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Can only GM crops ensure India's food security?


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Hebbar R
Can only GM crops ensure India's food security?
by Hebbar R on Dec 26, 2010 02:40 PM

If a proper investigation is done, surely a lot of skeletons will tumble out of powerful people of the Govt. It is unlikely that the MNC Seed Cos are doing business without the active involvement of these people to bulldoze any opposition.

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Sridhar Pinnamaneni
Few questions
by Sridhar Pinnamaneni on Dec 22, 2010 01:23 AM

I have some points regarding the GM crops

First did anybody think about the reason why most of the countries who started using GM crops banned some GM(GE) Seed Varieties totally

As per my understanding in GM crops they modify the basic structure of the seed to become immune to all the factors but is this modification 100% guranteed that its resistent because nature has it own way of finding the weakest link and in this case if it fails its next thing to calamity as these seeds last only for one planting season and they are not allowed to be stored under the copy rigt laws and using this law in US the corporations bleeding the farmers

Dependency on the Corporations and their practices

It is heard in countries like USA and Canada these coporations use strong arm tactics and make innocent farmers to use their seeds in the case of India they just have to bribe the politicians

You can search Google with following search word "monsanto harassment" which brings the question whether each farmer will be given choice of what to choose.

I would suggest watching the documentary "Food Inc." which shows the dangers of the current food situation in US from where majority of these corporations originate and their underhand tatics

There have been cases where farmers in India where farmers just dump their produce roadside as they did not the get the minimum guranteed price. Im not expert in this but my understanding is it

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Vijayan TA
food for all
by Vijayan TA on Dec 21, 2010 09:41 PM

we can have home garden in 150 sq ft and grow more food free.Our agri ministry are incapable of solving food &water needs.Sc is 2nd culprit.It kills farmers by not acting with common sense. It ruined TN cavery delta with 3000 year global rice delta to semi arid land. Sc has ruined by not using common sense in depleting all plains with water in Time!this UPA rides us to scams only 7 ruins India.

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Manas Sen
Food Security
by Manas Sen on Dec 21, 2010 09:38 PM  | Hide replies

If you want food security, you must have hybrids and GM seeds. Those who are opposed to it, want the country to go back to our great grand father's time. There will be starvation all around. This is a move by anti developmental and anti technology groups. We need another green revolution urgently if we have to feed the billion. No traditional farming can help that.

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Hebbar R
Re: Food Security
by Hebbar R on Dec 26, 2010 02:45 PM
Yes, it will also help the Pharma Cos and Doctors make a lot of money. All in all, MMS and his closest Economist Ahluwalia will be happy as ultimately the GDP will increase due to higher profits of Pharmas.

BTW, what is happening to Agriculture with Industries taking over fertile land?

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srinivas ganesh
Re: Food Security
by srinivas ganesh on Dec 22, 2010 07:03 AM
Dont just utter crap since you are allowed talk anything. If you are in US,go to any Wal-mart,buy hybrid brinjal, similarly go to any village in india,buy traditional brinjal, cook both and see the difference.

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Hebbar R
Re: Re: Food Security
by Hebbar R on Dec 26, 2010 02:50 PM
Totally agree with you. It is not just the taste. It is also the effect of what you eat. The long term effect can be known only in the long term. The traditional method of agriculture is truly "long term established". For ex. DDT was considered a wonder pesticide. But after usage of around 2 to 3 decades, it was realised that it is most harmful and has long term side effects (it is a different matter that it is available and is still being used in India). The Farmers in India were experts at growing multiple crops that could confuse the pests. They would grow side crops to attract pests away from main crops. But, all that seems to be lost now in favour of artificial pesticide. BTW, "pests" are still required for natural pollination.

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wizardo id
GM crop is a scam
by wizardo id on Dec 21, 2010 09:28 PM

monsanto is the big 800 pound gorilla which is bulldozing our indigenous farming. monsanto has to be stopped at all costs. they have been caught infiltrating the FDA in the USA. so they will do it very easily in india. bribing, nepotism is monsanto's first nature

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kieran dsouza
non issue
by kieran dsouza on Dec 21, 2010 09:11 PM

this silly debate is time and again raised by GM seeds/food proponents.

The variety of fruits available you cannot taste each one individually in your lifetime

Better to establish seed banks and maintain diversity - EXACTLY OPPOSITE what the GM advocates are trying to do

Humans should try to IMPROVE their eating habits which are very poor. Rather than depending on handful of grain, please include more and more fruit in your diet

Google FRUITARIANISM, 80/10/10 DIET, NATURAL HYGIENISTS, to know how gullible public is being manipulated into following a wrong diet

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mangesh mhatre
GM crop genes contain - - - --
by mangesh mhatre on Dec 21, 2010 03:26 PM  | Hide replies

Gm crop genes contain "Pesticides" to fight the crop diseases.
So in turn when we cosume them, we consume "pesticide" as well. This pesticide can not be "washed away" like in our usual method since it is in plant itself.

Now we must decide which type of crop is healthier for us? GM or Normal?

At least we must maintain that right with us & ask govt not to interfere in our birthright of choosing our food.

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Narakasur
Re: GM crop genes contain - - - --
by Narakasur on Dec 21, 2010 03:31 PM
Do you realize that the antibiotics which you consume also work the same way.
Average life expectancy at the start of 20th century was less than 25 years and now it is three times and it is due to such methods. So stop spreading fear if you dont know the details.

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mangesh mhatre
Re: Re: GM crop genes contain - - - --
by mangesh mhatre on Dec 21, 2010 05:01 PM
Insecticides are far different than Anntibiotics we consume.
Insecticides are NOT suitable for humans as well.
We consume antibiotics ONLY when we are ill, but with these GM food we will be consuming insecticides all the days.
Isn't it a difference between life & death?

So please stop pleading blindly for GM foods.

There is far grater danger of becoming TOTALLY dependant on a few multinational companies for seeds of food in future, since they only will be having seeds for food in future if their plan is implimented by us.

See to this fact with open eyes & then only support them.

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Narakasur
Re: Re: Re: GM crop genes contain - - - --
by Narakasur on Dec 21, 2010 05:36 PM
Why do you think big industries are the only ones which will benefit from GM foods.
You will still have the choice to do it the way you did it. When you have cold you have 2 options, follow what your granny said or take tablets made by mulitnationals. We all know which option most people prefer. Same applies to this.

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ravi ms
Re: Re: GM crop genes contain - - - --
by ravi ms on Dec 21, 2010 04:06 PM
Average life expectancy at the start of 20th century was less than 25 years, the same way before 13 or 14 th century it was 100 years.
Biologically if a Man is health he can live upto 125 years. Even Mahatma Gandhi use to say I will live for 125 years.
Stop consuming antibiotics, you consume antibiotics naturally with fruits, vegetables and organic grown food.

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Narakasur
Re: Re: Re: GM crop genes contain - - - --
by Narakasur on Dec 21, 2010 04:53 PM
Where did you get the figure that avg life expectency was more than 100 years in 13 th century. Even the emperors of those days didnt live more than 50 years.
Most antibiotics are made chemically and not from fruits. You look in nature for hints but are made in factories.

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pooja wadhwani
Re: Re: GM crop genes contain - - - --
by pooja wadhwani on Dec 21, 2010 05:21 PM
THIS IS REALLY FUNNY TO SEE HOW FOOLS HAVE THEIR OWN FOOLISH IDEA , IN GM FOOD IT IS
THE NATURAL ABILITY BY CHANGES IN GENE WHICH PROTOECTS A CROP FROM INSECTS ,LIKE OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM PROTECTS US FROM DISEASE,BUT AS PER YOU SOME PESITICIDE IS INGRAINED IN THE SEED ITSELF IS FUNNY

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wizardo id
Re: Re: Re: GM crop genes contain - - - --
by wizardo id on Dec 21, 2010 09:30 PM
he was crude. but monsanto's roundup ready is pretty much that. they have made genetic modifications whose effects arent known. roundup ready has been a resounding failure in many many cases. also the local species die off quickly, and our farmers will be their slaves quickly

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THIYAGARAJAN
Dear Sir
by THIYAGARAJAN on Dec 21, 2010 03:16 PM  | Hide replies

Dear Shard Pawarji,

I am small man, I don’t have capacity to give suggestion or give any advice to you sir , even though now a days , if I go to market I cannot buy any vegetables and any food grains happily because of the price hike, How the small man can buy the vegetables the KG are now a days starting from Rs.60/- per kg and even one Banana cost Rs. 3/- per banana . and other fruits also same price.

I am watching so many years in Mumbai near to the Railway Tracks so many people are cultivating (subji) - Vegetables in different near to the vast land of Railway staion track, if you start from Parle, Mutunga, Vikroli, Bhundup, Mulund and near Thane station and so many places central railway and western railway also in different , locations had seeing in Mumbai for so many years the those formers they were cultivating the Bhaji –(Vegetables) through gutter water , in this type of land our man producing the vegetable and if you can provide lot of vacant land all over India and with water facility , how many people are without job : what don’t you start : some agriculture development company : taking as a category as Former and Former assistant , even lot of ladies and house wife also they will come and do their job and in this type we can increase our production, if our production is more the price will come down automatically if you are in a position to provide water and there were lot of vacant land in all ov

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Frazer Keswani
Re: Dear Sir
by Frazer Keswani on Dec 21, 2010 09:28 PM
Sharad pawarji is DEAF when prices soar sky high, he then showers his grace to bring price down cloud high and speaks like a true dictator, when media & opposition questions him then he goes MUTE too.

Nothing can make him see the plight of common man.

Keep voting for him and suffer.

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Frazer Keswani
Re: Dear Sir
by Frazer Keswani on Dec 21, 2010 09:26 PM
Sharad pawarji is DEAF when prices soar sky high, he then showers his grace to bring price down cloud high and speaks like a true dictator, when media & opposition questions him then he goes MUTE too.

Nothing can make him see the plight of common man.

Keep voting for him and suffer.

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Frazer Keswani
Re: Dear Sir
by Frazer Keswani on Dec 21, 2010 09:27 PM
Sharad pawarji is DEAF when prices soar sky high, he then showers his grace to bring price down cloud high and speaks like a true dictator, when media & opposition questions him then he goes MUTE too.

Nothing can make him see the plight of common man.

Keep voting for him and suffer.

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THIYAGARAJAN
Dear Sir
by THIYAGARAJAN on Dec 21, 2010 03:15 PM  | Hide replies

Dear Shard Pawarji,

I am small man, I don’t have capacity to give suggestion or give any advice to you sir , even though now a days , if I go to market I cannot buy any vegetables and any food grains happily because of the price hike, How the small man can buy the vegetables the KG are now a days starting from Rs.60/- per kg and even one Banana cost Rs. 3/- per banana . and other fruits also same price.

I am watching so many years in Mumbai near to the Railway Tracks so many people are cultivating (subji) - Vegetables in different near to the vast land of Railway staion track, if you start from Parle, Mutunga, Vikroli, Bhundup, Mulund and near Thane station and so many places central railway and western railway also in different , locations had seeing in Mumbai for so many years the those formers they were cultivating the Bhaji –(Vegetables) through gutter water , in this type of land our man producing the vegetable and if you can provide lot of vacant land all over India and with water facility , how many people are without job : what don’t you start : some agriculture development company : taking as a category as Former and Former assistant , even lot of ladies and house wife also they will come and do their job and in this type we can increase our production, if our production is more the price will come down automatically if you are in a position to provide water and there were lot of vacant land in all ov

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