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Prakash
A passionate appeal
by Prakash on Feb 24, 2010 10:24 PM  | Hide replies

What I am trying to project is a profound philosophic view. So request you all to take the fundamental point. Companies corporations are just purely co-incidental. And also absolutely written with a very good intention and passion towards the benevolence of the nature.

By the GOD’S design (in case of the people who are theistsbelievers) or by the very nature of REALITY NATURE (in case of the people who are atheistsnon-believers) every fruit vegetable has seeds embedded in it NATURALLY or by design (examples can be given a plenty. But for the record sake let us take an apple as an example). In cases where this natural seed embedded provision is not there then the GOD’s design or NATURE REALITY's has ensured that the very species (say a grain of rice, which does not contain any seed) can be used as a seed itself. This what can be termed as the benevolence the GOD or by REALITY NATURE .

Now my fundamental question is why these GM foods are genetically modified to be seedless? Don't you think that the CAPACITY which was bestowed upon by the GOD or by REALITY NATURE on the very nature is going to be usurped by some companies corporations? Well....before the advent of science and technology, mankind, for not just centuries but for millions of ages survived because of this benevolence of the GOD or of REALITY NATURE . For example an apple uncollected by humans will fall to ground, get putrefied and then from it's seeds another apple tree sprouts. It is

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Prakash
Re: A passionate appeal
by Prakash on Feb 24, 2010 10:25 PM
(Continuation)……the same case with every kind of plant or tree in nature. This is one of the many different ways the GOD or REALITY NATURE makes the nature perpetuate itself. Same is the case with Animals & water creatures (living in seas, rivers, ponds etc). One can't curtail or limit THIS benevolence of the GOD or REALITY NATURE . But where as GM foods once allowed then these seedless varieties will replace the with seeds varieties permanently in the long run. This is not at all natural to the nature’s benevolent original conception.

I am for science and technology. For innovation and creativity. But all this should work to enhance or work to uphold the GOD's or REALITY NATURE's benevolence. With out any doubt it should not be the other way round. So GM foods that facilitate less usage of pesticides, with more yields and with high resistance to pesticides are most welcome. But they SHOULD also be with the, with seeds provision i.e., the gene responsible for seed generation capability should not be tweaked to be seedless. And also these should be extensively tested by Government NGOs without any restrictions before being introduced into the markets for public. Because one should always remember that the agricultural products, once produced, are being consumed on daily basis by the public. So the vigorous testing framework is mandatory.

Well.... I am a very dutiful citizen by nature. I am only expressing my opinion as this forum is allowing me to do SO. And of cou

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Prakash
Re: Re: A passionate appeal
by Prakash on Feb 24, 2010 10:26 PM
(Continuation)……course I do emphatically agree that the ultimate power to decide on these matters lies rests with the government and so do I will accept whatever the decision the government ultimately takes (either for FOR or for AGAINST) regarding this matter.

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Prakash
Re: Re: Re: A passionate appeal
by Prakash on Feb 25, 2010 01:42 PM
With more clarity….The fundamental question is ….why these GM foods are genetically modified to be seedless? Don't you think that the CAPACITY which was bestowed upon by the GOD or by REALITY \ NATURE on the very nature is going to be usurped \ assumed\ taken away \ snatched away by some companies \ corporations? Well....before the advent of science and technology, mankind, for not just centuries but for millions of ages survived because of this benevolence of the GOD or of REALITY \ NATURE . For example an apple uncollected \ un-plucked by humans will fall to the ground, get putrefied, dried over time and then from it's seeds another apple tree sprouts \ takes life. It is the same case with every kind of plant or tree in nature. This is the way the GOD’s design or NATURE \ REALITY's benevolence operates and mandates through nature the regenerative power of the plants or vegetable life. And also this is one of the many different ways the GOD or REALITY \ NATURE makes the nature perpetuate itself. It is the case with Animals & water living creatures (living in seas, rivers, ponds etc). All these, plants, vegetation, living beings (like animals, and water borne creatures) are bestowed with the regenerative capacity and thus to perpetuate their respective species in nature. This is what the almighty GOD’s design or NATURE \ REALITY's nature conferred on nature. One can't curtail or limit THIS benevolence of the GOD or REALITY \ NATURE. But wh

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Prakash
Re: Re: Re: Re: A passionate appeal
by Prakash on Feb 25, 2010 01:43 PM
But where as GM foods once allowed then these seedless varieties will replace the with seeds varieties permanently in the long run. This is not at all NATURAL to the nature’s benevolent original conception. So the very regenerative capacity bestowed upon by nature by the GOD’s design or NATURE REALITY's will be taken over by some companies corporations. My question is…. Is it ethical to do so?

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Gajanan Mohite
Scientific American article Part 3 , GM crops
by Gajanan Mohite on Feb 24, 2010 09:48 AM

The group has submitted a statement to the EPA protesting that “as a result of restricted access, no truly independent research can be legally conducted on many critical questions regarding the tech­nol­ogy.”

It would be chilling enough if any other type of company were able to prevent independent researchers from testing its wares and reporting what they find—imagine car companies trying to quash head-to-head model comparisons done by Consumer Reports, for example. But when scientists are prevented from examining the raw ingredients in our nation’s food supply or from testing the plant material that covers a large portion of the country’s agricultural land, the restrictions on free inquiry become dangerous.

Although we appreciate the need to protect the intellectual property rights that have spurred the investments into research and development that have led to agritech’s successes, we also believe food safety and environmental protection depend on making plant products available to regular scientific scrutiny. Agricultural technology companies should therefore immediately remove the restriction on research from their end-user agreements. Going forward, the EPA should also require, as a condition of approving the sale of new seeds, that independent researchers have unfettered access to all products currently on the market. The agricultural revolution is too important to keep locked behind closed doors.

August 2009 issue of Sci American, 3 parts, editorial.


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Gajanan Mohite
Scientific American article Part 2 , GM crops
by Gajanan Mohite on Feb 24, 2010 09:46 AM

They cannot compare seeds from one company against those from another company. And perhaps most important, they cannot examine whether the genetically modified crops lead to unintended environmental side effects.

Research on genetically modified seeds is still published, of course. But only studies that the seed companies have approved ever see the light of a peer-reviewed journal. In a number of cases, experiments that had the implicit go-ahead from the seed company were later blocked from publication because the results were not flattering. “It is important to understand that it is not always simply a matter of blanket denial of all research requests, which is bad enough,” wrote Elson J. Shields, an entomologist at Cornell University, in a letter to an official at the Environmental Protection Agency (the body tasked with regulating the environmental consequences of genetically modified crops), “but selective denials and permissions based on industry perceptions of how ‘friendly’ or ‘hostile’ a particular scientist may be toward [seed-enhancement] technology.”

Shields is the spokesperson for a group of 24 corn insect scientists that opposes these practices. Because the scientists rely on the cooperation of the companies for their research—they must, after all, gain access to the seeds for studies—most have chosen to remain anonymous for fear of reprisals.

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Gajanan Mohite
Scientific American article Part 1 , GM Crops
by Gajanan Mohite on Feb 24, 2010 09:44 AM

Advances in agricultural technology—including, but not limited to, the genetic modification of food crops—have made fields more productive than ever. Farmers grow more crops and feed more people using less land. They are able to use fewer pesticides and to reduce the amount of tilling that leads to erosion. And within the next two years, agritech com�panies plan to introduce advanced crops that are designed to survive heat waves and droughts, resilient characteristics that will become increasingly important in a world marked by a changing climate.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to verify that genetically modified crops perform as advertised. That is because agritech companies have given themselves veto power over the work of independent researchers.

To purchase genetically modified seeds, a customer must sign an agreement that limits what can be done with them. (If you have installed software recently, you will recognize the concept of the end-user agreement.) Agreements are considered necessary to protect a company’s intellectual property, and they justifiably preclude the replication of the genetic enhancements that make the seeds unique. But agritech companies such as Monsanto, Pioneer and Syngenta go further. For a decade their user agreements have explicitly forbidden the use of the seeds for any independent research. Under the threat of litigation, scientists cannot test a seed to explore the different conditions under which it thrives or fail

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swetambar
Scientific studies
by swetambar on Feb 24, 2010 08:11 AM

By denying the Bt technology are we not compromising on consuming the pesticides loaded brinjal? As such the technology was an invention of billions of investment and we are already having Bt cotton that has changed the face of pesticides consumption in India. The denial to Bt brinjal is a mistake that should reviewed

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M Parshuram
Test BT Brinjal on Sharad Pawar
by M Parshuram on Feb 24, 2010 08:06 AM

While the moratorium is on, BT Brinjal should be tested daily on agri minister Pawar. He should not be fed anything but BT Brinjal everyday. May his cancer increase to such extent that our country soon becomes free from this cancerous monster called Sharad Pawar.

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Periyasamy KS
is it a damage control Article?
by Periyasamy KS on Feb 24, 2010 07:53 AM

What Jairam Ramesh Deserve? Did he listen to the public and environmental activists no, they all made him to listen and the UPA ally itself made him to listen. He deserves nothing.

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ram kumar
Article is spot on
by ram kumar on Feb 24, 2010 02:52 AM  | Hide replies

Monsanto is a seriously crazy organisation. They have patents on the genes and hence any product they own, they have rights over it. They say as the seeds may mutate from generation to the next, you are infringing on our copy rights by using the seed from your own crops. As a result, any excess seeds you want to save to use for the next year is not possible. They enforce this by using armed thugs, blackmailing etc.

Infact no farmer in the US can reuse seeds from his own produce for the next season because of monsanto....which controls 98% of all seeds sold in the US.

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swetambar
Re: Article is spot on
by swetambar on Feb 24, 2010 08:15 AM
This is incomplete information; the seeds from the Bt or genetically modified plants definitely will have some characters but when they are not produced as hybrid seeds, the desired characters will change, this is scientifically called seggregation. Monsanto is an organization that is driven by research and innovation; let us welcome a new technology than speaking half truth

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krish
Re: Re: Article is spot on
by krish on Feb 25, 2010 04:07 PM
Well truth or half truth- every activity with a good for public tag-must conform to ethics. period. it is common knowledge that GM being a manipulation of natural gene structure to yield more, compromises on everyvalue civillisations have survived on. Americans suffer highest from large volume ingestion of carcinogenic GM stuff. To imagine a farmer has to go back to Monsanto to buy seeds every year is monopolism & blatant corporateisation of our fields. Lobbyists like pawar, who is cancer stricken himself- champion BT's case apear to have perverted logic - that everyone else also get stuck with Cancer. Do not see any other case in favor of GM..
The seedless grapes we eat- are they carcinogenic is my Query ? anyone with answers please..

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