I am still not able to understand why only 1,032 units have been sold worldwide? Rs 10 crore is blo$ody 2 million USD. Why not each and every hospital in us bought it? As per wiki, its not as useful as said in this article. Also, this machine can be used by highly experienced doctors and has a good learning curve associated with it.
Re: why only 1,032 units worldwide?
by Joseph Purathur on Sep 03, 2010 02:02 PM
Relatively new technology, cost is high, developing countries are yet to catch up. As one Robotic Expert Surgeon said recently in a Conference "the Robotic train has left the station is not going to stop". More and more centres around the world will go for the technology in due course of time.
Just wondering whether this robotic surgery is worth its cost in India. What would be the cost of such a surgery vis a vis one done by an experienced surgeon? And if robots do the surgery, how shall younger surgeons be trained to be competent surgeons? This technology may be useful in advanced nations with developed facilities in far flung areas wihtout skilled medical personnel, but is that the situation in India (do rural areas have all facilities except medical personnel?) And if the robot costs Rs 10 crores, leaving aside running expenses, repair and maintainence costs, it is worthwhile to know whether how many surgeons earn that amount in a similar time as the lifetime of the robot (possibly 10 years)
Re: And then there will be power cuts, voltage fluctuations, ....
by Sheetal Kaur on Mar 21, 2010 01:01 AM
Robot surgeons do not carry out surgery on their own, they are controlled by a human. In other words a surgeon sitting in UK can perform surgery on a patients in India. Roberts are used quite extensively here in UK but only between inter hospitals.A sergeon in Scotland who will not be able to reach the patient for surgery in London can perform it from Scotland. Every image of the surgery is available to him on a screen and every move he makes is repeated by the Robert. Humans are not completely eliminated from the sUrgery,all the staff that is required for operation has to be present. Roberts can't administer anesthetic,can't change blood bags,perform suction,change instruments,Take blood pressure or resuscitate in case of a cardiac arrest. It is only to mimic the moves of a surgeon sitting far away.
Re: Re: And then there will be power cuts, voltage fluctuations,
by Amitabh Das on Mar 21, 2010 09:55 AM
well We can understand the precision with such surgery if its done from the same place. But what will happen if a doctor is doing surgery say from us and the patent is in india and the satellite/dedicate lan line fails. do you wanna say that all of a suggen the back up doctor will take control at the site? don't sound human to me.
Re: hackers will be happy to hack it
by Jems Odda on Mar 20, 2010 09:40 PM
The 1st Patient will be Amar Singh kideny, then all Mallus because the liquor sales became ten times more in Mallu's State
This looks to be scary because one never knows when a machine can go wrong due to mech/elect/electronic/computer failures, etc. The robot will then behave like a "rogue" surgeon and go beserk ..... chopping away !
Re: Re: Dangerous
by Sheetal Kaur on Mar 21, 2010 06:41 AM
Robots and computers do not do the surgery on their own, it is just a tool that is used by a surgeon remotely. It is well established here in Europe. Beside full team of surgeons and staff has to be present in the theater one can not dispense with them.
Re: Re: Re: Dangerous
by Joseph Purathur on Jan 04, 2012 09:43 AM
surgery controlled from a remote (far away place) is only one of the features. it does not mean that the surgery is always done from far away places. for example, in MPUH Nadiad, the surgeon will be sitting next to the patient on a console as shown in the pictures above, and conducting the surgery. More than 130 robotic-assisted surgeries have been performed at MPUH Nadiad as of Dec-2011. It is safe with superior outcome for patients.
Re: Dangerous
by Amitabh Das on Mar 21, 2010 09:58 AM
What if the doctor dies of heart stroke :D. Trust me , its very safe but I will never favour in doing surgery from remote location unless its not really really crucial.
