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Why the phenomenal Tata Nano has wowed a US university!


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subrata banerjee
TATA NANO IS A COMPLETE FLOP IN INDIA & IN USA NANO?
by subrata banerjee on Mar 26, 2011 02:59 PM  | Hide replies

what is the highest speed of Nano? Tata group claimed it is around 120 kms, but the fact speaks that it is not at all safe to drive this model on busy and speedy roads. In USA the cars normally runs at around 70/80 miles per hour and on high ways it runs at around 120/140 miles per hour normally (note this is kilometer, but miles). SO ONE CAN EASILY IMMAGINE WHAT WOULD BE THE CONDITION OF NANO ON USA HIGH WAYS.


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kunjan shah
Re: TATA NANO IS A COMPLETE FLOP IN INDIA & IN USA NA
by kunjan shah on Mar 27, 2011 04:12 PM
if nano comes in a little bigger version (say like alto) , we would buy it. its ok if its more expensive.

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raj
Sorry Nano.. we live life large in USA
by raj on Mar 24, 2011 06:53 AM  | Hide replies

I myself drive a Chevy Suburban ...sorry guys we live life big

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Dr Evil
Re: Sorry Nano.. we live life large in USA
by Dr Evil on Mar 27, 2011 08:25 PM
Who cares about you anyways?

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Csaba Molnar
Re: Sorry Nano.. we live life large in USA
by Csaba Molnar on Oct 03, 2012 01:19 PM
Considering the size of your jeans, I am sure that you are right. I, on the otherhand, would love to own a small economical car, which runs on the fraction of fuel your Chevy Suburban guzzles down.

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techie
TECHIE
by techie on Mar 23, 2011 05:47 AM  | Hide replies

TATA NANO IS A NO-NO
ITS JUNK, ANY OWNER OF THIS JUNK IS A BORN FOOOOL

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Arun
Re: TECHIE
by Arun on Mar 23, 2011 06:11 AM
I can smell some thing burning...

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techie
techie
by techie on Mar 23, 2011 05:45 AM

JUST GOOGLE TO KNOW ABOUT 2G SCAMMMER ROTTEN TATA

" Kanimozhi & the land deal mystery "


ANIL AMBANI MEETS SIBAL TO DISCUSS HOW TO ESCAPE FROM 2G SCAMMMM
JUST LIKE ROTTEN TATA HAS PHONE CALLED KARUNIDHI YESTERDAY
BOTH ROTTEN TATA , AMBANI.... ARE PART OF 2G SCAMMMM

BOTH THE FRAUD PEOPLE BANK TRANSACTION SHOULD BE VERIFIED
MAKE THEM STAND NEXT TO GREAT FRAUD SATYAM RAJU

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techie
techie
by techie on Mar 23, 2011 05:45 AM

START THE JPC ON 2G AND ISRO SPECTRUM SCAMMM


HOW THE 2G SCAMMM HIT GOV ALLOWED TO ERASE THE RADIA TAPES
SC, CBI, PAC is SLEEPING
ALL THESE TAPES SHOULD BE GIVEN TO JPC

FORM JPC SOOON
ROTTEN TATA, RADIA, AMBANI, PM, SIBAL, UPA, DMK.....MANY MANY ARE THUG
ISRO SCUMBAGS CHIEF RADHAKRISHNA, KASTURIRANGAN, MADHVAN NAIR, CNR RAO.......MANY MANY SHOULD VERIFIED AND ARRESTED

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Kabeer
California’s Tesla Motors’ Example!
by Kabeer on Mar 23, 2011 12:06 AM  | Hide replies

A few months ago, Tesla Motors in California was given a land of only 100 acres and only for 30 year lease. The investment by Tesla is $250 mln and at Rs. 47/- per $, it translates to Rs.1,175 Cr which is nearly equal to Tatas investmetn of Rs.1,300 Cr (2000 cr plus, is hog wash. Excess above is only cost overruns!) but on a land of 10 times higher i.e. 1000 acres for a 90 year lease.

If Tesla can produce cars on a similar investment with 1/10th of the land, why Tatas want 10 times of that land?

If Tatas are producing a common man car, Tesla is producing an equally impressive far superior high technology green car!

Even in Capitalist US which has 3 times of Indias land with only 1/3 of Indias population, gives only 1/10 of land and only for 1/3rd of the lease period and that too non-farming land which is not acquired forcibly from private individuals.
Contrary to popular perception, land is scarce in India.

Why free market pundits do not advocate free market costs, particularly when the products are sold at market driven prices but not on subsidies either to the farmers or WBIDC or the Govt?

Efficiency of private sector can not be gauged in this method.


The argument of Govt earning taxes is crap!
All taxes are pass-throughs to end customers; while profits remain with Tata Motors.

Secondly, I have not taken into account sales tax loans, tax holidays etc., which will subsidise the so called revenue generation in form of salex taxes, excise duties

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chandra gandu
Re: California’s Tesla Motors’ Exampl
by chandra gandu on Mar 23, 2011 05:40 AM
compare the volume of production at tata to tesla. and if you want to compare a much close car maker to tesla look at reva in india which is a green car in production for last 10 years. us woke up only now.

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Kabeer
Re: California’s Tesla Motors’ Exampl
by Kabeer on Mar 23, 2011 12:07 AM
Tatas pay lease rent on 1000 acres
1-5 years @ 1 cr per year 5 cr
6-10 years @1.25 Cr per year 6.5 Cr.,
11-15 years @1.56 Cr per year 7.8 Cr
16-20 years @ 1.95 Cr per year 9.75 Cr.,
21-25 years @ 2.44 Cr per year 12.2 Cr.,
26-30 years @3.05 Cr per year 15.25 Cr.,
31-40 years @ 5 Cr per year 50 Cr.,
41-50 years @ 6.5 Cr per year 65 Cr.,
51-60 years @ 8.45 Cr per year 84.5 Cr
61-90 years @ 20 Cr per year 600 Cr

A total rent of 856 Cr.

Compare this with interest WBIDC has to pay on a loan 150 Cr taken @ 10% p.a. to acquire the land for Tatas!

Interest @ 10% on a loan of 150 Cr for 90 years = 1350 Cr
Add Principal Rs. 150 Cr.,
An aggregate cost to WBIDC Rs. 1500 Cr.
Against which it receives a lease rent of only 856 Cr.,
i.e. a Subsidy of 644 Cr (1500-856)
(interest benefit due to the back-ended payments in favour of Tatas not factored)

Plus

WBIDC sanctioned a 5 year loan of 200 Cr only @ 1% p.a. interest to Tatas.
If you take 11% Bank FD rate, then the cost to WBIDC is 10% (11-1)
For a 5 year term it translates to 50% on 200 Cr loan i.e 100 Cr additional subsidy

Total subsidy = 644;100 = 744 Cr
Cost of project= 1300 Cr.,
Subsidy as a % of project cost: 744/1300 i.e. 57%

Electricity tariff is only 3/- per unit (KWH) i.e. the lowest domestic slab against 10/- per unit (CERC Peak load hour rate) for industrial supply in a power starved state
i.e a subsidy of 67%!

Who pays for all this?

BHARAT RATNA to RATAN TATA!


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Chalta Hai
Re: California’s Tesla Motors’ Exampl
by Chalta Hai on Mar 23, 2011 12:09 AM
fukwas !!! then why are americans lining up to buy NANO and not tesla. A toyota corolla quality car Nano at measly $2500, what americans even arab sheikhs will line up :-)

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Arun
Re: Re: California’s Tesla Motors’ Ex
by Arun on Mar 23, 2011 06:14 AM
Haha... Americans lining up to buy Nano? Lol. Dont you have any work other than writing useless posts in every forum and proving your empty head?

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Kabeer
Re: Re: California’s Tesla Motors’ Ex
by Kabeer on Mar 23, 2011 12:12 AM
Let Tata produce this Nano in the US where there are no subsidies and then see at what price he can produce a Nano there.

By the way Teslas car is a Green car driven by electricity and there is enough market in the US for Tesla

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Mahesh
Re: Re: Re: California’s Tesla Motors’
by Mahesh on Mar 27, 2011 08:43 PM
Useless fellow.. that us a non indian company and TATA is an indian company.
Profits from TATA company are reinvested in India.. Dont talk like a fool.. if big business house didnt had a vision for todays India some 100 years back.. you would not even have born to use internet.


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Gundu
use nano experience to become parts supplier
by Gundu on Mar 23, 2011 12:00 AM  | Hide replies

With nano experience tata will end up may be as low cost part supplier - another case for outsourcing - not bad!!

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Chalta Hai
Re: use nano experience to become parts supplier
by Chalta Hai on Mar 23, 2011 12:05 AM

what fukwas you are doing man ? IN USA you will have to spend $15,000 to own a car and in India you will have to spend $2500 for the same car. Why not sell car cheap in America at THAT price and capture the market than doing low end jobs like parts suppliar ?

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Gundu
Re: Re: use nano experience to become parts supplier
by Gundu on Mar 23, 2011 12:10 AM
Who is speaking an indian middle class or usa middle class. usa middle class will never buy a small car like NANO get that?

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Guru
For people who dont know
by Guru on Mar 22, 2011 11:35 PM  | Hide replies

For people who don't know , Ratanji graduated from Cornell and also he is currently in Board of Trustees. He is trying hard to market or at least people to know that India has a manufacturing capability...But I am sure there won't be "WOW" .

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Mahesh
Re: For people who dont know
by Mahesh on Mar 22, 2011 11:54 PM
Sure, till there are people like you in India, There won't be WOW.

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Mahesh
Re: Re: For people who dont know
by Mahesh on Mar 23, 2011 12:09 AM
Why don't you change your name? There is already one Mahesh that is respectful.

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Chalta Hai
Re: Re: For people who dont know
by Chalta Hai on Mar 23, 2011 12:04 AM
c-h-u-t-i-y-e harcheezmenukhsnikalnajaroori hai.

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