown better
by Mahesh V on Jul 08, 2012 11:55 AM
Hahahahaha. Good One.
Re: If no Brahmin domination, TN could have grown better
by Das on Jun 17, 2012 06:18 PM
How long are you going to blame Brahmin, British and everyone esle but yourself. Are Kanimozi or Raja or Marans brhamin? No, so there.
Re: If no Brahmin domination, TN could have grown better
by sam raj on Jun 17, 2012 09:05 PM
I believe, it is due to fall of Buddhism and raise of Hinduism which made everyone as slaves with its divide and rule the society/people.
Re: Re: If no Brahmin domination, TN could have grown better
by sam raj on Jun 17, 2012 09:07 PM
Indian people have accepted and adopted this system for so many centuries, in fact APAC region and indo-china ancient Indian rulers adopted Buddhism over Hinduism due to its social divide and rule policies which is one of the reason for Buddhism got spread-ed outside India and not Hinduism
