Re: Re: USA
by sujeesh areekara on Sep 06, 2010 09:22 AM
you seem to be a major recipient.Our politicians could have begged but no Indian worth his name will beg ...he will rather die of starvation than sell his dignity .
for the criminal gunslinger.Obama was given the rotten fish head down.Do you expect to change the captain to save the Titanic from sinking? Time changes, the situation changes. Casino Ponzicapitalistic criminalism serves America right!Their luck is running out.
Re: No way out
by Loan Shark on Sep 04, 2010 11:46 PM
luck ... Americans know how to change their luck ... this country is not number one because it was lucky and its people are lucky
friendly countries. - Now they fight with minimum army movement on ground., minimizing the human losses. Eg. Iraq and Afkanistan wars were fought mostly by bombing from air and firing missiles of all ranges accurately on targets causing heavy damage to the enemy. - Education : -US holds some of the best universities which are sought by brilliant students all over the world. - R&D is one of the best especially in Science, Engineering , Medical and Space technology.
Politics :
In spite of only around 400 years of history, the political policy to invite the best in every field from different countries, give them freedom and bring the best in the respective line.
Allow uninhibited constructive critism on anybody so that there is improvement. - Strong leaders like Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt , Kennedy to name a few; An example is the vow Kennedy took and landed the first man on Moon in 1969 when USSR led in space research at that time. One last word :
If India followed USA right from Independence, it would have been a super power like Japan, Israel by now instead of Socialism which was abandoned by the same Indira
Re: Don’t underestimate USA contd...
by PJdreams on Sep 03, 2010 10:15 PM
Venkat murthy you do realized how flawed your first statement is? ----- - Now they fight with minimum army movement on ground., minimizing the human losses. Eg. Iraq and Afkanistan wars were fought mostly by bombing from air and firing missiles of all ranges accurately on targets causing heavy damage to the enemy. ----- Just because technology can be perfect or even almost perfect doesn't mean it's not killing it's own soldiers. Humans are flawed and that flawed effect hurts people.
Many U.S. soldiers and other soldiers that are the allies have died this way not just in this war. Pat tillmen didn't die this way, but he died to a gun from the allied side. Many soldiers have died from miscalculations of where to drop their bombs. It happens and it's part of war, but to say it's accurately on targets is a miscalculation on your part.
If you've never been a foot soldier you won't ever understand the wars. Only foot soldiers can really grasp war while the others sit and watch most of the time, but soldiers CAN'T have a voice most of the time as it goes against their work. They need the people to realize this.
Even though I'm military I can't grasp it because I've never fought a gun fight. Only my brother in law can grasp it.
High accuracy of 99% doesn't mean it's high accuracy on the enemies it means it hit where it was supposed to hit and if the human messes up it hits allied soldiers.
Re: Don’t underestimate USA contd...
by techno geek on Sep 04, 2010 11:11 PM
Venkat Murthy you have made a key statement in 2 paras "if war erupts".
US is a superpower in this unipolar world but it is (was) at the peak. The days ahead are of slow decline. Of course its not USSR that will be run down in a day but other power centers such as China and India will emerge.
"If there is no war" , India and China with their growth rates will be superpowers by 2050. I want to live to see that day :)
Re: Don’t underestimate USA contd...
by PJdreams on Sep 03, 2010 10:14 PM
Venkat murthy you do realized how flawed your first statement is? ----- - Now they fight with minimum army movement on ground., minimizing the human losses. Eg. Iraq and Afkanistan wars were fought mostly by bombing from air and firing missiles of all ranges accurately on targets causing heavy damage to the enemy. ----- Just because technology can be perfect or even almost perfect doesn't mean it's not killing it's own soldiers. Humans are flawed and that flawed effect hurts people.
Many U.S. soldiers and other soldiers that are the allies have died this way not just in this war. Pat tillmen didn't die this way, but he died to a gun from the allied side. Many soldiers have died from miscalculations of where to drop their bombs. It happens and it's part of war, but to say it's accurately on targets is a miscalculation on your part.
If you've never been a foot soldier you won't ever understand the wars. Only foot soldiers can really grasp war while the others sit and watch most of the time, but soldiers CAN'T have a voice most of the time as it goes against their work. They need the people to realize this.
Even though I'm military I can't grasp it because I've never fought a gun fight. Only my brother in law can grasp it.
High accuracy of 99% doesn't mean it's high accuracy on the enemies it means it hit where it was supposed to hit and if the human messes up it hits allied soldiers.
Re: Don’t underestimate USA contd...
by aurigo auri on Sep 03, 2010 09:43 AM
VENKAT Murthy try to learn basics of economics before telling anything about DOLLAR. Dollar will collapse and US dont have any tools now. The only Tool they have is to produce , innovate and SAVE . But the current generation is Waste in the WORLD they just Borrow and consume. The are taking back the troops since they cant manage in IRAQ. US IS GOING DOWN. AMERICAN DREAM IS OVER. NO HYPED WORLD , JUST REAL WORLD WILL BE FUTURE.
Re: Re: Don’t underestimate USA contd...
by punter ponting on Sep 03, 2010 06:12 PM
aurigo auri, thats so bad news for soft countries like India, will be rule once again by islamist inveders, and chinese noodles
Economy: - Dollar value is low but point one alternative currency to US dollar; Remember one main reason to remove Saddam when he attempted - USA has so much of untapped oil under them ; even if the world lost all oil in another say 25 years ; they will have oil. - It bought Alaska from USSR which contains minerals of very high value. - Came out successfully recession in 30’s which is one the worst in the history. - Ensure their guns, arsenal, military aircraft, ships , missiles have always business in developing countries by creating feud between them. - Big businesses have been always heavily supported in spite of their unethical, inhuman practice, dwindling resources of other countries by the US government. Eg. Bailing the recent fraudulent banks , promoting Cola, Pepsi , Boeing etc. - USA has many tricks up the arms like untapped minerals, oils, gold , nuclear fuel etc which will be released as the need arises. - Cleverly used the divide and rule policy throughout the world - India- Pakistan, Gulf, Africa, South America to name only a few. - Relentless printing of dollar notes like toilet tissues now diminishes dollar value as of now. When the above policies are implemented, the other currencies go down and naturally dollar will go up.
Might :
- US has submarines and bases throughout the world, in case a world war erupts, it can bring warships and arms to their bases which are built near their
Re: don't underestimate usa
by Ullhas Sontake on Sep 03, 2010 09:21 AM
agree to all of what you are saying... but after all they need brains right!!! which they are taking from India at present....
It that really required, with such great economists and think-tankers' predictions, can the nation avoid it? what they will prove by getting into it and then bounce back? how much loss it incurs during this timespan? how many would become jobless and homeless and lifeless during this time? they need a good leader and it's become a tough task to find one at least for the next decade...
Re: WHY GETTING INTO IT AND THEN BOUNCE BACK?
by Iam Indian on Sep 03, 2010 12:01 AM
The problem with the US is that it does not have a PhD in Economics as their leader like we do.
Knowing Economics jargon and how to manipulate fancy statistics is very important in showing that the recession is over and your country is growing at a phenomenal rate of 90000%!
Re: Re: WHY GETTING INTO IT AND THEN BOUNCE BACK?
by ershad am on Sep 04, 2010 11:04 PM
I think now onwards we can see only reccession in USA. Whatever sin they did in afgan.iraq,Palestain, now they will full rewards from almighty.
its true that world will be multi-polar in the future but i am sure that india will not own any pole of them. Some factors are:- 1)Land grab still a major issue for investors 2)corruption by far is at the highest level. 3)Chinese supported naxalism is at its peak. 4)and many more things like those
US has had several recession and one great depression. Americans has fought back hard to get back in business. This time it will not be easy. US is the only country that can handle the tremors of recession; there is no country (democratic) that is like US.
Re: Recession will not last longer
by Srinivasan Ramachandran on Sep 02, 2010 11:25 PM
Unless US find a way to stop China! China is going to be a real global threat!!!
Re: Recession will not last longer
by Srinivasan Ramachandran on Sep 02, 2010 11:25 PM
Unless US find a way to stop China! China is going to be a real global threat!!!
Re: Recession will not last longer
by Kaka on Sep 02, 2010 10:03 PM
I agree with u, the Yankees have a resilience and the undying spirit to bounce back time and again from the most despicable of situations. They are one of a kind and this time as well they will bounce back. No wonder they remain the real and true super power for all times.
America is a super rich country in terms of their natural resources.It has gone through such times in the past and come out stronger.So dont ever underestimate its power .
Re: Re: American recession
by ershad am on Sep 04, 2010 11:45 PM
whterver happenings in USA that is rewards from Almighty(Super power did lot of sins now reward started .
It is 100 % sure that USA will dip into Recession and even Depression. Most of the economies are sure of LOST Decade of USA. But many so called OPTIMISTIC thinking many economist are PESSIMISTIC that's why they are predicted all this collapse. if Americans think TRUTH is PESSIMISTIC ,its their big illusion. Just think. if a country loose 1.Manufacturing market (Outsourced to china). 2.Service market (Outsourced to INDIA). 3.IT Market (Outsourced to INDIA). 4.Textile Market (Outsourced both CHINA,INDIA) 5.Country Debt more than 2 Trillion and go beyond in very soon. 6.Productivity Very Low. 7.Real Estate Market is Lowest in the decade. 8.Many companies are Bailed out. 9.People started hardly working with laziness. 10.Real Unemployement rate more than 18%. 11. A goverment just PRINTING Dollar rather than real job creation. 12. Dollar value is all time Low against Dollar.
Just imagine things are bad than INDIA apart from infrastructure.
Re: 100 % of Double Dip
by Nalla Sivam on Sep 02, 2010 09:58 PM
But friend, Whenever US in recession ,they will pull others into the trap or will direct a real war movie ,the actors Iran and North Korea both are ready ...then their (US) investement in Europe and other developing countires including ASia ,once these investements re pulled out out our fate (India) will become more worst ...but wahtever US do all the US citizens will get Unemployment allowance and back in India loan recovery goons behind the new young richmen (who thought to live a life of US style in India) who worked in all the US -associated invested companies..and in the Que for job as ATM security person a former heavy users of ATM/Credit card/Shares/Mutual funds ...will also there with tears in eyes and lies in mouth...
