What an absurd thought. Agricultural land is already decling and it would be improper if we plan to transform an agricultural land into industrial one. We already have millions hectares of land which falls under wasteland...why not convert those pieces into industrial units?
It only shows even after studying high level of education, someone does not become a genius. Farmers across India have already been forced to sell their land because farming has become unremunerative and government is taking over their lands in the name of public welfare, but distributing the same lands to industrialists.
Re: Economists
by Ashwin on Jul 26, 2012 09:36 PM
Yes. Farming has become totally unremunerative & farmers are fastbecoming beggars unless they are also into politics like UP & Maharashtra MLAs & MPs. In today's India, the best business is Politics. You will never incur losses, any number of criminal cases, will be quashed/washed & also special rewards will be given (ultimately) & one can easily have 1000s of Crores in Swiss Banks & can make it never dying family enterprise.
Re: Economists
by surya kanishka on Jul 26, 2012 09:40 PM
This is the larger part of the ruling Babus to force the farmers to sell their land by making agriculture un remunerative.
If one understands the stats, the farmer is put in agony in getting seeds, water and power, fertilisers and buyers for his produce. Every year lakhs and lakhs of farmers commit suicides for getting over burdened with debt. This is the game plan for them to force the farmers to sell their lands.
But the poor farmers dont have adequate skills to try other trades. This beleive their darthi maa too much who is not helping them too.
There is a great inequity in this nation; between the haves and havenots.
Why on earth a farmer should be compelled to sell his or her land? He is the owner of it and it is his right-ethical and judicial- to do what he wants to do with it.
But Industrialists argue that for the sake of development of the nation land has to be acquired even by force and to legitimise that a legislation has been passed.
OK.
Now, the counter question is, with a simple example:
In Mumbai land is scarce and housing has to be provided to citizens.
Godrej is owning vast, in fact, thousands of acres in the heart of the city, called Vikhroli. There is no plant nor any township, nothing. Godrej is sitting pretty on his own land without doing anything; not even cultivating it.
Why cant the Govt pay a nominal sum and build housing for the poor on it? Why should any one object? Shouldnt the law be the same for all?
Second example:
In the prime business district of Bombay, that is near Churchgate a stones throwaway from Nariman Point, there are two whacking stadia- Wankhede and Brabourne. Once in two years a cricket match is played there-no cultivation, no industry.
These two stadia belong to two private clubs and the land belongs to the Govt given on lease basis to these clubs donkeys years ago; or worse the land might even be owned by these private clubs.
Why should not the Govt RE-ACQUIRE this land and build residences for poor people?
Re: RE-ACQUIRE LAND OF WANKHEDE, BRABOURNE, GODREJ's VIKHROLI-poo
by aman on Jul 26, 2012 04:59 PM
if its a big shot.. the govt bends itself.. even they cant widen the road because of some rich politicians interference.
Re: RE-ACQUIRE LAND OF WANKHEDE, BRABOURNE, GODREJ's VIKHROLI-poo
by James Bond on Jul 26, 2012 08:34 PM
Your Point is Wrong. This Stadium were built much before and evey city should have some ground. As far Godrej please visit it. He is very much developed. There is lots of IT and Manufacturing companies there. There is a vast housing complex inside and you can see in even from train. I am not sure the housing complex is for common man or not. And Godrej has purchased the Land even before Independence so Gov should not do anything. Instead There were many open places in Mumbai which were sold without any reason. We should stop that. Even Mangrooves are distroyed.
Re: Re: RE-ACQUIRE LAND OF WANKHEDE, BRABOURNE, GODREJ's VIKHROLI
by Kabeer on Jul 27, 2012 12:08 AM
Precisely that is my point too.
People in Singur were tilling the land, that Tatas acquired, even before Parsiiis came to India and even the city called Bombay was built.
If acquiriing Wankhede and Vikhroli are taboos, as they were owned by people a few decades before, what on earth would be your reasoning for acquiring land tilled by people for millenia ever since mankind started cultivation.
He is totally wrong and does not know about land prices, land prices are soaring only due to developmental activities of Govt, else they are at throw away prices. IIndly who will pay proper price for the land in the back or in a pit etc.,
I don't think this would work, there is no will for the govt take this issue seriously. The worst cases of land acquisition happened in the recent past, one of them is Boulder Hills in Hyderabad. Govt took the land from farmers and gave to Emaar group for building golf course and housing project, initially farmers were assured of 21 Lac rupees later it was reduced to 5Lacs. The neighborhood is very affluent like Microsoft, Infosys and ISB etc., The were given peanuts for their land. Now those farmers are working as laborers in construction sites in their own land.
Please check at PUNE, where farmers have successfully leased the land to builders, for example in Magarpatta City, farmers are geting ROYALTY on their parental land and they are quite comfortably positioned. But this is the case inside a CITY.
For any project purpose, Farmers land should be on lease only and they should continue to remain owners of the land.
The auction may not work as owner of a small piece of land in the area who do not wish to sell his land may jeoparadise the entire project. In fact this is the main cause of delay in development projects in Kerala
The main hitch is not the value it is the delay in making payment. The land is acquired when there is no activity in the area and the market price itself is very low. If it is paid across the counter, there will be no problem. But in actual practice, the process is enormous and by the time the actual payment is being made, the area had been developed and the market prices sours. The beneficiary then feels that he is being robbed. His comparison is with the present market price. Therefore, unless the value is paid immediately and transaction confirmed, the dispute is bound to happen.
