I hope these doctors turned IAS may help to revive the healthcare system from its root level. The sorry state of government run medical colleges, hospitals, CHC, PHC - all need a programmed improvement to make the healthcare reaching to the poor. Our government s not ready even to spent 3 % GDP on health care; which is the minimum recommended by WHO.
In addition to the pay, could large scale corruption in the government and its functionaries lead the students to prefer private companies especially most of them being private global MNCs? :)
Re: PSUs as Employer - Corruption as dampener?
by Devadatta Bhaumik on May 12, 2011 02:53 AM
Private companies were the beneficiaries of the corruption.
IIMs, IMT, JBIMS, XIMB aren't the only Business Schools in the country. PSUs are far smarter in manpower recruitment than their private counterparts. While the private players go shopping for overpriced, less value for money, big brands to satisfy their bloated ego, the street smart PSUs shop for the hard working, more value per rupee and highly flexible B-school grads from other schools. If not for the political interference in, the huge social role of & the ethical binding of the PSUs their books would be much better than their private counterparts.
Re: PSUs are getting plenty of B-school grads
by kaustubh saha on May 11, 2011 02:44 PM
"hard working, more value per rupee and highly flexible B-school grads from other schools" -if they were more hard-working wouldnt it get reflected in their CAT score ? I am not suggesting that every premier BSchool grad is better than every grad from non premier school, but you are assuming the exact opposite which is wrong. Remember most grads from premier B-schools also come from tier 1 grad colleges (typically IITs/ NITs/ BITS etc) which is not the case with students from lesser known b schools. There would definitely be an odd guy from a tier 2 bschool who'd be way better than folks from IIMs but that is more of a statistical oddity than a rule
Re: Re: PSUs are getting plenty of B-school grads
by Bhasmasur Rakshasa on May 11, 2011 03:58 PM
Completely flawed view.......example is SP Jain, any marketing guy from SP Jain is far better than most IIM grads......
Most ops guys from NITIE/IITSOM do much better than IIM grads.....
Only in finance do IIM grads do well but that is more of a reflection of their IIT background or some CA topper background..
The profile of most IIM grads who join investment banks or consulting firms is a person with an IIT background or a CA topper....show me one guy who does not havwe this background...
Re: Re: PSUs are getting plenty of B-school grads
by varadraj prabhu on May 11, 2011 02:54 PM
Appreciate ur view pal. The premier institutes' niche is that their intake is very well filtered in general.Issues such as reservation does tend to reflect above findings.
Re: PSUs are getting plenty of B-school grads
by Sameer Bhagwat on May 11, 2011 01:11 PM
Indian bschools are overhyped..only iima and iim b comes in global rankings...my Bradford univ school of managemment is highly placed in global rankings than these iims
Re: Re: Re: PSUs are getting plenty of B-school grads
by surya das on May 15, 2011 08:21 AM
This is a marketing gimmic..who spend more comes as top in the list... Thats why ISB is in top 20 in world rankings by Times magzine..
But you can see IIMs (ABC) ve more brand value than any others..in India
Re: PSU posts
by kilikili on May 12, 2011 02:18 AM
So what , multi functionality is common in developed world. Even a History Grad can head a technical department what is important is his knowledge of the domaon and that could come outside a traditional degree through self learning and expereinces harnessed on the Job
IAS officers are much more capable & smart than these so called B-School graduates. PSUs are controlled by bureocrats from IAS cadre. Banks have their own procedure of recruitment & eventully officers become managers. PSUs & nationalised banks are doing better business than ICICI, HDFC & others. They are more reliable & safe.
Re: Re: PSUs do not need these B-School grads
by DEEP DAAS on May 11, 2011 01:28 PM
My dear friend Ashu - why do you always laugh at & deride others without putting any logical & meaningful reply? Do you think such statement of yours make any impact? If you have a view please put it with solid reason & facts which will prove your knowledge - instead of putting scoffing one-liners.
Re: Re: PSUs do not need these B-School grads
by DEEP DAAS on May 11, 2011 01:29 PM
My dear friend Ashu - why do you always laugh at & deride others without putting any logical & meaningful reply? Do you think such statement of yours make any impact? If you have a view please put it with solid reason & facts which will prove your knowledge - instead of putting scoffing one-liners.
Re: Re: Re: PSUs do not need these B-School grads
by Mr Han on May 11, 2011 07:12 PM
bu then do u find people working in psu's.these psu's were the only means when india never had private firms to satisfy their educated cadre.the officers want everything free... like for eg.O.N.G.C ...nobody cares whts happening.it is just because of their previous business and the assets they are surviving.
Re: Re: Re: Re: PSUs do not need these B-School grads
by surya das on May 15, 2011 08:34 AM
IAS officers are smarter than Top B-Schools grad.. Must be joke of 2011.
It would ve been better if you could add that IAS officer in 90s were smarter..because that time talent pool of India were preparing for IAS exams.. Now, not even 20% talent pools are looking at IAS exams.. Now, IAS positions are the licensed positions to loot money while working a white collar job in India.
A IIT Mumbai grad or IIM (ABC) grad or ISB grad way ahead in compare to IAS officer in terms of knowledge, handling the situation, and entrepreanureship qualities.
So, stop telling jokes.. That is why in todays generation prefers to be an engg or a management professionals rather than a civil servants.. YES, if u want earn black money under corrupt polticians..please prepare IAS exams...
And, talking about PSUs.. these are nothing but failure cos which our tax moneies are spending on them.. And, their directors are as failure as the Indian govt.
We all may not like ICICI but this is bank taught what is the customer means to a bank.. or else go to any PSU banks in 90s at 10 am, u will find most of the staff either not reached or went out for breakfast..lol
In Aviation, Deccan taught the rest how to serve people in a better way.. or else a middle class person had dream to take a flight.. And, u see Air India is in $4bil loss where as all private co.s are in huge profit.. WHY?
Nothing to prove, these PSUs are big failure..now they are making radical changes to cope of with demand
