"The IIMs have to play a more catalytic role in upgrading the education provided by these institutions"
it is not just the IIMs, all the universties, colleges, AICTs, UGCs, state and central government has to provide real sincere application and efforts to upgrade the educational system.
the students, faculty and the management of IIMs, are mostly the cream of indian educational system and the environment is Indian politics, bureaucracy, and the business.. no blaming game Sir!
this is the punch line of IIM Indore, BLAC is the abbreviations for IIM Bangalore, Lakhnaw Ahamadabad and Calcutta. But the reality is something else. Institute undergone negative turn around due to mediocre prof. ( having previous experience as front office manger of Beauty parlors , Medical Rep. of second grade drug company). Their way of teaching is not diff. from any class 12 lecture sessions . The other cause of deterioration of IIM I is that it still overshadowed by IIM Ahamadabad. Prof. who transferred from IIM A to IIM I is taking it as punishment posting and it reflects and severely affects the 90 min. lecture session. Last but not the least - present director a live example of " prisoner of his own philosophy" should stop comparing I with A . It is putting negating impact on the participants.
Re: IITs and IIMs
by Harish Manwani on Nov 15, 2010 01:01 PM
Don't blabber without a basic idea of the facts. The numbers who go abroad from the IIMs, and even the IITs are a minority. And those who go abroad play a key role in lobbying for India, and are mainly responsible for the positive perception about India, especially in the United States. And that is far more than what you do by sitting here and mouthing inane stuff. Many IIM grads go to organizations such as Unilever, P&G, even Infosys. And they manage the operations of these companies in INDIA. As for all your talk about 'inventions' and 'business deals', you should remember that the IITs and IIMs are still very much located in Mera Bharat Mahan. And you can't expect them to rise much above the mediocrity and slavishness that characterises India. See the same grads when they go to the US, churn out inventions and management concepts. Think hotmail, Sun Microsystems, core competence, bottom of the pyramid etc. All IIT/IIM inventions. You can't put a person in the monkey cage that is India, and expect him/her to be world-class, however brilliant he/she is. Grow up, and get a life before making such ill-thought out statements.
Re: Re: IITs and IIMs
by Debo Mcnair on Nov 15, 2010 09:31 PM
Again to my point - Why should the Indian tax payer foot the bill for building Sun and hotmail.
For one IItian who joins Indian companies there are > 100 from other institutes. Why should GOI spend on maintaining IITs when they are useless for India.
Did you say that by being an IItain they can lobby for India. Ok we dont need that lobbying service - thank you!
1. What makes Minister to say that IIMs are not up to mark as far as curriculum is concerned? It is necessary to know that so that areas needed to be tacked could be focussed on. Such feedback should be available and be made public. 2. There should be periodic surveys from various trade and other associations to know what is lacking in the quality of management graduates serving their memebers and what improvement accordingly is needed in e4ducation. 3. Opening more IIMs should not be done unless matched by quality teachers as it would surely lead to deterioration in the standard of management education. In the current scenario when thousands of management institutions are available, IIMs have their own hall mark and image across the world so it should not be diluted. Govt. should rather focuss on second and third rung institutions and try to find out how their standard of education could be improved. Of course machinery is already their . Only we have to see how they can be geared up to take care of real issues in management education.
IIMs are good in my opinion and the West is in trouble,despite having reputed Institutions. The most stunning news,is that the Harvard Business School is "BANKRUPT",due to BAD investments in Derivatives.And this Institute TEACHES,"BUSINESS",of all things!
IIMs have its place in India. However, India's vast majority lives in the rural areas. IIMs graduates rarely works in rural organisations. India needs to develop its rural sector at a faster pace if India is to become a developed nation. If the money (grant) spent by Govt on IIMs are spent to set up Institutes like IRMA (founded under the Chairmanship of Dr. V Kurien), India (and Indians) will really benefit. Is anyone hearing? I thought people like Rahul Gandhi will be interested in promoting institutions like IRMA.
iim is not some paan ki dukaan to rapidly expand or dilute its intake criteria good professors are also not found everywhere and are paid much less than foreign peers
Re: Re: dsfsd
by Joseph Purathur on Nov 15, 2010 09:29 AM
IIMs are elitist, and cater to MNCs and organisations having deep pockets. Govt should not provide any GRANT to IIMs. Let the Government recover the money it has spent on IIMs and then privatise the IIMs.
